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Moshe Goldfarb
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:23:54 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:50:46 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
>>
>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:26:03 -0400, Jeff Glatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You seem to be suggesting that folks are hyping Ubuntu because of "money and
>>>>> connections". (I can't buy into the organization angle though. Frankly, I think
>>>>> that Ubuntu's infrastructure is awful. Their forums are filled with
>>>>> misinformation and inaccuracies. The moderators are pretty much clueless,
>>>>> incompetent fanbois who don't even follow their own "guidelines". There's a
>>>>> real disconnect between the devs and the endusers. Ubuntu is a mess when it
>>>>> comes to infrastructure).
>>>> No, you've got it wrong.
>>>> What I am saying is that Shuttleworth's money, connections, influence has
>>>> HELPED Ubuntu get on the radar map.
>>>> Not that he is doing it for the money.
>>> And, probably, Linus' father used all his wealth and influence to give
>>> his son's toy OS a good start?
>>
>> No.
>> His father's wealth gave him a good education and the opportunity to
>> succeed.
>> Which he did.
>
> Have you ever looked up what Linus' father's profession and status was?
> Whether he was "wealthy" at all? Quite a lot of countries here in Europe
> offer *everyone* the opportunity for a good education by giving the
> not-so-well-off grants. So even the child of a garbage collector could
> go to university.
>
> Wikipedia claims that his father had been a communist who, usually, are
> all but wealthy, if they do not belong to the ruling class, which is
> unlikely in Finland.
>
>>> Personally, I didn't even know the "astronaut" Mark Shuttleworth was
>>> behind the Distribution that I installed on my notebook.
>>
>> Most of you Ubuntu fanbois seem rather ignorant.
>
> Ah, resorting to insults, are you?
>
> You may interpret this as ignorance, I interpret it as choosing
> Ubuntu/Linux for its value rather than who stands behind it.
>
> Most Linux users use Linux and OSS because of its value and sometimes
> against pressure from outside to use another OS and toolset.
So Linux users are cheap.
What else is new.
Remember, you get what you *don't* pay for.
--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:50:46 +0200, Josef Moellers wrote:
>>
>>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:26:03 -0400, Jeff Glatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You seem to be suggesting that folks are hyping Ubuntu because of "money and
>>>>> connections". (I can't buy into the organization angle though. Frankly, I think
>>>>> that Ubuntu's infrastructure is awful. Their forums are filled with
>>>>> misinformation and inaccuracies. The moderators are pretty much clueless,
>>>>> incompetent fanbois who don't even follow their own "guidelines". There's a
>>>>> real disconnect between the devs and the endusers. Ubuntu is a mess when it
>>>>> comes to infrastructure).
>>>> No, you've got it wrong.
>>>> What I am saying is that Shuttleworth's money, connections, influence has
>>>> HELPED Ubuntu get on the radar map.
>>>> Not that he is doing it for the money.
>>> And, probably, Linus' father used all his wealth and influence to give
>>> his son's toy OS a good start?
>>
>> No.
>> His father's wealth gave him a good education and the opportunity to
>> succeed.
>> Which he did.
>
> Have you ever looked up what Linus' father's profession and status was?
> Whether he was "wealthy" at all? Quite a lot of countries here in Europe
> offer *everyone* the opportunity for a good education by giving the
> not-so-well-off grants. So even the child of a garbage collector could
> go to university.
>
> Wikipedia claims that his father had been a communist who, usually, are
> all but wealthy, if they do not belong to the ruling class, which is
> unlikely in Finland.
>
>>> Personally, I didn't even know the "astronaut" Mark Shuttleworth was
>>> behind the Distribution that I installed on my notebook.
>>
>> Most of you Ubuntu fanbois seem rather ignorant.
>
> Ah, resorting to insults, are you?
>
> You may interpret this as ignorance, I interpret it as choosing
> Ubuntu/Linux for its value rather than who stands behind it.
>
> Most Linux users use Linux and OSS because of its value and sometimes
> against pressure from outside to use another OS and toolset.
So Linux users are cheap.
What else is new.
Remember, you get what you *don't* pay for.
--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/