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GRITSandSLUTS

If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you are
willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft Office
(Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync? Is that
something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have it appear in all
3 email programs or will I have to type them in individually into each?
$1200 is a 'big' investment for me, on a 'set' income. Tired of getting
'into' something ONLY to find it is a 'sales pitch'. I should NOT have to
'buy' additional programs to make VISTA run...that is something that
Microsoft should provide somehow! I'm sure all these 'programs' you 'need to
buy' are Microsoft related. Bill Gates doesn't understand that NOT everybody
is as 'brilliant' as he...biggest mistake though was 'unleashing' VISTA
without more 'kinks' worked out...but $$$ is $$$ and $$$ is "His GOD" - NOT
mine!
--
God Bless!
LMA
 
Seeing as you don't have any money, get a grant or a student loan to go to
school and learn about computers so you actually have a clue as to what the
hell you're talking about.

"GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
news:E0327B52-5B46-4178-A0AA-53A2756540BF@microsoft.com...
> If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you
> are
> willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft Office
> (Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync? Is that
> something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have it appear in
> all
> 3 email programs or will I have to type them in individually into each?
> $1200 is a 'big' investment for me, on a 'set' income. Tired of getting
> 'into' something ONLY to find it is a 'sales pitch'. I should NOT have to
> 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA run...that is something that
> Microsoft should provide somehow! I'm sure all these 'programs' you 'need
> to
> buy' are Microsoft related. Bill Gates doesn't understand that NOT
> everybody
> is as 'brilliant' as he...biggest mistake though was 'unleashing' VISTA
> without more 'kinks' worked out...but $$$ is $$$ and $$$ is "His GOD" -
> NOT
> mine!
> --
> God Bless!
> LMA
 
"GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote:

<snip>
> Sync? Is that something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have
> it appear in all 3 email programs or will I have to type them in
> individually
> into each?


Different email programs have contact modules of their own. I am afraid you
have to update each program yourself, but of course there are import and
export functionality in such programs to help you.

Import, export, or change the format for contacts:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/65fbffa9-0ba5-45d8-a60f-ded4e86f01de1033.mspx

Depending on what program you would like to import to/export from, search
the programs Help & Support, or visit it's support pages on the web. I do
not know what programs you intend to use, but here are two popular ones:

Outlook help:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/FX100647191033.aspx
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/FX100647201033.aspx
Thunderbird help:
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/

<snip>
> I should NOT have to 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA
> run...that is something that Microsoft should provide somehow!

<snip>

Windows is an operating system that will "run" perfectly well out of the
box. Although it includes a lot of media viewing and editing components,
simple word processing software and so on, it is not an office suite,
developer environement or so. You will have to obtain these programs in
addition to the OS, but many can be downloaded for free. Below are just a
few examples.

Mozilla software:
http://www.mozilla.org/
OpenOffice suite:
http://www.openoffice.org/
Visual Studio Express developer software:
http://www.microsoft.com/express/

Charlie42
 
Thanks...I have 're-typed' all of them into each program. I attempted to
find the Import/Export - but was a little 'too involved' for me to try @ this
moment. I have 'found them in Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 and in
"IncrediMail" it's not as important to me, just thought it would be 'time
saving'. Thanks for your 'honesty' and especially for your 'politeness'.
Unfortunately, I have found that 'some' people who 'post' are rude as they
'expect' everybody to NOT be a novice. But all of us are (at some point in
our lives).
--
God Bless!
LMA


"Charlie42" wrote:

> "GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Sync? Is that something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have
> > it appear in all 3 email programs or will I have to type them in
> > individually
> > into each?

>
> Different email programs have contact modules of their own. I am afraid you
> have to update each program yourself, but of course there are import and
> export functionality in such programs to help you.
>
> Import, export, or change the format for contacts:
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/65fbffa9-0ba5-45d8-a60f-ded4e86f01de1033.mspx
>
> Depending on what program you would like to import to/export from, search
> the programs Help & Support, or visit it's support pages on the web. I do
> not know what programs you intend to use, but here are two popular ones:
>
> Outlook help:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/FX100647191033.aspx
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/FX100647201033.aspx
> Thunderbird help:
> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
>
> <snip>
> > I should NOT have to 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA
> > run...that is something that Microsoft should provide somehow!

