Re: Internet Speed (Windoze and Linux knowledge)

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dennis@home wrote:

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> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>> dennis@home wrote:
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> 8<
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>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant.
>>> The crime is bypassing DRM which is a specific crime in many countries.
>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>
> Hi alias,
> playing at being thick again?

Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?

You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in which
countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply?
Hint: It is a tiny subset of "countries". And even there "fair use" applies.

Another hint: LinDVD exists

But then, you are just a typical Vista user. Dumber than that is impossible
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"PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message
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> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant.
>>>> The crime is bypassing DRM which is a specific crime in many countries.
>>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>>
>> Hi alias,
>> playing at being thick again?
>
> Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?
>
> You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in which
> countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply?
> Hint: It is a tiny subset of "countries".

> And even there "fair use" applies.

Fair use has nothing to do with bypassing DRM which if you had a brain you
would know.

> Another hint: LinDVD exists

You are an idiot.
Just because lindvd exists doesn't make it legal.
It uses the linux code to bypass the drm and so is illegal in many
countries.
Just most of the western world but as you say a subset.

Why don't you tell me of a package that is licensed to play DVDs and that is
legal to install on linux?

>
> But then, you are just a typical Vista user. Dumber than that is
> impossible

But then you are a typical idiot that the unfortunate linux community has to
thank for making them all look like idiots.
You do a good job M$ and Apple must be proud of you.
 
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dennis@home wrote:
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> "PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message
> news:fj0cch$n1n$00$2@news.t-online.com...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant.
>>>>> The crime is bypassing DRM which is a specific crime in many
>>>>> countries.
>>>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>>>
>>> Hi alias,
>>> playing at being thick again?
>>
>> Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?
>>
>> You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in which
>> countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply?
>> Hint: It is a tiny subset of "countries".
>
>> And even there "fair use" applies.
>
> Fair use has nothing to do with bypassing DRM which if you had a brain
> you would know.
>

No DRM has everything to do with bypassing fair
use. Fair use is legal.
Not all dvds have DRM on them so what is wrong
a=with playing them on Linux?
If DRM was the law which it ain't, why are many
large companies starting to move away from it.
The only thing you can get in trouble for is
breaking DRM for piracy concerns.
Most piracy is down with and/or for Windows not Linux.
caver1
 
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"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
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> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message
>> news:fj0cch$n1n$00$2@news.t-online.com...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 8<
>>>>
>>>>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant.
>>>>>> The crime is bypassing DRM which is a specific crime in many
>>>>>> countries.
>>>>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>>>>
>>>> Hi alias,
>>>> playing at being thick again?
>>>
>>> Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?
>>>
>>> You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in which
>>> countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply?
>>> Hint: It is a tiny subset of "countries".
>>
>>> And even there "fair use" applies.
>>
>> Fair use has nothing to do with bypassing DRM which if you had a brain
>> you would know.
>>
>
> No DRM has everything to do with bypassing fair use. Fair use is legal.

Bypassing DRM is illegal in many countries including the EU.
It has nothing to do with fair use.
The guy that broke DRM on DVDs was prosecuted BTW.


> Not all dvds have DRM on them so what is wrong a=with playing them on
> Linux?

Trying to change the issues again.
If you play a DVD without DRM then you aren't bypassing it are you? you
idiot.

> If DRM was the law which it ain't,

Who said DRM was the law?
It isn't compulsory but it is illegal to bypass it if its there in many
countries.

> why are many large companies starting to move away from it.

Ask them. Why do expect me to know?

> The only thing you can get in trouble for is breaking DRM for piracy
> concerns.

Do you want a bet?
You don't need to anything to DRM to pirate many things, you just copy the
DRM too.
You do need to bypass DRM to play a region code DVD.

> Most piracy is down with and/or for Windows not Linux.

Yet again a stupid linux user brings it down to a linux vs. windows issue
just to act as a smoke screen.
Nothing I have said has anything about DRM to do with windows.
Its just as well that most linux users actually have brains as you couldn't
run linux without someone to hold your hand.

> caver1
 
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:36:30 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
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>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message
>>> news:fj0cch$n1n$00$2@news.t-online.com...
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 8<
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant. The crime is bypassing
>>>>>>> DRM which is a specific crime in many countries.
>>>>>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi alias,
>>>>> playing at being thick again?
>>>>
>>>> Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?
>>>>
>>>> You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in
>>>> which countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply? Hint: It
>>>> is a tiny subset of "countries".
>>>
>>>> And even there "fair use" applies.
>>>
>>> Fair use has nothing to do with bypassing DRM which if you had a brain
>>> you would know.
>>>
>>>
>> No DRM has everything to do with bypassing fair use. Fair use is legal.
>
> Bypassing DRM is illegal in many countries including the EU. It has
> nothing to do with fair use.
> The guy that broke DRM on DVDs was prosecuted BTW.

And the SAME things are available, and necessary, for linux if one wishes
to watch DVDs region-free under windows.

http://www.dvdidle.com/dvd-region-free.htm

So really, the situation is no different under windows.

And really, if someone wants to prosecute me for WATCHING CONTENT I
BOUGHT AND PAID FOR...then please, go for it....what kind of sad world
are we living in these days?

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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:36:30 +0000, dennis@home wrote:
>
>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>> news:#JsPGObNIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "PeterKöhlmann" . wrote in message
>>>> news:fj0cch$n1n$00$2@news.t-online.com...
>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:fivfis$1vk$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>> 8<
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just because you own the DVD is irrelevant. The crime is bypassing
>>>>>>>> DRM which is a specific crime in many countries.
>>>>>>>> Live with it until you get the law changed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bypassing DRM to do what? You are not clear.
>>>>>> Hi alias,
>>>>>> playing at being thick again?
>>>>> Hi dennis, demonstrating being think again?
>>>>>
>>>>> You weren't clear at all. And, BTW, would you care to explain in
>>>>> which countries those idiotic DRM laws you mentioned apply? Hint: It
>>>>> is a tiny subset of "countries".
>>>>> And even there "fair use" applies.
>>>> Fair use has nothing to do with bypassing DRM which if you had a brain
>>>> you would know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No DRM has everything to do with bypassing fair use. Fair use is legal.
>> Bypassing DRM is illegal in many countries including the EU. It has
>> nothing to do with fair use.
>> The guy that broke DRM on DVDs was prosecuted BTW.
>
> And the SAME things are available, and necessary, for linux if one wishes
> to watch DVDs region-free under windows.
>
> http://www.dvdidle.com/dvd-region-free.htm
>
> So really, the situation is no different under windows.
>
> And really, if someone wants to prosecute me for WATCHING CONTENT I
> BOUGHT AND PAID FOR...then please, go for it....what kind of sad world
> are we living in these days?
>
If this article is factual, it is a very sad world indeed"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...ous-than-burglary-fraud-bank-robbery.html?bub
NBC/Universal general counsel Rick Cotton suggests that society wastes
entirely too much money policing crimes like burglary, fraud, and
bank-robbing when it should be doing something about piracy instead.
"Our law enforcement resources are seriously misaligned," Cotton said.
"If you add up all the various kinds of property crimes in this country,
everything from theft, to fraud, to burglary, bank-robbing, all of it,
it costs the country $16 billion a year. But intellectual property crime
runs to hundreds of billions [of dollars] a year."
But do read the whole article.
--
norm
 
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