Re: Musicians Linux Operating Environment

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On Sep 24, 4:24 am, High Plains Thumper
<highplainsthum...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/dvd/jacklab
>
>
> Product Description
> Musicians have particular requirements for their Linux
> environment. A Linux-based distribution that is designed for
> music needs to be flexible, powerful, yet easy and quick to use.
> All of these things are essential in a busy, creative environment.
>
> Thinking about these requirements, the JackLab Audio Distribution
> (JAD), or JackLab for short, is based on openSUSE due to its
> stability and long development history. All major administrative
> tasks can be done graphically and easily without having to learn
> any complicated terminal commands.
>
>
> Seeing I like music (spent 15 years in the Army and Reserve Bands
> - tough job but someone has to do it), have done parties with my
> keyboard and 40 Watt guitar amp, think this may be worth trying
> for only a couple quid. :-)
>
> --
> HPT


Does it have anything like this:
http://www.steinberg.net/89_1.html

How about this:
http://www.synthogy.com/

Or this:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/product.asp?pid=431

How about this one:

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&

I didn't think so....
 
collie4roy@gmail.com wrote:

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collie4roy@gmail.com wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/dvd/jacklab
>>
>>
Product Description Musicians have particular requirements for
>> their Linux environment. A Linux-based distribution that is designed
>> for music needs to be flexible, powerful, yet easy and quick to use.
>> All of these things are essential in a busy, creative environment.
>>
>> Thinking about these requirements, the JackLab Audio Distribution
>> (JAD), or JackLab for short, is based on openSUSE due to its stability
>> and long development history. All major administrative tasks can be
>> done graphically and easily without having to learn any complicated
>> terminal commands.
>>
>> Seeing I like music (spent 15 years in the Army and Reserve Bands -
>> tough job but someone has to do it), have done parties with my
>> keyboard and 40 Watt guitar amp, think this may be worth trying for
>> only a couple quid. :-)

>
> Does it have anything like this: http://www.steinberg.net/89_1.html
>
> How about this: http://www.synthogy.com/
>
> Or this:
> http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/product.asp?pid=431
>
> How about this one:
>
> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&
>
> I didn't think so....


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb03/articles/linuxaudio.asp

Rosegarden is a MIDI + Audio sequencer which includes notation and audio
editing. Version 4 is probably the closest native equivalent to Cubase for
Linux, and has recently been released as a beta after two years of active
development. Unlike Windows and Mac OS where there is only one kind of
desktop for each system, Linux developers have a wide choice of graphical
toolkits to build applications from. Rosegarden is designed with the KDE
interface, but it will run on any Linux machine with the right libraries
installed. Rosegarden features include MIDI and audio playback and
recording using ALSA and JACK, real-time audio plug-in effects via LADSPA,
score, piano-roll and track overview editors, high-quality score printing
and MIDI file input/output.

Picture of Rosegarden on Linux:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb03/images/linuxrosegarden40.l.gif

[selective quotes]
AGNULA

The AGNULA project, the name of which is an acronym for A GNU/Linux Audio
Distribution, has been created to design and build aversion of Linux
specifically for professional musicians and recording engineers. AGNULA is
a consortium of several European universities, the Red Hat Linux company
and the Free Software Foundation. The idea is that all the software needed
for professional audio use will be on one set of CD-ROMs, which will
include a tuned Linux operating system. This doesn't mean that it just
comes with an extra driver or two and a few tweaked settings here and
there. While Windows and Mac OS will always remain general-purpose systems,
the open source philosophy means that Linux can be customised for
individual requirements at the most fundamental level.

Ardour is a multi-channel hard disk recorder and digital audio workstation,
capable of the simultaneous recording of 24 or more channels of 32-bit
audio at the 48kHz sample rate. Currently in heavy development, Ardour
visually resembles the UNIX software available on platforms such as SGI.
Linux machines running Ardour are intended to replace dedicated studio
hardware such as the Mackie HDR, the Tascam 2424 and ADAT systems. Ardour
is also intended to rival proprietary software applications such as Pro
Tools, Samplitude, Logic Audio, Nuendo and Cubase VST. It supports MIDI
Machine Control, and can therefore be used with any MMC-compliant digital
mixer.

