Not Responding errors

[rlarse]

"Gerry" wrote:

> There would seem to be many more places from which programmes start than
> you might think!
>
> Msconfig is a Diagnostic Utility and not intended to be used to turn off
> unwanted start up programmes. You do this from within each programme or
> using a programme like Autoruns. Leave msconfig alone and try Autoruns:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
>
> Look in Norton for ways to suspend scanning on Start Up to test it's
> impact.
>
> It would be helpful if you answered my earlier question. Is there a
> direct correlation between the start up process and the Not Responding
> messages? If the computer has been running some time are the Not
> Responding messages less frequent, the same or more frequent?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > Ok, I will run page file monitor in the next day or so and report
> > back on that.
> >
> > As for my Adobe products:
> >
> > Acrobat 5.0
> > Distiller 5.0
> > Illustrator 10.0.3
> > Image Ready 7.0
> > PhotoShop 7.0
> >
> > I don't have any programs in my Startup. Learned that lesson a long
> > time
> > ago but it still takes 4 minutes for my icons to appear and to be
> > able to proceed. I'm wondering what is stalling it. You think it's
> > Norton? Even though it's not in my Startup? Is there somewhere else
> > I can look to stop it from scanning on startup if that is indeed
> > what's happening?
> >
> >
> > Usually when I get the "Not Responding" error, I just have to left
> > click my mouse, wait a couple of seconds and it clears up. Just a
> > little while ago however and once earlier today it hung for several
> > minutes and I was unable
> > to even get to my Task Manager.
> >
> > Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this.
> >
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> You need to run page file monitor to confirm exactly how much of the
> >> pagefile is actually being used.
> >>
> >> Norton will cause a particular problem at start because most likely
> >> iniates a full scan. This alone can make a computer unusable until
> >> the scan has completed. If you succeed in starting another programme
> >> before the scan has completed there is every chance that you will
> >> get a Not Responding message for the programme you have started. How
> >> long does it take for Norton to complete the scan on start up? How
> >> many files is Norton scanning?
> >>
> >> Although you say these programmes have been installed for years I
> >> doubt they are the same as when they were first installed. Adobe has
> >> definely grown significantly in size over the years.Which of the
> >> programmes I listed load on start up. Do they need to load on start
> >> up or could you change any to load on demand.
> >>
> >> If a programme is Not Responding it is still running. Just end it in
> >> Task Manager and notice how the response from the computer improves.
> >> When a Not Responding message is generated it is indicative that the
> >> programme has hit a problem. It can then keep trying to resolve the
> >> problem but in doing so only exacerbates the problem. It can be
> >> better to stop the programme and try again at a more favourable time.
> >>
> >> Is there a direct correlation between the start up process and the
> >> Not Responding messages? If the computer has been running some time
> >> are the Not Responding messages less frequent, the same or more
> >> frequent?
> >>
> >> What are the precise versions of Adobe you have?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>> Call me naive, but these programs (the upgraded Norton withstanding)
> >>> have all been installed for years without issue sowhat would cause
> >>> them to suddenly be a problem. Also, are they draining my memory
> >>> even though when the "Not Responding" error occurs, they're not even
> >>> running?
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You have many programmes requiring abnormal amounts of memory:
> >>>>
> >>>> ACDSee 4.0
> >>>> Adobe
> >>>> Adobe PhotoShop
> >>>> Norton
> >>>> PaintShop Pro
> >>>> Photo Editor
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Gerry and Nass for the advice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have ACDSee 4.0 installed and it has been since shortly after I
> >>>>> bought the computer 4 years ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have the full version of Adobe installed (again since day one);
> >>>>> however I only use it to read and print documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have several graphic/photo editing programs intalled and use
> >>>>> them fairly frequently. I have PaintShop Pro, Print Shop, Photo
> >>>>> Editor, Adobe PhotoShop and possible a few others. All of these
> >>>>> have been installed since day one as well. I do have a large
> >>>>> number of photo's on my pc and I regularly save them to CD and
> >>>>> remove them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for Norton, when my subscription was up for renewal a couple of
> >>>>> months ago I somehow ended up upgraded to their latest version for
> >>>>> free instead of just renewing the one I had. Quite frankly I
> >>>>> preferred the older version, plus it took my Norton Utilities away
> >>>>> with it. I do think my "Not Responding" problems have gotten
> >>>>> worse since then. Coincidence? I don't know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other than the Norton upgrade and the IE 7 upgrade, I haven't
> >>>>> installed anything new to the computer. I even removed all my mp3
> >>>>> files to clear up 3GB of room thinking that might help. Why all
> >>>>> of a sudden is my RAM an issue do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Notwithstanding the comments by Nass I still think your key
> >>>>>> problem is insufficient RAM memory. True there are other
> >>>>>> problems but these would diminish with more RAM and the nature
> >>>>>> of these other problems would become clearer. You should be
> >>>>>> aware that Nass and I frequently compare notes as we tend to
> >>>>>> respond to the same problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The need for more RAM can be verified by running a freeware
> >>>>>> utility which gives better information on pagefile usage than
> >>>>>> Task Manager. Using this tool will have a negligible impact on
> >>>>>> your system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it
> >>>>>> to run immediately after start-up and look at the log.
> >>>>>> Pagefilemon takes snapshots. You need to run it at the beginning
> >>>>>> of the session at then run it again at intervals throughout the
> >>>>>> sessions. The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the
> >>>>>> file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create
> >>>>>> Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
> >>>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note programs using undo features, particularly those associated
> >>>>>> with graphics and photo editing, require large amounts of memory
> >>>>>> so if you use this type of programme check these first observing
> >>>>>> how the page usage increases when they start and whether the
> >>>>>> usage decreases when you close the programme.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You do have the anti-virus programme I thought you might have.
> >>>>>> Norton does bring with it a large footprint and this will have a
> >>>>>> noticeable impact on system performance. There are other freeware
> >>>>>> programmes which do the business without the performance
> >>>>>> downside. Norton still enjoys a good reputation with business
> >>>>>> users but is not rated highly nowadays for use on home computers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Architecture
> >>>>>> DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory connectors
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory capacities
> >>>>>> 128-, 256-, or 512-MB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Minimum memory
> >>>>>> 128 MB shared DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be
> >>>>>> allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size
> >>>>>> and other factors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maximum memory
> >>>>>> 1 GB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory type
> >>>>>> PC2100 (266-MHz) DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>> (non-ECC)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> System information regarding adding memory. Maximum for your
> >>>>>> computer 1,024 mb.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1107033
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/replace.htm#1183874
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ccApp is part of Norton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FontCapture (or should it be Font Capture) leads me to another
> >>>>>> question. Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader ? If yes, which
> >>>>>> specific version? Are you just using it to read and print pdf
> >>>>>> documents or are you editing pdf documents? There have problems
> >>>>>> reported with some versions of Adobe and it has a large
> >>>>>> footprint much like Norton.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>>> FCA
> >>>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dell Dimension 2350
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2392
> >>>>>>> Mhz Intel, Pentium 4 CPU, 2.40GHz
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Symantec/Norton Anti-Virus v. 14.2.0.29
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anti-Spy:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I downloaded SUPER Anti-Spyware (Free Edition) the other day to
> >>>>>>> double check my Verizon version just in case that one was
> >>>>>>> missing something. It picked up the typical spyware and I
> >>>>>>> removed it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Verizon Yahoo Online Protection Anti-Spy v. 2005.5.2.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Motherboard - don't know how to tell other than downloading a
> >>>>>>> program to tell me and at this point I'd rather not download
> >>>>>>> anything else
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Update History - all successful for August 19 and prior
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Software Updates - 5 (don't know if they're necessary so I
> >>>>>>> haven't installed them)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Root Certificates Update
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
> >>>>>>> Remote Desktop Connection (Terminal Services Client 6.0) for
> >>>>>>> Windows XP (KB925876)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider
> >>>>>>> Package: x86 (KB909520)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hardware Updates - 1
> >>>>>>>Have the same problem with Vista & Outlook and Word 2007. Sometimes after showing "Not Responding" the screen goes opaque, then back to "Not Responding" then it opens. I have had it take as long a 5 minutes on occasion.

