Re: GIMP is terrible! Says Linux Geeks!

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I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie, I
find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could use
improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem to
take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it. However,
considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs, you would
think that they would be much better than they are. At least linux does
have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I would hate to
think that the open source programmers are thinking along those
particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for free".
 
"LittleGorm" <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in message
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>I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie, I
> find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could use
> improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem to
> take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it. However,
> considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs, you would
> think that they would be much better than they are. At least linux does
> have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I would hate to
> think that the open source programmers are thinking along those
> particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for free".

Radically changing the Photoshop interface (Office 2007 style) is not going
to go down well, with it being so widely used professionally. Still, it
does evolve, as shown in Photoshop 7 and Photoshop CS3 in particular. It
looks like CS4 is going to bring further changes, with tabbed documents,
like Fireworks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-twq85H0CU

ss.
 
LittleGorm <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in news:_d6dnT1-
U96eFArVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com:

> I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie, I
> find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could use
> improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem to
> take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it. However,
> considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs, you would
> think that they would be much better than they are. At least linux does
> have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I would hate to
> think that the open source programmers are thinking along those
> particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for free".

For what it's worth, there is/was a GIMP spinoff that was done strictly to
make the UI to look more like the Photoshop UI.....


www.gimpshop.com

(Never tried it/don't know how current it is.)
 
"LittleGorm" <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in message
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>I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie, I
> find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could use
> improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem to
> take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it. However,
> considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs, you would
> think that they would be much better than they are. At least linux does
> have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I would hate to
> think that the open source programmers are thinking along those
> particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for free".

GIMP has a steep learning curve... but once you're over it, it's a very nice
tool. I use it on Windows daily. You sometimes have to do a bit more work
for get an effect that is one click in Photoshop, but that's why there's a
£600 price difference!

Marc
 
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:25:23 +0000, DanS wrote:

> LittleGorm <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in news:_d6dnT1-
> U96eFArVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie,
>> I find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could
>> use improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem
>> to take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it.
>> However, considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs,
>> you would think that they would be much better than they are. At least
>> linux does have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I
>> would hate to think that the open source programmers are thinking along
>> those particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for
>> free".
>
> For what it's worth, there is/was a GIMP spinoff that was done strictly
> to make the UI to look more like the Photoshop UI.....
>
>
> www.gimpshop.com
>
> (Never tried it/don't know how current it is.)

Get Paintshop Pro... Or even better Fireworks.
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:05:50 GMT, Mr Spock <spock@warty.invalid> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:25:23 +0000, DanS wrote:

>> LittleGorm <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in news:_d6dnT1-
>> U96eFArVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie,
>>> I find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could
>>> use improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem
>>> to take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it.
>>> However, considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs,
>>> you would think that they would be much better than they are. At least
>>> linux does have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I
>>> would hate to think that the open source programmers are thinking along
>>> those particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for
>>> free".
>>
>> For what it's worth, there is/was a GIMP spinoff that was done strictly
>> to make the UI to look more like the Photoshop UI.....
>>
>>
>> www.gimpshop.com
>>
>> (Never tried it/don't know how current it is.)

>Get Paintshop Pro... Or even better Fireworks.

I don't find paintshop pro any easier to use. It is probably people who
are expert at the application who have so much trouble with gimp.
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:14 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote:


> I don't find paintshop pro any easier to use. It is probably people who
> are expert at the application who have so much trouble with gimp.

We are still waiting for those screen shots of your *millions* of temp
files...
--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:14 -0500, AZ Nomad
<aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:05:50 GMT, Mr Spock <spock@warty.invalid> wrote:
>>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:25:23 +0000, DanS wrote:
>
>>> LittleGorm <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in news:_d6dnT1-
>>> U96eFArVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie,
>>>> I find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could
>>>> use improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't seem
>>>> to take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it.
>>>> However, considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs,
>>>> you would think that they would be much better than they are. At least
>>>> linux does have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I
>>>> would hate to think that the open source programmers are thinking along
>>>> those particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for
>>>> free".
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, there is/was a GIMP spinoff that was done strictly
>>> to make the UI to look more like the Photoshop UI.....
>>>
>>>
>>> www.gimpshop.com
>>>
>>> (Never tried it/don't know how current it is.)
>
>>Get Paintshop Pro... Or even better Fireworks.
>
>I don't find paintshop pro any easier to use. It is probably people who
>are expert at the application who have so much trouble with gimp.

Yes, both Photoshop and GIMP suffer from not having the best or most
user friendly interface, but you need to look past that and focus on
what these applications can do. Like with any other complex
application the more you use it, the more comfortable you get with it.
For example Sony's Vegas which I use daily for many hours. Light years
beyond the crude,clumsy and toy like Microsoft Movie Maker, at first
the interface seems awkward and with dozens of filters each having
their own control settings, worrying about multiple tracks and over a
hundred adjustments you can apply frame by frame it seems overwhelming
and even more complex than Photoshop. That is until you get many
thousands of hours of using it under your belt, then you're amazed at
how intutative it really is. Ditto for GIMP, Photoshop or most any
well written application. The learning curve is steep, but the rewards
great.
 
"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:29:14 -0500, AZ Nomad
> <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:05:50 GMT, Mr Spock <spock@warty.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:25:23 +0000, DanS wrote:
>>
>>>> LittleGorm <littlegorm@thorsmill.com> wrote in news:_d6dnT1-
>>>> U96eFArVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> I hate to continue this discussion but take it from a graphics newbie,
>>>>> I find both Photoshop and Gimp interfaces not that great. Both could
>>>>> use improvements. There is some truth that Linux programmers don't
>>>>> seem
>>>>> to take usability criticism very well and just plain ignore it.
>>>>> However, considering how much Adobe and Microsoft spend on their UIs,
>>>>> you would think that they would be much better than they are. At least
>>>>> linux does have an excuse, it doesn't cost you anything however, I
>>>>> would hate to think that the open source programmers are thinking
>>>>> along
>>>>> those particular lines--"hey quite complaining, you are getting it for
>>>>> free".
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth, there is/was a GIMP spinoff that was done strictly
>>>> to make the UI to look more like the Photoshop UI.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> www.gimpshop.com
>>>>
>>>> (Never tried it/don't know how current it is.)
>>
>>>Get Paintshop Pro... Or even better Fireworks.
>>
>>I don't find paintshop pro any easier to use. It is probably people who
>>are expert at the application who have so much trouble with gimp.
>
> Yes, both Photoshop and GIMP suffer from not having the best or most
> user friendly interface, but you need to look past that and focus on
> what these applications can do. Like with any other complex
> application the more you use it, the more comfortable you get with it.
> For example Sony's Vegas which I use daily for many hours. Light years
> beyond the crude,clumsy and toy like Microsoft Movie Maker, at first
> the interface seems awkward and with dozens of filters each having
> their own control settings, worrying about multiple tracks and over a
> hundred adjustments you can apply frame by frame it seems overwhelming
> and even more complex than Photoshop. That is until you get many
> thousands of hours of using it under your belt, then you're amazed at
> how intutative it really is. Ditto for GIMP, Photoshop or most any
> well written application. The learning curve is steep, but the rewards
> great.

Get real. You can't use Sony Vegas for hours on end because you have
nothing to edit. Oh, maybe your encounters with Sheep. I almost forgot.
That would give you about 5 hours of footage each day. Just FYI
 
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