Program Permissions

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Davet102

I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.

1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
program needs your permission to continue"
I have to click "continue" so they will run.

2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)

How do I get the shields to go away?

How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?

Bob
 
systemsabuse.com - Don’t disable Vista UAC system-wide disable Vista UAC
per application:
http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01...-vista-uac-disable-vista-uac-per-application/

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Mark L. Ferguson

"Davet102" <Davet102@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@microsoft.com...
> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>
> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> program needs your permission to continue"
> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>
> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>
> How do I get the shields to go away?
>
> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>
> Bob
>
 
Can you please explain what this is and what it does??

I have gone to the site but do not understand.

Bob


"Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:

> systemsabuse.com - Don’t disable Vista UAC system-wide disable Vista UAC
> per application:
> http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01...-vista-uac-disable-vista-uac-per-application/
>
> --
> click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface.
> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales/help/help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post''
> Mark L. Ferguson
>
> "Davet102" <Davet102@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@microsoft.com...
> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
> >
> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> > program needs your permission to continue"
> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
> >
> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the "Firewall
> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
> >
> > How do I get the shields to go away?
> >
> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
> >
> > Bob
> >
 
Davet102734670 Wrote:
> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>
> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> program needs your permission to continue"
> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>
> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
> "Firewall
> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>
> How do I get the shields to go away?
>
> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>
> Bob

Hello Bob,
What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
Please read :

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WHAT IS USER ACCOUNT CONTROL?
In this article


- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)
- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)
- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)
- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)


User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
you for permission or an '_administrator_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
'_password_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's
operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see
a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the
action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to
start.
By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
'_malicious_software_(malware)_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
and '_spyware_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will
alert you with one of the following messages:
WINDOWS NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
[image:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to
ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.

A PROGRAM NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
[image:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...3d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It
has a valid '_digital_signature_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
you intended to run.

AN UNIDENTIFIED PROGRAM WANTS ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER
[image:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...eb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.

THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN BLOCKED
[image:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
This is a program that your '_administrator_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program
unblocked.

We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
'_standard_user_account_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use
a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
(mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
task.
To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
without your knowledge and permission.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )


--
t-4-2
 
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:40:24 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>Davet102734670 Wrote:
>> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>>
>> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
>> program needs your permission to continue"
>> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>>
>> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
>> "Firewall
>> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>>
>> How do I get the shields to go away?
>>
>> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>>
>> Bob

>Hello Bob,
>What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
>Please read :


It's kinda hard to read. This is what your post looks like in a real
newsreader:

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>WHAT IS USER ACCOUNT CONTROL?
>In this article
>
>
>- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)
>- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)
>- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)
>- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
>
>
>User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
>prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
>you for permission or an '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
>'_password_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
>before performing actions that could potentially affect your computer's
>operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you see
>a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the
>action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to
>start.
>By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
>'_malicious_software_(malware)_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
>and '_spyware_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
>from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
>When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC will
>alert you with one of the following messages:
>WINDOWS NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
>A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
>computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action to
>ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
>
>A PROGRAM NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...3d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
>A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start. It
>has a valid '_digital_signature_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
>indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
>program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
>you intended to run.
>
>AN UNIDENTIFIED PROGRAM WANTS ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...eb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
>An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
>signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
>claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
>legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
>caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
>trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
>
>THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN BLOCKED
>[image:
>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
>This is a program that your '_administrator_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
>has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
>program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the program
>unblocked.
>
>We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
>'_standard_user_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
>most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and use
>a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
>(mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
>When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
>new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
>don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
>you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
>task.
>To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
>for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
>standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
>administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
>without your knowledge and permission.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
>recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
>small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
>you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
>Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
>click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
>click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
>OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
 
Nonny734815 Wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:40:24 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >Davet102734670 Wrote:> > > > >
> > > >> I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get
> > > "A
> > > >> program needs your permission to continue"
> > > >> I have to click "continue" so they will run.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
> > > >> "Firewall
> > > >> Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
> > > >>
> > > >> How do I get the shields to go away?
> > > >>
> > > >> How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
> > > >>
> > > >> Bob> > > >
> > >Hello Bob,
> > >What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
> > >Please read : > >

>
> It's kinda hard to read. This is what your post looks like in a real
> newsreader:
> > > >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >WHAT IS USER ACCOUNT CONTROL?
> > >In this article
> > >
> > >
> > >- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> > >

> > (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)
> > >- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> > >

> > (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)
> > >- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> > >

> > (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)
> > >- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> > >

> > (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
> > >
> > >
> > >User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
> > >prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
> > >you for permission or an '_administrator_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
> > >'_password_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
> > >before performing actions that could potentially affect your

> > computer's
> > >operation or that change settings that affect other users. When you

> > see
> > >a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the name of the
> > >action or program that's about to start is one that you intended to
> > >start.
> > >By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
> > >'_malicious_software_(malware)_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
> > >and '_spyware_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
> > >from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
> > >When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC

> > will
> > >alert you with one of the following messages:
> > >WINDOWS NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
> > >[image:
> > >http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
> > >A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
> > >computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action

> > to
> > >ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
> > >
> > >A PROGRAM NEEDS YOUR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE
> > >[image:
> > >http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...3d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
> > >A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start.