 

[Curious1975]

It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
naviagte my computer much faster.

Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
grinding sound from within the CPU. I can't see how the installation of
additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
damaging anything?

Any assistance is appreciated.

"Gerry" wrote:

> There would seem to be many more places from which programmes start than
> you might think!
>
> Msconfig is a Diagnostic Utility and not intended to be used to turn off
> unwanted start up programmes. You do this from within each programme or
> using a programme like Autoruns. Leave msconfig alone and try Autoruns:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
>
> Look in Norton for ways to suspend scanning on Start Up to test it's
> impact.
>
> It would be helpful if you answered my earlier question. Is there a
> direct correlation between the start up process and the Not Responding
> messages? If the computer has been running some time are the Not
> Responding messages less frequent, the same or more frequent?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > Ok, I will run page file monitor in the next day or so and report
> > back on that.
> >
> > As for my Adobe products:
> >
> > Acrobat 5.0
> > Distiller 5.0
> > Illustrator 10.0.3
> > Image Ready 7.0
> > PhotoShop 7.0
> >
> > I don't have any programs in my Startup. Learned that lesson a long
> > time
> > ago but it still takes 4 minutes for my icons to appear and to be
> > able to proceed. I'm wondering what is stalling it. You think it's
> > Norton? Even though it's not in my Startup? Is there somewhere else
> > I can look to stop it from scanning on startup if that is indeed
> > what's happening?
> >
> >
> > Usually when I get the "Not Responding" error, I just have to left
> > click my mouse, wait a couple of seconds and it clears up. Just a
> > little while ago however and once earlier today it hung for several
> > minutes and I was unable
> > to even get to my Task Manager.
> >
> > Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this.
> >
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> You need to run page file monitor to confirm exactly how much of the
> >> pagefile is actually being used.
> >>
> >> Norton will cause a particular problem at start because most likely
> >> iniates a full scan. This alone can make a computer unusable until
> >> the scan has completed. If you succeed in starting another programme
> >> before the scan has completed there is every chance that you will
> >> get a Not Responding message for the programme you have started. How
> >> long does it take for Norton to complete the scan on start up? How
> >> many files is Norton scanning?
> >>
> >> Although you say these programmes have been installed for years I
> >> doubt they are the same as when they were first installed. Adobe has
> >> definely grown significantly in size over the years.Which of the
> >> programmes I listed load on start up. Do they need to load on start
> >> up or could you change any to load on demand.
> >>
> >> If a programme is Not Responding it is still running. Just end it in
> >> Task Manager and notice how the response from the computer improves.
> >> When a Not Responding message is generated it is indicative that the
> >> programme has hit a problem. It can then keep trying to resolve the
> >> problem but in doing so only exacerbates the problem. It can be
> >> better to stop the programme and try again at a more favourable time.
> >>
> >> Is there a direct correlation between the start up process and the
> >> Not Responding messages? If the computer has been running some time
> >> are the Not Responding messages less frequent, the same or more
> >> frequent?
> >>
> >> What are the precise versions of Adobe you have?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>> Call me naive, but these programs (the upgraded Norton withstanding)
> >>> have all been installed for years without issue sowhat would cause
> >>> them to suddenly be a problem. Also, are they draining my memory
> >>> even though when the "Not Responding" error occurs, they're not even
> >>> running?
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You have many programmes requiring abnormal amounts of memory:
> >>>>
> >>>> ACDSee 4.0
> >>>> Adobe
> >>>> Adobe PhotoShop
> >>>> Norton
> >>>> PaintShop Pro
> >>>> Photo Editor
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Gerry and Nass for the advice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have ACDSee 4.0 installed and it has been since shortly after I
> >>>>> bought the computer 4 years ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have the full version of Adobe installed (again since day one);
> >>>>> however I only use it to read and print documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have several graphic/photo editing programs intalled and use
> >>>>> them fairly frequently. I have PaintShop Pro, Print Shop, Photo
> >>>>> Editor, Adobe PhotoShop and possible a few others. All of these
> >>>>> have been installed since day one as well. I do have a large
> >>>>> number of photo's on my pc and I regularly save them to CD and
> >>>>> remove them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for Norton, when my subscription was up for renewal a couple of
> >>>>> months ago I somehow ended up upgraded to their latest version for
> >>>>> free instead of just renewing the one I had. Quite frankly I
> >>>>> preferred the older version, plus it took my Norton Utilities away
> >>>>> with it. I do think my "Not Responding" problems have gotten
> >>>>> worse since then. Coincidence? I don't know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other than the Norton upgrade and the IE 7 upgrade, I haven't
> >>>>> installed anything new to the computer. I even removed all my mp3
> >>>>> files to clear up 3GB of room thinking that might help. Why all
> >>>>> of a sudden is my RAM an issue do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Notwithstanding the comments by Nass I still think your key
> >>>>>> problem is insufficient RAM memory. True there are other
> >>>>>> problems but these would diminish with more RAM and the nature
> >>>>>> of these other problems would become clearer. You should be
> >>>>>> aware that Nass and I frequently compare notes as we tend to
> >>>>>> respond to the same problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The need for more RAM can be verified by running a freeware
> >>>>>> utility which gives better information on pagefile usage than
> >>>>>> Task Manager. Using this tool will have a negligible impact on
> >>>>>> your system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it
> >>>>>> to run immediately after start-up and look at the log.
> >>>>>> Pagefilemon takes snapshots. You need to run it at the beginning
> >>>>>> of the session at then run it again at intervals throughout the
> >>>>>> sessions. The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the
> >>>>>> file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create
> >>>>>> Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
> >>>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note programs using undo features, particularly those associated
> >>>>>> with graphics and photo editing, require large amounts of memory
> >>>>>> so if you use this type of programme check these first observing
> >>>>>> how the page usage increases when they start and whether the
> >>>>>> usage decreases when you close the programme.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You do have the anti-virus programme I thought you might have.
> >>>>>> Norton does bring with it a large footprint and this will have a
> >>>>>> noticeable impact on system performance. There are other freeware
> >>>>>> programmes which do the business without the performance
> >>>>>> downside. Norton still enjoys a good reputation with business
> >>>>>> users but is not rated highly nowadays for use on home computers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Architecture
> >>>>>> DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory connectors
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory capacities
> >>>>>> 128-, 256-, or 512-MB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Minimum memory
> >>>>>> 128 MB shared DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be
> >>>>>> allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size
> >>>>>> and other factors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maximum memory
> >>>>>> 1 GB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory type
> >>>>>> PC2100 (266-MHz) DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>> (non-ECC)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> System information regarding adding memory. Maximum for your
> >>>>>> computer 1,024 mb.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1107033
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/replace.htm#1183874
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ccApp is part of Norton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FontCapture (or should it be Font Capture) leads me to another
> >>>>>> question. Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader ? If yes, which
> >>>>>> specific version? Are you just using it to read and print pdf
> >>>>>> documents or are you editing pdf documents? There have problems
> >>>>>> reported with some versions of Adobe and it has a large
> >>>>>> footprint much like Norton.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>>> FCA
> >>>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dell Dimension 2350
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2392
> >>>>>>> Mhz Intel, Pentium 4 CPU, 2.40GHz
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Symantec/Norton Anti-Virus v. 14.2.0.29
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anti-Spy:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I downloaded SUPER Anti-Spyware (Free Edition) the other day to
> >>>>>>> double check my Verizon version just in case that one was
> >>>>>>> missing something. It picked up the typical spyware and I
> >>>>>>> removed it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Verizon Yahoo Online Protection Anti-Spy v. 2005.5.2.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Motherboard - don't know how to tell other than downloading a
> >>>>>>> program to tell me and at this point I'd rather not download
> >>>>>>> anything else
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Update History - all successful for August 19 and prior
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Software Updates - 5 (don't know if they're necessary so I
> >>>>>>> haven't installed them)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Root Certificates Update
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
> >>>>>>> Remote Desktop Connection (Terminal Services Client 6.0) for
> >>>>>>> Windows XP (KB925876)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider
> >>>>>>> Package: x86 (KB909520)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hardware Updates - 1
> >>>>>>>