> <snip>
>
> Windows is an operating system that will "run" perfectly well out of the
> box. Although it includes a lot of media viewing and editing components,
> simple word processing software and so on, it is not an office suite,
> developer environement or so. You will have to obtain these programs in
> addition to the OS, but many can be downloaded for free. Below are just a
> few examples.
>
> Mozilla software:
> http://www.mozilla.org/
> OpenOffice suite:
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> Visual Studio Express developer software:
> http://www.microsoft.com/express/
>
> Charlie42
>
>
 
Dear Rachel,

It is 'so refreshing' to find someone who has NEVER been a 'novice'. If I
get a 'grant' or a 'student loan' it will be to take 'art' NOT computer. If
I don't know 'what the HELL I'm doing...it is because I chose NOT to 'stand
in Hell' ... What's YOUR problem? Being 'a rude smartA**' has never gotten
people far in life and I will tell you the same thing I told the LAST person
whose 'comment' was unwarranted...don't like MY response to a 'short, curt
remark' REPORT ME! I have this program on my computer to try to find 'help'.
You aren't willing to make suggestions kindly...don't open my email up! You
have my Display Name...write it down so you can 'remember' it!
--
God Bless!
LMA


"Rachel" wrote:

> Seeing as you don't have any money, get a grant or a student loan to go to
> school and learn about computers so you actually have a clue as to what the
> hell you're talking about.
>
> "GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
> news:E0327B52-5B46-4178-A0AA-53A2756540BF@microsoft.com...
> > If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you
> > are
> > willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft Office
> > (Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync? Is that
> > something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have it appear in
> > all
> > 3 email programs or will I have to type them in individually into each?
> > $1200 is a 'big' investment for me, on a 'set' income. Tired of getting
> > 'into' something ONLY to find it is a 'sales pitch'. I should NOT have to
> > 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA run...that is something that
> > Microsoft should provide somehow! I'm sure all these 'programs' you 'need
> > to
> > buy' are Microsoft related. Bill Gates doesn't understand that NOT
> > everybody
> > is as 'brilliant' as he...biggest mistake though was 'unleashing' VISTA
> > without more 'kinks' worked out...but $$$ is $$$ and $$$ is "His GOD" -
> > NOT
> > mine!
> > --
> > God Bless!
> > LMA

>
>
>
 
"GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I have found that 'some' people who 'post' are rude as they
> > 'expect' everybody to NOT be a novice. But all of us are (at some

> point
> in our lives).


Sorry to say, the tone can become a bit harsh on the Usenet (newsgroups). I
hope it does not scare you away, as these groups can be a great source of
help.

Charlie42
 
:sarc:Though Rachel's reply was curt ,she's not entirely wrong. There is
so much to learn as a "novice" it would serve you well to have a more
hands on approach than a forum. Trial and error just doesn't work well
when you don't have any idea of what you're doing.Computers are an "ART"
FYI, and incredibly complex. Without any training you are sure to
destroy your investment.( AKA, fry your computer whilst downloading
apps. like ,"incredimail"?!, )And, to begin with Vista as your OS? ...If
you are just learning the term sync, start simple...Vista is still
experiencing the need for major tweaks which you'd never understand at
this point and shouldn't be expected to. You have to start somewhere
yes, but you don't attend high school at 6 yrs old. Give yourself a
break. I agree forums are great and people should be kind but don't
waste your own time.I mean, you were given basic instruction in answer
to your question and you didn't get it. Get someone to teach you,read
....If you don't want to learn ,don't. Up to you...PS , Good luck!