> > It
> > >has a valid '_digital_signature_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
> > >indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
> > >program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
> > >you intended to run.
> > >
> > >AN UNIDENTIFIED PROGRAM WANTS ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER
> > >[image:
> > >http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...eb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
> > >An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
> > >signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
> > >claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
> > >legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
> > >caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
> > >trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
> > >
> > >THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN BLOCKED
> > >[image:
> > >http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]
> > >This is a program that your '_administrator_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
> > >has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
> > >program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the

> > program
> > >unblocked.
> > >
> > >We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
> > >'_standard_user_account_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
> > >most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and

> > use
> > >a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
> > >(mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
> > >When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
> > >new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
> > >don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
> > >you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
> > >task.
> > >To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
> > >for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
> > >standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
> > >administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
> > >without your knowledge and permission.
> > >
> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
> > >recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
> > >small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
> > >you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
> > >Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
> > >click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
> > >click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
> > >OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )
> > > >

Thank you for pointing this out. I'll try the link approach.


--
t-4-2
 
Hi,

Your programs are writing to protected system folders rather than using the
virtual ones in the your user account's appdata folder. This is what causes
the UAC prompts, as a user account under normal run time no longer has the
level of privilege necessary to write to protected folders without being
elevated. The process described there using the toolkit is simply a method
for bypassing the prompt on a per application basis.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Davet102" <Davet102@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:29C486BA-5BAD-44DA-A15E-A33D70C21938@microsoft.com...
> Can you please explain what this is and what it does??
>
> I have gone to the site but do not understand.
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Mark L. Ferguson" wrote:
>
>> systemsabuse.com - Donâ?Tt disable Vista UAC system-wide disable Vista
>> UAC
>> per application:
>> http://www.systemsabuse.com/2008/01...-vista-uac-disable-vista-uac-per-application/
>>
>> --
>> click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales/help/help_en-us.htm see ''rate a
>> post''
>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>
>> "Davet102" <Davet102@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7780A36B-1F9B-4306-9658-2C133F78AC64@microsoft.com...
>> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
>> >
>> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
>> > program needs your permission to continue"
>> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
>> >
>> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
>> > "Firewall
>> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
>> >
>> > How do I get the shields to go away?
>> >
>> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
 
t-4-2734738 Wrote:
> > Davet102734670 Wrote:
> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
> >
> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> > program needs your permission to continue"
> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
> >
> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
> > "Firewall
> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
> >
> > How do I get the shields to go away?
> >
> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
> >
> > Bob> >

> Hello Bob,
> What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
> Please read :
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *What is User Account Control?*
>
> In this article
>
> > > >

- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)

- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)

- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)

- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
> > >

> User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
> prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
> you for permission or an '_administrator_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
> '_password_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
> before performing actions that could potentially affect your
> computer's operation or that change settings that affect other users.
> When you see a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the
> name of the action or program that's about to start is one that you
> intended to start.
> By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
> '_malicious_software_(malware)_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
> and '_spyware_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
> from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
> When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC
> will alert you with one of the following messages:
> *Windows needs your permission to continue*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...5f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
> computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action
> to ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
>
> *A program needs your permission to continue*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...3d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...73d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start.
> It has a valid '_digital_signature_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
> indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
> program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
> you intended to run.
>
> *An unidentified program wants access to your computer*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...eb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...ceb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
> signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
> claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
> legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
> caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
> trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
>
> *This program has been blocked*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...0b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> This is a program that your '_administrator_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
> has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
> program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the
> program unblocked.
>
> We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
> '_standard_user_account_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
> most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and
> use a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
> When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
> new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
> don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
> you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
> task.
> To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
> for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
> standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
> administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
> without your knowledge and permission.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
> recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
> small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
> you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
> Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
> click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
> click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
> OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )


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t-4-2
 
t-4-2734738 Wrote:
> > Davet102734670 Wrote:
> > I have 2 situations here but I think they are related.
> >
> > 1. I have a couple programs that every time I go to start them I get "A
> > program needs your permission to continue"
> > I have to click "continue" so they will run.
> >
> > 2. i have several programs that on their desktop icons have the
> > "Firewall
> > Shield" on them. (shield divide into 4 colors)
> >
> > How do I get the shields to go away?
> >
> > How do I get the "need permission" message to stop coming up?
> >
> > Bob> >