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
<Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
> memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
> and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
> dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
> I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
> had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
> naviagte my computer much faster.
>
> Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
> grinding sound from within the CPU.




The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
CPU.



> I can't see how the installation of
> additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
> happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
> damaging anything?


It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
certainly either the hard drive or a fan.

If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
many things.

If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Curious1975]

Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just using CPU
to describe the tower. Now I'm all worried that my hard dive is going to
fail me (I'm in the process of backing up files as I type this though). When
I added the memory it was the first time ever in over four years that I had
opened up the computer. Lots of dust in there. I cleared it out with Air
Duster and then added the memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems
to happen when I visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of
anything but thought I'd throw it out there.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
> <Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
> > memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
> > and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
> > dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
> > I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
> > had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
> > naviagte my computer much faster.
> >
> > Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
> > grinding sound from within the CPU.
>
>
>
>
> The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
> parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
> CPU.
>
>
>
> > I can't see how the installation of
> > additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
> > happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
> > damaging anything?
>
>
> It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
> without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
> certainly either the hard drive or a fan.
>
> If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
> many things.
>
> If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
> up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:36:05 -0800, Curious1975
<Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just using CPU
> to describe the tower.


OK, but that's inaccurate and misleading, and will confuse people. The
tower (the case) is just a box, and is a very different thing from a
CPU.


> Now I'm all worried that my hard dive is going to
> fail me


From what you've said, it should certainly be a concern.


> (I'm in the process of backing up files as I type this though).


Good. When you're finished, run a drive checking utility.


> When
> I added the memory it was the first time ever in over four years that I had
> opened up the computer. Lots of dust in there. I cleared it out with Air
> Duster


Excellent! You should do this periodically. The result of not doing so
can be overheating and hardware failure.


> and then added the memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems
> to happen when I visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of
> anything but thought I'd throw it out there.


That seems very odd. If it's a hardware issue, what web site you're at
should be irrelevant. What web sites are they?




> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
> > <Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing additional
> > > memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my problems. I bought 512mb
> > > and I now have 768mb and the "not responding" errors have been reduced
> > > dramatically. For some reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought
> > > I had 512mb so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
> > > had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm able to
> > > naviagte my computer much faster.
> > >
> > > Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
> > > grinding sound from within the CPU.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
> > parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
> > CPU.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I can't see how the installation of
> > > additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
> > > happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can do? Is it
> > > damaging anything?
> >
> >
> > It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
> > without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
> > certainly either the hard drive or a fan.
> >
> > If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
> > many things.
> >
> > If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
> > up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Gerry]

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Curious1975 wrote:
> Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just
> using CPU to describe the tower. Now I'm all worried that my hard
> dive is going to fail me (I'm in the process of backing up files as I
> type this though). When I added the memory it was the first time
> ever in over four years that I had opened up the computer. Lots of
> dust in there. I cleared it out with Air Duster and then added the
> memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems to happen when I
> visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of anything
> but thought I'd throw it out there.
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
>> <Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing
>>> additional memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my
>>> problems. I bought 512mb and I now have 768mb and the "not
>>> responding" errors have been reduced dramatically. For some reason
>>> I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought I had 512mb so I
>>> would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I had
>>> the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm
>>> able to naviagte my computer much faster.
>>>
>>> Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
>>> grinding sound from within the CPU.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
>> parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
>> CPU.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I can't see how the installation of
>>> additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
>>> happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can
>>> do? Is it damaging anything?
>>
>>
>> It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
>> without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
>> certainly either the hard drive or a fan.
>>
>> If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
>> many things.
>>
>> If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
>> up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Curious1975]

HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information

Firmware version : V21OA66A
Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)

S.M.A.R.T : yes
48-bit Address : yes
Read Look-Ahead : yes
Write Cache : yes
Host Protected Area : yes
Device Configuration Overlay : yes
Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
Power Management : yes
Advanced Power Management : yes
Power-up in Standby : yes
Security Mode : yes
Firmware Upgradable : no

Partition : 1
Drive letter :
Label :
Capacity : 31 MB
Usage : 0.00%
Type : unknown (DEh)
Bootable : No

Partition : 2
Drive letter : C:\
Label :
Capacity : 28576 MB
Usage : 63.58%
Type : NTFS
Bootable : Yes

-----------------------------------------
HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status

(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0 Ok

(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok

(03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614 Ok

(04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406 Ok

(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0 Ok

(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok

(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok

(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337 Ok

(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok

(0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399 Ok

(C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406 Ok

(C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406 Ok

(C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534 Ok

(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok

(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok


Power On Time : 7337
Health Status : Ok
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan

Scanned data : 28598 MB
Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
Elapsed Time : 27:10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disk Defrag:

Volume (C
Volume size = 27.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 17.69 GB
Free space = 10.21 GB
Percent free space = 36 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 14 %
File fragmentation = 27 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 91,857
Average file size = 382 KB
Total fragmented files = 4,867
Total excess fragments = 20,322
Average fragments per file = 1.22

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
Total fragments = 5

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,667
Fragmented folders = 114
Excess folder fragments = 337

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 182 MB
MFT record count = 98,832
Percent MFT in use = 52 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
386 25 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi
351 49 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
Folder (2)\Doc 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV
343 24 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
332 42 MB \System Volume
Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci
276 17 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
267 17 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
256 16 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
197 13 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
186 12 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
183 12 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi
169 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml
160 10 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp
116 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Apple
Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
91 6 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
89 354 KB \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log
80 5 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb
79 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat
77 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN
76 9 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp
61 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
Folder\Candid Personal\Pics\Thumbs.db
59 5 MB \WINDOWS\Temp\slu4728.tmp
59 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
56 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\tmp4692.tmp\VIRSCAN5.DAT
53 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
53 1 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\My
Pictures\Christopher & Julianna\July to Dec 2006\Thumbs.db
52 3 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u9hgz1o9.default\urlclassifier2.sqlite
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I ran a defrag afterwards (which I do do periodically anyway).