--
rturnier
 
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:31:00 -0700, GRITSandSLUTS wrote:

> If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you
> are willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft
> Office (Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync? Is
> that something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have it
> appear in all 3 email programs or will I have to type them in
> individually into each? $1200 is a 'big' investment for me, on a 'set'
> income. Tired of getting 'into' something ONLY to find it is a 'sales
> pitch'. I should NOT have to 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA
> run...that is something that Microsoft should provide somehow! I'm sure
> all these 'programs' you 'need to buy' are Microsoft related. Bill
> Gates doesn't understand that NOT everybody is as 'brilliant' as
> he...biggest mistake though was 'unleashing' VISTA without more 'kinks'
> worked out...but $$$ is $$$ and $$$ is "His GOD" - NOT mine!


One of the advantages with Linux is that everything you'll routinely need
is included 'out of the box'. Many other applications are freely available
with a simple click on the package installer.
 
In article <60ef68e80bcdd060d81e402fae7cff91@nntp-gateway.com>,
rturnier <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
>
>Computers are an "ART"


Oh, horseshit. They're machines, and simple ones at that.

>fry your computer whilst downloading apps.


Oh, ha ha. Fry your computer while downloading... Like,
maybe if lightening hits the phone line while you're dialed up to
AOL?
 
On Jun 8, 9:24 am, rturnier <gu...@unknown-email.com> wrote:
> :sarc:Though Rachel's reply was curt ,she's not entirely wrong. There is
> so much to learn as a "novice" it would serve you well to have a more
> hands on approach than a forum. Trial and error just doesn't work well
> when you don't have any idea of what you're doing.Computers are an "ART"
> FYI, and incredibly complex. Without any training you are sure to
> destroy your investment.( AKA, fry your computer whilst downloading
> apps. like ,"incredimail"?!, )And, to begin with Vista as your OS? ...If
> you are just learning the term sync, start simple...Vista is still
> experiencing the need for major tweaks which you'd never understand at
> this point and shouldn't be expected to. You have to start somewhere
> yes, but you don't attend high school at 6 yrs old. Give yourself a
> break. I agree forums are great and people should be kind but don't
> waste your own time.I mean, you were given basic instruction in answer
> to your question and you didn't get it. Get someone to teach you,read
> ....If you don't want to learn ,don't. Up to you...PS , Good luck!
>
> --
> rturnier


I thought the tone of the OP came off as a bit begging-to-be-flamed.
I'm not surprised that the exchange has resulted in unnecessary
postings, including this one.

Hats off to Charlie42 for keeping it real.
 
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 03:31:00 -0700, GRITSandSLUTS
<gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote:

>If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you are
>willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft Office
>(Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync?


I'm not familiar with the latest version of Office to hazard a guess
how "Sync" is integrated into that program. You might have better luck
getting some help asking in one of the groups dedicated to Office. The
principle one is:

microsoft.public.office

As far as rudeness you experienced, sadly some here are overly zealous
and defensive of Microsoft. We call such odd creatures 'fanboys' since
they for reasons not yet known to modern science have undying devotion
to Microsoft and often will respond like attack dogs if you don't
bring your prayer rug and worship Microsoft like they do. It's just a
game for them so don't take it personally. My game is to make such
losers look like the idiots they are. Since they do most of the work,
its rather easy.
 
Adam Albright wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 03:31:00 -0700, GRITSandSLUTS
> <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote:
>
>
>>If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you are
>>willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft Office
>>(Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync?

>
>
> I'm not familiar with the latest version of Office to hazard a guess
> how "Sync" is integrated into that program. You might have better luck
> getting some help asking in one of the groups dedicated to Office. The
> principle one is:
>
> microsoft.public.office
>
> As far as rudeness you experienced, sadly some here are overly zealous
> and defensive of Microsoft. We call such odd creatures 'fanboys' since
> they for reasons not yet known to modern science have undying devotion
> to Microsoft and often will respond like attack dogs if you don't
> bring your prayer rug and worship Microsoft like they do. It's just a
> game for them so don't take it personally. My game is to make such
> losers look like the idiots they are. Since they do most of the work,
> its rather easy.
>