Audacity is a deceptively simple audio editor and multitrack hard disk
recorder. It has a clean interface with large buttons in the style of a
tape machine, but very precise edits are possible by drawing envelopes
directly on the waveform using the mouse. Audacity breaks large audio files
into small chunks for its native file format, which makes multitrack
recording and editing quite feasible on modest hardware.
[/selective quotes]

--
HPT
 
High Plains Thumper <highplainsthumper@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:fdans7$qcf$1@news.albasani.net:

> collie4roy@gmail.com wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/dvd/jacklab
>>>
>>>
Product Description Musicians have particular requirements
>>> for their Linux environment. A Linux-based distribution that is
>>> designed for music needs to be flexible, powerful, yet easy and
>>> quick to use. All of these things are essential in a busy, creative
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Thinking about these requirements, the JackLab Audio Distribution
>>> (JAD), or JackLab for short, is based on openSUSE due to its
>>> stability and long development history. All major administrative
>>> tasks can be done graphically and easily without having to learn any
>>> complicated terminal commands.
>>>
>>> Seeing I like music (spent 15 years in the Army and Reserve Bands -
>>> tough job but someone has to do it), have done parties with my
>>> keyboard and 40 Watt guitar amp, think this may be worth trying for
>>> only a couple quid. :-)

>>
>> Does it have anything like this: http://www.steinberg.net/89_1.html
>>
>> How about this: http://www.synthogy.com/
>>
>> Or this:
>> http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/product.asp?pid=431
>>
>> How about this one:
>>
>> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&
>>
>> I didn't think so....

>
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb03/articles/linuxaudio.asp
>
>
> Rosegarden is a MIDI + Audio sequencer which includes notation and
> audio editing. Version 4 is probably the closest native equivalent to
> Cubase for Linux, and has recently been released as a beta after two
> years of active development. Unlike Windows and Mac OS where there is
> only one kind of desktop for each system, Linux developers have a wide
> choice of graphical toolkits to build applications from. Rosegarden is
> designed with the KDE interface, but it will run on any Linux machine
> with the right libraries installed. Rosegarden features include MIDI
> and audio playback and recording using ALSA and JACK, real-time audio
> plug-in effects via LADSPA, score, piano-roll and track overview
> editors, high-quality score printing and MIDI file input/output.
>
>
> Picture of Rosegarden on Linux:
>
> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb03/images/linuxrosegarden40.l.gif
>
> [selective quotes]
> AGNULA
>
> The AGNULA project, the name of which is an acronym for A GNU/Linux
> Audio Distribution, has been created to design and build aversion of
> Linux specifically for professional musicians and recording engineers.
> AGNULA is a consortium of several European universities, the Red Hat
> Linux company and the Free Software Foundation. The idea is that all
> the software needed for professional audio use will be on one set of
> CD-ROMs, which will include a tuned Linux operating system. This
> doesn't mean that it just comes with an extra driver or two and a few
> tweaked settings here and there. While Windows and Mac OS will always
> remain general-purpose systems, the open source philosophy means that
> Linux can be customised for individual requirements at the most
> fundamental level.
>
> Ardour is a multi-channel hard disk recorder and digital audio
> workstation, capable of the simultaneous recording of 24 or more
> channels of 32-bit audio at the 48kHz sample rate. Currently in heavy
> development, Ardour visually resembles the UNIX software available on
> platforms such as SGI. Linux machines running Ardour are intended to
> replace dedicated studio hardware such as the Mackie HDR, the Tascam
> 2424 and ADAT systems. Ardour is also intended to rival proprietary
> software applications such as Pro Tools, Samplitude, Logic Audio,
> Nuendo and Cubase VST. It supports MIDI Machine Control, and can
> therefore be used with any MMC-compliant digital mixer.
>
> Audacity is a deceptively simple audio editor and multitrack hard disk
> recorder. It has a clean interface with large buttons in the style of
> a tape machine, but very precise edits are possible by drawing
> envelopes directly on the waveform using the mouse. Audacity breaks
> large audio files into small chunks for its native file format, which
> makes multitrack recording and editing quite feasible on modest
> hardware. [/selective quotes]