I hope all of that makes sense to you. Let me know if you can discern
anything from it which might be causing my problem.

Thanks.




"Gerry" wrote:

> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>
> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> http://www.hdtune.com/
>
> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
> and copy into a further message.
>
> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
> scan with HD Tune.
>
> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
> is more informative.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just
> > using CPU to describe the tower. Now I'm all worried that my hard
> > dive is going to fail me (I'm in the process of backing up files as I
> > type this though). When I added the memory it was the first time
> > ever in over four years that I had opened up the computer. Lots of
> > dust in there. I cleared it out with Air Duster and then added the
> > memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems to happen when I
> > visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of anything
> > but thought I'd throw it out there.
> >
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
> >> <Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing
> >>> additional memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my
> >>> problems. I bought 512mb and I now have 768mb and the "not
> >>> responding" errors have been reduced dramatically. For some reason
> >>> I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought I had 512mb so I
> >>> would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I had
> >>> the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way, I'm
> >>> able to naviagte my computer much faster.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally get a
> >>> grinding sound from within the CPU.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
> >> parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
> >> CPU.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I can't see how the installation of
> >>> additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only started
> >>> happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or what I can
> >>> do? Is it damaging anything?
> >>
> >>
> >> It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
> >> without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
> >> certainly either the hard drive or a fan.
> >>
> >> If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can damage
> >> many things.
> >>
> >> If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have an
> >> up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in case.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
>
>

 

[Curious1975]

Not sure if it's significant, but after defragmenting I received the
following in the report:

Volume (C
Volume size = 27.91 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 17.70 GB
Free space = 10.21 GB
Percent free space = 36 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 9 %
File fragmentation = 17 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 91,861
Average file size = 382 KB
Total fragmented files = 15
Total excess fragments = 1,465
Average fragments per file = 1.01

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
Total fragments = 5

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,667
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 182 MB
MFT record count = 98,836
Percent MFT in use = 52 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf


"Gerry" wrote:

> There would seem to be many more places from which programmes start than
> you might think!
>
> Msconfig is a Diagnostic Utility and not intended to be used to turn off
> unwanted start up programmes. You do this from within each programme or
> using a programme like Autoruns. Leave msconfig alone and try Autoruns:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
>
> Look in Norton for ways to suspend scanning on Start Up to test it's
> impact.
>
> It would be helpful if you answered my earlier question. Is there a
> direct correlation between the start up process and the Not Responding
> messages? If the computer has been running some time are the Not
> Responding messages less frequent, the same or more frequent?
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > Ok, I will run page file monitor in the next day or so and report
> > back on that.
> >
> > As for my Adobe products:
> >
> > Acrobat 5.0
> > Distiller 5.0
> > Illustrator 10.0.3
> > Image Ready 7.0
> > PhotoShop 7.0
> >
> > I don't have any programs in my Startup. Learned that lesson a long
> > time
> > ago but it still takes 4 minutes for my icons to appear and to be
> > able to proceed. I'm wondering what is stalling it. You think it's
> > Norton? Even though it's not in my Startup? Is there somewhere else
> > I can look to stop it from scanning on startup if that is indeed
> > what's happening?
> >
> >
> > Usually when I get the "Not Responding" error, I just have to left
> > click my mouse, wait a couple of seconds and it clears up. Just a
> > little while ago however and once earlier today it hung for several
> > minutes and I was unable
> > to even get to my Task Manager.
> >
> > Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to assist me with this.
> >
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> You need to run page file monitor to confirm exactly how much of the
> >> pagefile is actually being used.
> >>
> >> Norton will cause a particular problem at start because most likely
> >> iniates a full scan. This alone can make a computer unusable until
> >> the scan has completed. If you succeed in starting another programme
> >> before the scan has completed there is every chance that you will
> >> get a Not Responding message for the programme you have started. How
> >> long does it take for Norton to complete the scan on start up? How
> >> many files is Norton scanning?
> >>
> >> Although you say these programmes have been installed for years I
> >> doubt they are the same as when they were first installed. Adobe has
> >> definely grown significantly in size over the years.Which of the
> >> programmes I listed load on start up. Do they need to load on start
> >> up or could you change any to load on demand.
> >>
> >> If a programme is Not Responding it is still running. Just end it in
> >> Task Manager and notice how the response from the computer improves.
> >> When a Not Responding message is generated it is indicative that the
> >> programme has hit a problem. It can then keep trying to resolve the
> >> problem but in doing so only exacerbates the problem. It can be
> >> better to stop the programme and try again at a more favourable time.
> >>
> >> Is there a direct correlation between the start up process and the
> >> Not Responding messages? If the computer has been running some time
> >> are the Not Responding messages less frequent, the same or more
> >> frequent?
> >>
> >> What are the precise versions of Adobe you have?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>> Call me naive, but these programs (the upgraded Norton withstanding)
> >>> have all been installed for years without issue sowhat would cause
> >>> them to suddenly be a problem. Also, are they draining my memory
> >>> even though when the "Not Responding" error occurs, they're not even
> >>> running?
> >>>
> >>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You have many programmes requiring abnormal amounts of memory:
> >>>>
> >>>> ACDSee 4.0
> >>>> Adobe
> >>>> Adobe PhotoShop
> >>>> Norton
> >>>> PaintShop Pro
> >>>> Photo Editor
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gerry
> >>>> ~~~~
> >>>> FCA
> >>>> Stourport, England
> >>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>
> >>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks Gerry and Nass for the advice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have ACDSee 4.0 installed and it has been since shortly after I
> >>>>> bought the computer 4 years ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have the full version of Adobe installed (again since day one);
> >>>>> however I only use it to read and print documents.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have several graphic/photo editing programs intalled and use
> >>>>> them fairly frequently. I have PaintShop Pro, Print Shop, Photo
> >>>>> Editor, Adobe PhotoShop and possible a few others. All of these
> >>>>> have been installed since day one as well. I do have a large
> >>>>> number of photo's on my pc and I regularly save them to CD and
> >>>>> remove them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for Norton, when my subscription was up for renewal a couple of
> >>>>> months ago I somehow ended up upgraded to their latest version for
> >>>>> free instead of just renewing the one I had. Quite frankly I
> >>>>> preferred the older version, plus it took my Norton Utilities away
> >>>>> with it. I do think my "Not Responding" problems have gotten
> >>>>> worse since then. Coincidence? I don't know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other than the Norton upgrade and the IE 7 upgrade, I haven't
> >>>>> installed anything new to the computer. I even removed all my mp3
> >>>>> files to clear up 3GB of room thinking that might help. Why all
> >>>>> of a sudden is my RAM an issue do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Gerry" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Notwithstanding the comments by Nass I still think your key
> >>>>>> problem is insufficient RAM memory. True there are other
> >>>>>> problems but these would diminish with more RAM and the nature
> >>>>>> of these other problems would become clearer. You should be
> >>>>>> aware that Nass and I frequently compare notes as we tend to
> >>>>>> respond to the same problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The need for more RAM can be verified by running a freeware
> >>>>>> utility which gives better information on pagefile usage than
> >>>>>> Task Manager. Using this tool will have a negligible impact on
> >>>>>> your system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it
> >>>>>> to run immediately after start-up and look at the log.
> >>>>>> Pagefilemon takes snapshots. You need to run it at the beginning
> >>>>>> of the session at then run it again at intervals throughout the
> >>>>>> sessions. The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the
> >>>>>> file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create
> >>>>>> Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
> >>>>>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note programs using undo features, particularly those associated
> >>>>>> with graphics and photo editing, require large amounts of memory
> >>>>>> so if you use this type of programme check these first observing
> >>>>>> how the page usage increases when they start and whether the
> >>>>>> usage decreases when you close the programme.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You do have the anti-virus programme I thought you might have.
> >>>>>> Norton does bring with it a large footprint and this will have a
> >>>>>> noticeable impact on system performance. There are other freeware
> >>>>>> programmes which do the business without the performance
> >>>>>> downside. Norton still enjoys a good reputation with business
> >>>>>> users but is not rated highly nowadays for use on home computers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Architecture
> >>>>>> DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory connectors
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory capacities
> >>>>>> 128-, 256-, or 512-MB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Minimum memory
> >>>>>> 128 MB shared DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NOTE: Between 32 and 64 MB of system memory may be
> >>>>>> allocated to support graphics, depending on system memory size
> >>>>>> and other factors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maximum memory
> >>>>>> 1 GB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Memory type
> >>>>>> PC2100 (266-MHz) DDR SDRAM
> >>>>>> (non-ECC)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> System information regarding adding memory. Maximum for your
> >>>>>> computer 1,024 mb.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1107033
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/replace.htm#1183874
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ccApp is part of Norton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FontCapture (or should it be Font Capture) leads me to another
> >>>>>> question. Do you use Adobe Acrobat Reader ? If yes, which
> >>>>>> specific version? Are you just using it to read and print pdf
> >>>>>> documents or are you editing pdf documents? There have problems
> >>>>>> reported with some versions of Adobe and it has a large
> >>>>>> footprint much like Norton.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope this helps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>> ~~~~
> >>>>>> FCA
> >>>>>> Stourport, England
> >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dell Dimension 2350
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2392
> >>>>>>> Mhz Intel, Pentium 4 CPU, 2.40GHz
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Symantec/Norton Anti-Virus v. 14.2.0.29
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anti-Spy:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I downloaded SUPER Anti-Spyware (Free Edition) the other day to
> >>>>>>> double check my Verizon version just in case that one was
> >>>>>>> missing something. It picked up the typical spyware and I
> >>>>>>> removed it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Verizon Yahoo Online Protection Anti-Spy v. 2005.5.2.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Motherboard - don't know how to tell other than downloading a
> >>>>>>> program to tell me and at this point I'd rather not download
> >>>>>>> anything else
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Update History - all successful for August 19 and prior
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Software Updates - 5 (don't know if they're necessary so I
> >>>>>>> haven't installed them)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Root Certificates Update
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
> >>>>>>> Remote Desktop Connection (Terminal Services Client 6.0) for
> >>>>>>> Windows XP (KB925876)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider
> >>>>>>> Package: x86 (KB909520)
> >>>>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hardware Updates - 1
> >>>>>>>

 

[Gerry]

There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and is
multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is most
likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in use I would
run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the programme more than
once, perhaps as many as three times to get a result. However, before
running Disk Defragmenter you should clean up the drive.

It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?

I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe Photoshop 7.
They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been updated a
number of times. Do you have the latest update?

Do you leave the computer on 24/7?

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? Can
you provide figures immediately after starting your computer anlso after
you have started your favourite photographic program and doing what ever
you do with program.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~