By PowerUser:
"Licentious. Obnoxious. Anti-democratic. In case you can't tell, I'm
making a direct reference to Mr. Adam Albright. Before I launch into my
main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal-clear: (1) Failure to
recognize this salient point will result in Adam's getting free reign to
enshrine irrational fears and fancies as truth, and (2) as a result of
that, my observations are perhaps unique. Now that you know where I
stand on those issues, I can safely say that wily cutthroats like Adam
are not born -- they are excreted. However unsavory that metaphor may
be, Adam acts as if he were King of the World. This hauteur is
astonishing, staggering, and mind-boggling. He truly believes that he
defends the real needs of the working class. It is just such
counter-productive megalomania, muddleheaded egoism, and intellectual
aberrancy that stirs Adam to carve out space in the mainstream for
ungrateful politics.

I want to draw two important conclusions from this. The first is that
Adam and his gofers are wolves in sheep's clothing who will create
profound emotional distress for people on both sides of the issue
eventually, and the second is that the justification he gave for seeking
to judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of
their character was one of the most addlepated justifications I've ever
heard. It was so addlepated, in fact, that I will not repeat it here.
Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite
clearly: Adam keeps telling everyone within earshot that honesty and
responsibility have no cash value and are therefore worthless. I'm
guessing that Adam read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More
reliable sources generally indicate that he isn't as smart as he thinks
he is. As an interesting experiment, try to point this out to
Adam. (You might want to don safety equipment first.) I think you'll
find that if he had even a shred of intellectual integrity, he'd admit
that he has no evidence or examples to back up his point. Still, I
recommend you check out some of his commentaries and draw your own
conclusions on the matter. Adam teaches workshops on clericalism.
Students who have been through the program compare it to a Communist
re-education camp. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to
repeat it. Of course, if Adam had learned anything from history, he'd
know that I challenge him to point out any text in this letter that
proposes that we ought to worship feckless mountebanks as folk heroes.
It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing.


We no longer have the luxury of indulging in universalist, altruistic
principles that, no matter how noble they may appear, have enabled the
most self-satisfied spouters I've ever seen to compose paeans to
irrationalism. Didn't Adam tell his comrades that he wants to make
people suspicious of those who speak the truth? Did he first give any
thought to what would happen if he did? Of course, that question is
ridiculous -- as ridiculous as his gormless platitudes. None but the
grotesque can deny that he says that the sun rises just for him. What he
means by this, of course, is that he wants free reign to threaten the
existence of human life, perhaps all life on the planet. I understand
that I become truly impatient with people who refuse to recognize the
key role that he is playing in the destruction of our civilization, but
from the fog and mist of his disquisitions rises the leering grimace of
nihilism. An equal but opposite observation is that I and Adam part
company when it comes to the issue of quislingism. He feels that
those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness,
should be shunned, should starve, while I suspect that he needs to stop
living in a fool's paradise. But there's the rub his idea of mutinous
autism is no political belief. It is a fierce and burning gospel of
hatred and intolerance, of murder and destruction, and the unloosing of
an irascible blood-lust. It is, in every sense, a doctrinaire and pagan
religion that incites its worshipers to an infernal frenzy and then
prompts them to precipitate riots.


Adam does not merely undermine the current world order. He does so
consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. His undertakings
were never about tolerance and equality. That was just window dressing
for the "innocents". Rather, someone has been giving Adam's brain a very
thorough washing, and now Adam is trying to do the same to us. Several
things he has said have brought me to the boiling point. The statement
of his that made the strongest impression on me, however, was something
to the effect of how he is a refined gentleman with the soundest
education and morals you can imagine. Forgive me for boring you with all
the gory details, but Adam's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least
discerning among us can see right through it.


It's easy to tell if Adam's lying. If his lips are moving, he's lying.
Although Adam demonstrates a great deal of ignorance and presumption
when he says that he commands an army of robots that live in the hollow
center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like
shaking things up a bit on the surface, the fact remains that in order
to convince us that he has the authority to issue licenses for
practicing heathenism, Adam often turns to the old propagandist trick of
comparing results brought about by entirely dissimilar causes. Now that
you've read the bulk of this letter, it should not come as a complete
surprise that there can be no argument that when I first realized that
Mr. Adam Albright is a proponent of "paternalism" -- a term Adam uses
catachrestically in place of "Pyrrhonism" -- a cold shudder ran down my
back. However, this fact bears repeating again and again, until the
words crack through the hardened exteriors of those who would violate
the basic tenets of journalism and scholarship. I am referring, of
course, to the likes of Adam Albright."