> Hello Bob,
> What you had described was UAC (User Accounts Control ) in action.
> Please read :
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *What is User Account Control?*
>
> In this article
>
> > > >

- '_Windows_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_26)

- '_A_program_needs_your_permission_to_continue_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_36)

- '_An_unidentified_program_wants_access_to_your_computer_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_48)

- '_This_program_has_been_blocked_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=0eeb9ddd-ddaa-4cc5-a092-990830566547#CFECCDFIFCO_55)
> > >

> User Account Control (UAC) is a feature in Windows that can help
> prevent unauthorized changes to your computer. UAC does this by asking
> you for permission or an '_administrator_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)*
> '_password_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=45cf5840-fef0-4b98-9bba-f06e528bdb03#gtmt_password_def)
> before performing actions that could potentially affect your
> computer's operation or that change settings that affect other users.
> When you see a UAC message, read it carefully, and then make sure the
> name of the action or program that's about to start is one that you
> intended to start.
> By verifying these actions before they start, UAC can help prevent
> '_malicious_software_(malware)_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=85b8c3e6-28c4-464d-b883-7764d16f54a2#gtmt_malicious_software_def)
> and '_spyware_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=dcefd749-1ba5-4b2b-a476-be233702e7f4#gtmt_spyware_def)
> from installing or making changes to your computer without permission.
> When your permission or password is needed to complete a task, UAC
> will alert you with one of the following messages:
> *Windows needs your permission to continue*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...5f1cdbe9b&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> A Windows function or program that can affect other users of this
> computer needs your permission to start. Check the name of the action
> to ensure that it's a function or program you want to run.
>
> *A program needs your permission to continue*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...3d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...73d9b2885&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> A program that's not part of Windows needs your permission to start.
> It has a valid '_digital_signature_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=2082ca40-c3aa-44a0-9680-bbd8917430a9#gtmt_digital_signature1_def)
> indicating its name and its publisher, which helps to ensure that the
> program is what it claims to be. Make sure that this is a program that
> you intended to run.
>
> *An unidentified program wants access to your computer*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...eb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...ceb309443&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital
> signature from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it
> claims to be. This doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older,
> legitimate programs lack signatures. However, you should use extra
> caution and only allow this program to run if you obtained it from a
> trusted source, such as the original CD or a publisher's website.
>
> *This program has been blocked*
>
> '[image:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1]'
> (http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Be...0b3324a2e&documentSet=en-US&renderKey=SIGNED1)
> This is a program that your '_administrator_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=c6ed67cb-3054-4fd6-aba5-cecd436d290d#gtmt_administrator_def)
> has specifically blocked from running on your computer. To run this
> program, you must contact your administrator and ask to have the
> program unblocked.
>
> We recommend that you log on to your computer with a
> '_standard_user_account_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=e28d50d9-3f22-49fb-a18e-041c84508643#gtmt_standard_account_def)
> most of the time. You can surf the Internet, send e‑mail, and
> use a word processor, all without an '_administrator_account_'
> (mshelp://windows/?id=5da478b2-d29c-495d-8e64-94b922a43b32#gtmt_administrator_account_def).
> When you want to perform an administrative task, such as installing a
> new program or changing a setting that will affect other users, you
> don't have to switch to an administrator account. Windows will prompt
> you for permission or an administrator password before performing the
> task.
> To help protect your computer, you can create standard user accounts
> for all the users who share the computer. When someone who has a
> standard account tries to install software, Windows will ask for an
> administrator account's password so that software can't be installed
> without your knowledge and permission.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Unless you are an experienced long time computer user, it is not
> recommended to turn UAC off although it might be annoying at times. A
> small price to pay for security of your computer. Having said that, if
> you insist to turn it off, here is how :-
> Click Start button > right panel, click Control Panel > left panel,
> click Classic view > scroll to find User Accounts icon, right click >
> click Turn user accounts control on or off > UN-check the box > click
> OK. You're done.( Remember, you are doing it at the computer's risk. )


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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the link for a screenshot copy.

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--
t-4-2
 
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please click
>the link for a screenshot copy.
>
>'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>(http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)


Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.

You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":

Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.
 
Nonny wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please click
>> the link for a screenshot copy.
>>
>> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)

>
> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>
> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>
> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.
>
>



Wrong, you cannot see that on your own computer if you do not have
access to Vista, and people ARE interested in these matters whether they
have Vista or not. You are usually complaining that not enough
information is given.
 
Nonny734889 Wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please

> > click
> > >the link for a screenshot copy.
> > >
> > >'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
> > >('ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'

> > (http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)) > >

>
> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>
> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>
> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.

If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support, he/she
would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to you??


--
t-4-2
 
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:24:47 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>Nonny734889 Wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please
>> > click
>> > >the link for a screenshot copy.
>> > >
>> > >'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>> > >('ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>> > (http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)) > >

>>
>> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
>> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
>> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>>
>> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>>
>> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.