1. Rosegarden is like Dr T.s on the Atari circa early 1990's.
Certainly functional, but not something a professional would want to
use considering the inexpensive tools availible in this decade.

2 Ardour has one of the most horrid interfaces ever invented. You have it
right when you say 'Ardour visually resembles the UNIX softer..etc"
That's too bad.
The program is clunky and difficult to use.

3 Audacity is a decent program which also has a Windows version.

So what about programs like Ivory?
Drums From Hell.
EzDrummer.
SoundSoap.
Hardware based solutions like Protools?
DSP hardware based solutions for effects?
And what about interfaces? Will my firewire interfaces and control
surfaces work with these Linux programs?

Face it, Linux is good for someone with zero cash flow to tinker with but
to compare it to even the most simplistic Windows and Mac programs is a
joke.

For example N-Track Studio is free/low cost and it works rather well.
So do the offerings from PPG.

Even the rntry level programs from Sonar and Cubase blow the stuff you've
mentioned away.

However for someone interested in creating music and tonal interludes
based on the calculations of pi to the zillionth decimal place, Linux
might be just the ticket.

Linux is a good solution for some things, making music isn't one of them.
 
On Sep 25, 11:21 pm, High Plains Thumper
<highplainsthum...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Singer wrote:
> > High Plains Thumper wrote:
> >> philicorda wrote:
> >>> Singer wrote:

>
> >>>> Linux is a good solution for some things, making music
> >>>> isn't one of them.

>
> >>> Have you tried any of the music software on Linux?

>
> >> Does User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 give any clue?

>
> > I'm impressed you can read a header. What does that have to do
> > with musicians and Linux? Oh I see, you couldn't address any
> > of my other points so you decided to look foolish. You've done
> > well!

>
> Hmmm .... voice sounds familiar, very trollish. Don't worry
> sweety, we'll figure you out.
>
> --
> HPT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


We?
What are you going to do?
Get the Linux mafia after him?

You really should stop attempting to advocate Linux High Plains
Thumper, or whatever your name is, because you are not too good at it.
People like you, and your butt buddy Roy Schestowitz, are one reason
why noobs get turned off to Linux.
I notice you have not been able to answer any direct questions posted
to your attention.
Once a fool, always a fool I suppose.
At least you are consistant.
 
linux4rox@gmail.com wrote:
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>> Singer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm impressed you can read a header. What does that have
>>> to do with musicians and Linux? Oh I see, you couldn't
>>> address any of my other points so you decided to look
>>> foolish. You've done well!

>>
>> Hmmm .... voice sounds familiar, very trollish. Don't worry
>> sweety, we'll figure you out.

>
> We? What are you going to do? Get the Linux mafia after him?
>
> You really should stop attempting to advocate Linux High
> Plains Thumper, or whatever your name is, because you are not
> too good at it. People like you, and your butt buddy Roy
> Schestowitz, are one reason why noobs get turned off to Linux.
> I notice you have not been able to answer any direct
> questions posted to your attention. Once a fool, always a fool
> I suppose. At least you are consistant.


Interesting, that you dropped off post to comp.os.linux.advocacy
hoping I won't see it and as a coward, posted this drivel
unfairly to the folks at rec.audio.pro.

The only thing consistent with you is you are a nym-shifting
comment spammer.

Oh, and I provided a reply. Care to touch it? Pssssst! Nay,
too hot for you, I guess.
 
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