Want to read more about this failed drunken accountant and big mouth
lying pig?
For your reading pleasure!

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=tYag3woAAABrYFiZuwWGCKzw8oMmJKS7

Enjoy!
I know I did!...LOL!
Frank
 
I understand (that was my first post).
Looks like I was the one who needed a lesson...
Thanks Charlie


--
rturnier
 
My goodness, aren't you nice.

C.B.


--
It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
and unfortunate among us.

"Rachel" <petlamb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uz4a#ZVyIHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Seeing as you don't have any money, get a grant or a student loan to go to
> school and learn about computers so you actually have a clue as to what
> the hell you're talking about.
>
> "GRITSandSLUTS" <gritsandsluts@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in
> message news:E0327B52-5B46-4178-A0AA-53A2756540BF@microsoft.com...
>> If you are a computer savvy person w/no patience...log off now! If you
>> are
>> willing to help...post! I have a computer Inspiron 531 w/Microsoft
>> Office
>> (Business) VISTA trying to learn, but all on my own. Sync? Is that
>> something that would allow me to enter a 'contact' and have it appear in
>> all
>> 3 email programs or will I have to type them in individually into each?
>> $1200 is a 'big' investment for me, on a 'set' income. Tired of getting
>> 'into' something ONLY to find it is a 'sales pitch'. I should NOT have
>> to
>> 'buy' additional programs to make VISTA run...that is something that
>> Microsoft should provide somehow! I'm sure all these 'programs' you
>> 'need to
>> buy' are Microsoft related. Bill Gates doesn't understand that NOT
>> everybody
>> is as 'brilliant' as he...biggest mistake though was 'unleashing' VISTA
>> without more 'kinks' worked out...but $$$ is $$$ and $$$ is "His GOD" -
>> NOT
>> mine!
>> --
>> God Bless!
>> LMA

>
>
 
Hi

We have all be begineers and have asked for help before, most and if not all
email programs include import/export functions, I am a bit confused why you
need to use multiple email clients personally I would choose one and stick
to that, with Outlook and IncredMail you can have multiple accounts with
different settings.

Mike
"rturnier" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:569fb6de705a708dfe709ba994d5b2c8@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> I understand (that was my first post).
> Looks like I was the one who needed a lesson...
> Thanks Charlie
>
>
> --
> rturnier
 

>
> One of the advantages with Linux is that everything you'll routinely
> need
> is included 'out of the box'. Many other applications are freely
> available
> with a simple click on the package installer.


The post is about Vista not a second rate minor system.which a novice
would soon give up on.


--
wysiwyg
 
wysiwyg wrote:
>>
>> One of the advantages with Linux is that everything you'll routinely
>> need
>> is included 'out of the box'. Many other applications are freely
>> available
>> with a simple click on the package installer.
>>

>
> The post is about Vista not a second rate minor system.which a novice
> would soon give up on.
>

Linux is not a second rate minor system. Actually it is far more
efficient system that is programmed better and runs much better. That
said today it is not supported nearly as well as a Windows system so a
novice would be better off with Windows. That is why so many endure
with the antivirus and security issues and have to reboot their machine
all of the time.

Sure there are some Linux programs (gThumb) that do not behave that well
and sometimes you need a fresh reboot to use them but when I am running
Windows I have to reboot 10 times more frequently.

Still while the novice should run Windows because of the current
situation he can prepare for Linux for the future by using some open
source programs. The big 2 are Firefox, Thunderbird, and Open Office.
Open Office can do everything that MS Office can do for the basic user
and does it more efficiently. And Firefox and Thunderbird is a no
brainer over Internet Explorer and Outlook.

Soon,but still a ways off, the hardware mfg will not longer be able to
resist the growing Linux market.
>
>
 
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