>
>If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support, he/she
>would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to you??


Simply tell them to search in Help and Support and be done with it.

Or are you getting some kind of perverse thrill playing with your
Snagit hammer?
 
Nonny735144 Wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:24:47 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > >Nonny734889 Wrote:> > > > >
> > > >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
> > > >> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
> > > >> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
> > > >>
> > > >> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
> > > >>
> > > >> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.> > > >
> > >
> > >If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support,

> > he/she
> > >would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to

> > you?? > >

>
> Simply tell them to search in Help and Support and be done with it.
>
> Or are you getting some kind of perverse thrill playing with your
> Snagit hammer?

I am a college professor for 20 years. I'd like to think that I know
how to teach better than you. You do it your way, I mine.


--
t-4-2
 
Nonny wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:24:47 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nonny734889 Wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> My apology for submitting such a poor copy of UAC article. Please
>>>> click
>>>>> the link for a screenshot copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>>>>> ('ImageGrotto: Free Image and Screenshot Hosting'
>>>> (http://imagegrotto.com/view-uac_screenshot13757.JPG)) > >
>>> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
>>> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
>>> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>>>
>>> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>>>
>>> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.

>> If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support, he/she
>> would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to you??

>
> Simply tell them to search in Help and Support and be done with it.
>
> Or are you getting some kind of perverse thrill playing with your
> Snagit hammer?



Idiot
 
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:01:36 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
wrote:

>
>Nonny735144 Wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:24:47 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >Nonny734889 Wrote:> > > > >
>> > > >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
>> > > >> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you to
>> > > >> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.> > > >
>> > >
>> > >If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support,
>> > he/she
>> > >would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to
>> > you?? > >

>>
>> Simply tell them to search in Help and Support and be done with it.
>>
>> Or are you getting some kind of perverse thrill playing with your
>> Snagit hammer?

>
>I am a college professor for 20 years. I'd like to think that I know
>how to teach better than you. You do it your way, I mine.


Then you're familiar with the Rule of the Hammer.

Being a college professor doesn't make you an expert at teaching
anything other than those college courses that you are qualified to
teach.

I've been using Usenet for almost as long as you've been a college
professor and have yet to find Usenet users clamoring for graphics
when they ask a question.
 
"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lfha44h9m2vdsk5i3i9a0unk9c8jtdq3qk@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:01:36 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@unknown-email.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Nonny735144 Wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:24:47 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Nonny734889 Wrote:> > > > >
>>> > > >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:19:37 -0500, t-4-2 <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
>>> > > >> wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Fer crissakes. What a waste of time. Anyone can see that on their
>>> > > >> own computer by accessing Help and Support. They don't need you
>>> > > >> to
>>> > > >> make a screen shot and then post a URL where you uploaded it to.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> You've reminded me of "The Rule of the Hammer":
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Give a child a hammer and suddenly everything needs hammering.> >
>>> > > >> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >If a person knew how to find the answer from Help & Support,
>>> > he/she
>>> > >would not have posted the question. Is that too complicated to
>>> > you?? > >
>>>
>>> Simply tell them to search in Help and Support and be done with it.
>>>
>>> Or are you getting some kind of perverse thrill playing with your
>>> Snagit hammer?

>>
>>I am a college professor for 20 years. I'd like to think that I know
>>how to teach better than you. You do it your way, I mine.

>
> Then you're familiar with the Rule of the Hammer.
>
> Being a college professor doesn't make you an expert at teaching
> anything other than those college courses that you are qualified to
> teach.
>
> I've been using Usenet for almost as long as you've been a college
> professor and have yet to find Usenet users clamoring for graphics
> when they ask a question.
>
>
>


"Being a college professor doesn't make you an expert at teaching anything
other than ---"
When I was in high school, I had a chemistry teacher straight out of MIT
with a master degree in bio chemistry. Nobody understood what he was saying,
because he didn't know how to teach us. He was let go real quick.
My point is : being a qualified expert in any subject does not make one a
qualified teacher of that subject. Knowledge does not make a teacher.
Knowing the technique of teaching does. The principles of how to teach are
universal, regardles of subject matter. 20 years of teaching should qualify
me as being a good teacher, I hope. At least my tenure has been secured.
As to users not "clamoring for graphics" is debatable. They probably feel
lucky that they are getting answers and help for free. Would they want to
rock the boat and ask for graphics for better illustrations ? I doubt that.
Furthermore, what has been "ok" for last 10-17 years means just that ---
last 10-17 years. Improvement should be an on-going process. Our Big 3 auto
makers provide a perfect example. Resting on their laurels find themselves
looking at the backside of Japan and Korea.
I am straying away from the real purpose of this forum. I must stop and
terminate this subject matter.
 
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