Curious1975 wrote:
> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information
>
> Firmware version : V21OA66A
> Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
> Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
> Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
> Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
> Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
> Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
>
> S.M.A.R.T : yes
> 48-bit Address : yes
> Read Look-Ahead : yes
> Write Cache : yes
> Host Protected Area : yes
> Device Configuration Overlay : yes
> Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
> Power Management : yes
> Advanced Power Management : yes
> Power-up in Standby : yes
> Security Mode : yes
> Firmware Upgradable : no
>
> Partition : 1
> Drive letter :
> Label :
> Capacity : 31 MB
> Usage : 0.00%
> Type : unknown (DEh)
> Bootable : No
>
> Partition : 2
> Drive letter : C:\
> Label :
> Capacity : 28576 MB
> Usage : 63.58%
> Type : NTFS
> Bootable : Yes
>
> -----------------------------------------
> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health
>
> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> Status
>
> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0
> Ok
>
> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> Ok
>
> (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614
> Ok
>
> (04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406
> Ok
>
> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0
> Ok
>
> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> Ok
>
> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> Ok
>
> (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337
> Ok
>
> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> Ok
>
> (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399
> Ok
>
> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406
> Ok
>
> (C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406
> Ok
>
> (C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534
> Ok
>
> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> Ok
>
> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> Ok
>
>
> Power On Time : 7337
> Health Status : Ok
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan
>
> Scanned data : 28598 MB
> Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
> Elapsed Time : 27:10
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Disk Defrag:
>
> Volume (C
> Volume size = 27.91 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 17.69 GB
> Free space = 10.21 GB
> Percent free space = 36 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 14 %
> File fragmentation = 27 %
> Free space fragmentation = 1 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 91,857
> Average file size = 382 KB
> Total fragmented files = 4,867
> Total excess fragments = 20,322
> Average fragments per file = 1.22
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
> Total fragments = 5
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 6,667
> Fragmented folders = 114
> Excess folder fragments = 337
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 182 MB
> MFT record count = 98,832
> Percent MFT in use = 52 %
> Total MFT fragments = 3
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
> 1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and
> Settings\Amy\Application Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
> 386 25 MB \Documents and
> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi 351 49 MB
> \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New Folder (2)\Doc
> 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV 343 24
> MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
> 332 42 MB \System Volume
> Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci 276 17 MB
> \System Volume
> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
> 267 17 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
> 256 16 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
> 197 13 MB
> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
> 186 12 MB
> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
> 183 12 MB \Documents and
> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi 169
> 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml 160
> 10 MB
> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
> 146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp 116 8
> MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Apple
> Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
> 91 6 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
> 89 354 KB
> \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log 80 5 MB
> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb 79
> 5 MB
> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
> 79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat 77 5 MB
> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
> 77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN 76 9 MB
> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
> Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp 61
> 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
> Folder\Candid Personal\Pics\Thumbs.db 59 5 MB
> \WINDOWS\Temp\slu4728.tmp 59 5 MB \Program
> Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
> 56 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> Shared\VirusDefs\tmp4692.tmp\VIRSCAN5.DAT
> 53 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
> 53 1 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My
> Documents\My Pictures\Christopher & Julianna\July to Dec
> 2006\Thumbs.db 52 3 MB \Documents and
> Settings\Amy\Application
> Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u9hgz1o9.default\urlclassifier2.sqlite
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I ran a defrag afterwards (which I do do periodically anyway).
>
> I hope all of that makes sense to you. Let me know if you can discern
> anything from it which might be causing my problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>
>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>
>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
>> and copy into a further message.
>>
>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
>> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
>> surface scan with HD Tune.
>>
>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
>> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
>> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as
>> it is more informative.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Curious1975 wrote:
>>> Sorry for my poor choice in technological terminology as I was just
>>> using CPU to describe the tower. Now I'm all worried that my hard
>>> dive is going to fail me (I'm in the process of backing up files as
>>> I type this though). When I added the memory it was the first time
>>> ever in over four years that I had opened up the computer. Lots of
>>> dust in there. I cleared it out with Air Duster and then added the
>>> memory. I will say that the grinding noise seems to happen when I
>>> visit certain websites. Don't know if this is indicative of
>>> anything but thought I'd throw it out there.
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0800, Curious1975
>>>> <Curious1975@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's taken me 3 months, but I finally got around to purchasing
>>>>> additional memory in the hopes that it would easily solve my
>>>>> problems. I bought 512mb and I now have 768mb and the "not
>>>>> responding" errors have been reduced dramatically. For some
>>>>> reason I forgot I only had 256mb already but thought I had 512mb
>>>>> so I would have purchased two 512mb's had I realized. Maybe if I
>>>>> had the "not responding" would have been eliminated. Either way,
>>>>> I'm able to naviagte my computer much faster.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, it's not without side-effects. Now, I occasionally
>>>>> get a grinding sound from within the CPU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The CPU is your processor, an electronic chip, and has no moving
>>>> parts. Wherever your grinding sound is coming from, it's *not* the
>>>> CPU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I can't see how the installation of
>>>>> additional memory and the grinding aren't related as it only
>>>>> started happening after I installed it. Any ideas as to why or
>>>>> what I can do? Is it damaging anything?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It could be just a coincidence. It's hard to tell what the sound is
>>>> without hearing it, but yes, it could be damaging. It's almost
>>>> certainly either the hard drive or a fan.
>>>>
>>>> If the fan fails, overheating can be the result, and that can
>>>> damage many things.
>>>>
>>>> If it's the hard drive, it may be about to fail. Be sure you have
>>>> an up-to-date backup of anything you can't afford to lose, just in
>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Curious1975]

As I mentioned, in the past I have defragmented and it's always defragmented
without issue or errors so I was surprised to see that today. Not sure what
the ImageDB.dff file is. I will try your suggestions and report back.

I am not sure if I have the latest Adobe Photoshop updates or not. I will
look into that as well.

I don't leave the computer on 24/7 per say. When not in use, I usually have
it in Hibernate mode. I do reboot it about once a week or when updates
require it or when I feel it necessary. Is putting it in hibernate a bad
thing. Would it be better to turn it off or just leave it on instead?

I would say ACDsee is the most used photo progam on my pc. It's what I use
to view any and all pictures and I frequently do so.

I'll report back tomorrow with more details.

Thanks again for your assistance.

"Gerry" wrote:

> There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
> information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and is
> multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is most
> likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in use I would
> run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the programme more than
> once, perhaps as many as three times to get a result. However, before
> running Disk Defragmenter you should clean up the drive.
>
> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
> on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
> Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
> Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this time
> find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit.
> When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit.
>
> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
> Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>
> Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?
>
> I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe Photoshop 7.
> They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been updated a
> number of times. Do you have the latest update?
>
> Do you leave the computer on 24/7?
>
> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? Can
> you provide figures immediately after starting your computer anlso after
> you have started your favourite photographic program and doing what ever
> you do with program.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information
> >
> > Firmware version : V21OA66A
> > Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
> > Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
> > Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
> > Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
> > Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
> > Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
> >
> > S.M.A.R.T : yes
> > 48-bit Address : yes
> > Read Look-Ahead : yes
> > Write Cache : yes
> > Host Protected Area : yes
> > Device Configuration Overlay : yes
> > Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
> > Power Management : yes
> > Advanced Power Management : yes
> > Power-up in Standby : yes
> > Security Mode : yes
> > Firmware Upgradable : no
> >
> > Partition : 1
> > Drive letter :
> > Label :
> > Capacity : 31 MB
> > Usage : 0.00%
> > Type : unknown (DEh)
> > Bootable : No
> >
> > Partition : 2
> > Drive letter : C:\
> > Label :
> > Capacity : 28576 MB
> > Usage : 63.58%
> > Type : NTFS
> > Bootable : Yes
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health
> >
> > ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> > Status
> >
> > (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614
> > Ok
> >
> > (04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406
> > Ok
> >
> > (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337
> > Ok
> >
> > (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399
> > Ok
> >
> > (C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406
> > Ok
> >
> > (C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406
> > Ok
> >
> > (C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534
> > Ok
> >
> > (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> > (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> > Ok
> >
> >
> > Power On Time : 7337
> > Health Status : Ok
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan
> >
> > Scanned data : 28598 MB
> > Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
> > Elapsed Time : 27:10
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Disk Defrag:
> >
> > Volume (C
> > Volume size = 27.91 GB
> > Cluster size = 4 KB
> > Used space = 17.69 GB
> > Free space = 10.21 GB
> > Percent free space = 36 %
> >
> > Volume fragmentation
> > Total fragmentation = 14 %
> > File fragmentation = 27 %
> > Free space fragmentation = 1 %
> >
> > File fragmentation
> > Total files = 91,857
> > Average file size = 382 KB
> > Total fragmented files = 4,867
> > Total excess fragments = 20,322
> > Average fragments per file = 1.22
> >
> > Pagefile fragmentation
> > Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
> > Total fragments = 5
> >
> > Folder fragmentation
> > Total folders = 6,667
> > Fragmented folders = 114
> > Excess folder fragments = 337
> >
> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> > Total MFT size = 182 MB
> > MFT record count = 98,832
> > Percent MFT in use = 52 %
> > Total MFT fragments = 3
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
> > 1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and
> > Settings\Amy\Application Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
> > 386 25 MB \Documents and
> > Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> > Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi 351 49 MB
> > \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New Folder (2)\Doc
> > 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV 343 24
> > MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
> > Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
> > 332 42 MB \System Volume
> > Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci 276 17 MB
> > \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
> > 267 17 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
> > 256 16 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
> > 197 13 MB
> > \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
> > 186 12 MB
> > \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
> > 183 12 MB \Documents and
> > Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> > Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi 169
> > 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml 160
> > 10 MB
> > \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
> > 146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp 116 8
> > MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> > Data\Apple
> > Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
> > 91 6 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
> > 89 354 KB
> > \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log 80 5 MB
> > \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> > Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb 79
> > 5 MB
> > \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
> > 79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> > Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat 77 5 MB
> > \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
> > 77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> > Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN 76 9 MB
> > \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
> > Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp 61
> > 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
> > Folder\Candid Personal\Pics\Thumbs.db 59 5 MB
> > \WINDOWS\Temp\slu4728.tmp 59 5 MB \Program
> > Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
> > 56 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> > Shared\VirusDefs\tmp4692.tmp\VIRSCAN5.DAT
> > 53 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> > Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
> > 53 1 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My
> > Documents\My Pictures\Christopher & Julianna\July to Dec
> > 2006\Thumbs.db 52 3 MB \Documents and
> > Settings\Amy\Application
> > Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u9hgz1o9.default\urlclassifier2.sqlite
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I ran a defrag afterwards (which I do do periodically anyway).
> >
> > I hope all of that makes sense to you. Let me know if you can discern
> > anything from it which might be causing my problem.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
> >>
> >> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> >> http://www.hdtune.com/
> >>
> >> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> >> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
> >> and copy into a further message.
> >>
> >> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
> >> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
> >> surface scan with HD Tune.
> >>
> >> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> >> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> >> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as
> >> it is more informative.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA

 

[Gerry]

According to my research ImageDB.dff is an ACDsee file containing
Thumbnals.

What version of ACDsee are you using?

I found some ACDsee User Manuals. You can remove unwanted Thumbnails. Do
you ever do this?

I am not sure what affect Hibernate has on releasing memory. It may not
release memory as Shutdown and Restart does. Hibernate dumps the whole
of what is held in RAM to the hard disk. At least that is my present
understanding of the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_XP#Hibernate_mode


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Curious1975 wrote:
> As I mentioned, in the past I have defragmented and it's always
> defragmented without issue or errors so I was surprised to see that
> today. Not sure what the ImageDB.dff file is. I will try your
> suggestions and report back.
>
> I am not sure if I have the latest Adobe Photoshop updates or not. I
> will look into that as well.
>
> I don't leave the computer on 24/7 per say. When not in use, I
> usually have it in Hibernate mode. I do reboot it about once a week
> or when updates require it or when I feel it necessary. Is putting
> it in hibernate a bad thing. Would it be better to turn it off or
> just leave it on instead?
>
> I would say ACDsee is the most used photo progam on my pc. It's what
> I use to view any and all pictures and I frequently do so.
>
> I'll report back tomorrow with more details.
>
> Thanks again for your assistance.
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>> There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
>> information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and is
>> multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is most
>> likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in use I
>> would run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the programme more
>> than once, perhaps as many as three times to get a result. However,
>> before running Disk Defragmenter you should clean up the drive.
>>
>> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
>> Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
>> it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
>> select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
>> Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until
>> it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click
>> on Apply and OK and exit.
>>
>> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
>> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
>> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
>> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
>> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>>
>> Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?
>>
>> I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe Photoshop
>> 7. They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been
>> updated a number of times. Do you have the latest update?
>>
>> Do you leave the computer on 24/7?
>>
>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>> Can you provide figures immediately after starting your computer
>> anlso after you have started your favourite photographic program and
>> doing what ever you do with program.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Curious1975 wrote:
>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information
>>>
>>> Firmware version : V21OA66A
>>> Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
>>> Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
>>> Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
>>> Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
>>> Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
>>> Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
>>>
>>> S.M.A.R.T : yes
>>> 48-bit Address : yes
>>> Read Look-Ahead : yes
>>> Write Cache : yes
>>> Host Protected Area : yes
>>> Device Configuration Overlay : yes
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
>>> Power Management : yes
>>> Advanced Power Management : yes
>>> Power-up in Standby : yes
>>> Security Mode : yes
>>> Firmware Upgradable : no
>>>
>>> Partition : 1
>>> Drive letter :
>>> Label :
>>> Capacity : 31 MB
>>> Usage : 0.00%
>>> Type : unknown (DEh)
>>> Bootable : No
>>>
>>> Partition : 2
>>> Drive letter : C:\
>>> Label :
>>> Capacity : 28576 MB
>>> Usage : 63.58%
>>> Type : NTFS
>>> Bootable : Yes
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health
>>>
>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>> Status
>>>
>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
>>> Ok
>>>
>>>
>>> Power On Time : 7337
>>> Health Status : Ok
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan
>>>
>>> Scanned data : 28598 MB
>>> Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
>>> Elapsed Time : 27:10
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Disk Defrag:
>>>
>>> Volume (C
>>> Volume size = 27.91 GB
>>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>>> Used space = 17.69 GB
>>> Free space = 10.21 GB
>>> Percent free space = 36 %
>>>
>>> Volume fragmentation
>>> Total fragmentation = 14 %
>>> File fragmentation = 27 %
>>> Free space fragmentation = 1 %
>>>
>>> File fragmentation
>>> Total files = 91,857
>>> Average file size = 382 KB
>>> Total fragmented files = 4,867
>>> Total excess fragments = 20,322
>>> Average fragments per file = 1.22
>>>
>>> Pagefile fragmentation
>>> Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
>>> Total fragments = 5
>>>
>>> Folder fragmentation
>>> Total folders = 6,667
>>> Fragmented folders = 114
>>> Excess folder fragments = 337
>>>
>>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>>> Total MFT size = 182 MB
>>> MFT record count = 98,832
>>> Percent MFT in use = 52 %
>>> Total MFT fragments = 3
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
>>> 1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and
>>> Settings\Amy\Application Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
>>> 386 25 MB \Documents and
>>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi 351 49 MB
>>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New Folder (2)\Doc
>>> 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV 343 24
>>> MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
>>> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
>>> 332 42 MB \System Volume
>>> Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci 276 17 MB
>>> \System Volume
>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
>>> 267 17 MB \System Volume
>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
>>> 256 16 MB \System Volume
>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
>>> 197 13 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
>>> 186 12 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
>>> 183 12 MB \Documents and
>>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>> Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi 169
>>> 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml 160
>>> 10 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
>>> 146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp 116 8
>>> MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
>>> Data\Apple
>>> Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
>>> 91 6 MB \System Volume
>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
>>> 89 354 KB
>>> \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log 80 5 MB
>>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
>>> Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb 79
>>> 5 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
>>> 79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
>>> Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat 77 5 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
>>> 77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
>>> Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN 76 9 MB
>>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
>>> Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp 61
>>> 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New
>>> Folder\Candid Personal\Pics\Thumbs.db 59 5 MB
>>> \WINDOWS\Temp\slu4728.tmp 59 5 MB \Program
>>> Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan9.dat
>>> 56 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
>>> Shared\VirusDefs\tmp4692.tmp\VIRSCAN5.DAT
>>> 53 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
>>> Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
>>> 53 1 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My
>>> Documents\My Pictures\Christopher & Julianna\July to Dec
>>> 2006\Thumbs.db 52 3 MB \Documents and
>>> Settings\Amy\Application
>>> Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\u9hgz1o9.default\urlclassifier2.sqlite
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> I ran a defrag afterwards (which I do do periodically anyway).
>>>
>>> I hope all of that makes sense to you. Let me know if you can
>>> discern anything from it which might be causing my problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>>>
>>>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>>>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>>>
>>>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
>>>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to
>>>> Clipboard ) and copy into a further message.
>>>>
>>>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon (
>>>> copy to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
>>>> surface scan with HD Tune.
>>>>
>>>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report
>>>> and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My
>>>> Documents Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk
>>>> Defragmenter as it is more informative.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA

 

[Curious1975]

Thanks for the info abot the ImageDB.dff. I have never removed unwanted
thumbnails. I don't even know which thumbnails it's referring to. I mean,
what would make some thumbnails unwanted and not others? Do you have a link
to the ACDsee Manuals so I can take a look? I am running version 4.0.2.0664.

Back to the information you asked me to get yesterday.

I changed the System Restore to 845MB/3% because 700MB wasn't an option.

I ran a Degrag in Safe Mode and it was still unable to defrag the
ImageDB.dff file. Did you think if I ran it a couple of more times in Safe
Mode that it would help? I was unclear about that.

From Task Manager:

On a reboot: Commit - Total = 263320 (it kept changing slightly), Limit =
1920644, Peak = 301036

After starting ACDsee: Commit - Total 321480 (again kept changing), Limit =
1920649, Peak = 364008.

Thanks again!






"Gerry" wrote:

>
> According to my research ImageDB.dff is an ACDsee file containing
> Thumbnals.
>
> What version of ACDsee are you using?
>
> I found some ACDsee User Manuals. You can remove unwanted Thumbnails. Do
> you ever do this?
>
> I am not sure what affect Hibernate has on releasing memory. It may not
> release memory as Shutdown and Restart does. Hibernate dumps the whole
> of what is held in RAM to the hard disk. At least that is my present
> understanding of the process.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_XP#Hibernate_mode
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Curious1975 wrote:
> > As I mentioned, in the past I have defragmented and it's always
> > defragmented without issue or errors so I was surprised to see that
> > today. Not sure what the ImageDB.dff file is. I will try your
> > suggestions and report back.
> >
> > I am not sure if I have the latest Adobe Photoshop updates or not. I
> > will look into that as well.
> >
> > I don't leave the computer on 24/7 per say. When not in use, I
> > usually have it in Hibernate mode. I do reboot it about once a week
> > or when updates require it or when I feel it necessary. Is putting
> > it in hibernate a bad thing. Would it be better to turn it off or
> > just leave it on instead?
> >
> > I would say ACDsee is the most used photo progam on my pc. It's what
> > I use to view any and all pictures and I frequently do so.
> >
> > I'll report back tomorrow with more details.
> >
> > Thanks again for your assistance.
> >
> > "Gerry" wrote:
> >
> >> There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
> >> information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and is
> >> multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is most
> >> likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in use I
> >> would run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the programme more
> >> than once, perhaps as many as three times to get a result. However,
> >> before running Disk Defragmenter you should clean up the drive.
> >>
> >> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
> >> Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
> >> it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
> >> select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
> >> Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left until
> >> it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click
> >> on Apply and OK and exit.
> >>
> >> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
> >> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
> >> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
> >> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
> >> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
> >>
> >> Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?
> >>
> >> I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe Photoshop
> >> 7. They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been
> >> updated a number of times. Do you have the latest update?
> >>
> >> Do you leave the computer on 24/7?
> >>
> >> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> >> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
> >> Can you provide figures immediately after starting your computer
> >> anlso after you have started your favourite photographic program and
> >> doing what ever you do with program.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >> ~~~~
> >> FCA
> >> Stourport, England
> >> Enquire, plan and execute
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Curious1975 wrote:
> >>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information
> >>>
> >>> Firmware version : V21OA66A
> >>> Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
> >>> Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
> >>> Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
> >>> Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
> >>> Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
> >>> Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
> >>>
> >>> S.M.A.R.T : yes
> >>> 48-bit Address : yes
> >>> Read Look-Ahead : yes
> >>> Write Cache : yes
> >>> Host Protected Area : yes
> >>> Device Configuration Overlay : yes
> >>> Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
> >>> Power Management : yes
> >>> Advanced Power Management : yes
> >>> Power-up in Standby : yes
> >>> Security Mode : yes
> >>> Firmware Upgradable : no
> >>>
> >>> Partition : 1
> >>> Drive letter :
> >>> Label :
> >>> Capacity : 31 MB
> >>> Usage : 0.00%
> >>> Type : unknown (DEh)
> >>> Bootable : No
> >>>
> >>> Partition : 2
> >>> Drive letter : C:\
> >>> Label :
> >>> Capacity : 28576 MB
> >>> Usage : 63.58%
> >>> Type : NTFS
> >>> Bootable : Yes
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------------
> >>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health
> >>>
> >>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
> >>> Status
> >>>
> >>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24 10813614
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
> >>> Ok
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Power On Time : 7337
> >>> Health Status : Ok
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan
> >>>
> >>> Scanned data : 28598 MB
> >>> Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
> >>> Elapsed Time : 27:10
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Disk Defrag:
> >>>
> >>> Volume (C
> >>> Volume size = 27.91 GB
> >>> Cluster size = 4 KB
> >>> Used space = 17.69 GB
> >>> Free space = 10.21 GB
> >>> Percent free space = 36 %
> >>>
> >>> Volume fragmentation
> >>> Total fragmentation = 14 %
> >>> File fragmentation = 27 %
> >>> Free space fragmentation = 1 %
> >>>
> >>> File fragmentation
> >>> Total files = 91,857
> >>> Average file size = 382 KB
> >>> Total fragmented files = 4,867
> >>> Total excess fragments = 20,322
> >>> Average fragments per file = 1.22
> >>>
> >>> Pagefile fragmentation
> >>> Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
> >>> Total fragments = 5
> >>>
> >>> Folder fragmentation
> >>> Total folders = 6,667
> >>> Fragmented folders = 114
> >>> Excess folder fragments = 337
> >>>
> >>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> >>> Total MFT size = 182 MB
> >>> MFT record count = 98,832
> >>> Percent MFT in use = 52 %
> >>> Total MFT fragments = 3
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
> >>> 1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and
> >>> Settings\Amy\Application Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
> >>> 386 25 MB \Documents and
> >>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> >>> Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi 351 49 MB
> >>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New Folder (2)\Doc
> >>> 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV 343 24
> >>> MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
> >>> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi
> >>> 332 42 MB \System Volume
> >>> Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci 276 17 MB
> >>> \System Volume
> >>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
> >>> 267 17 MB \System Volume
> >>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
> >>> 256 16 MB \System Volume
> >>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
> >>> 197 13 MB
> >>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
> >>> 186 12 MB
> >>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
> >>> 183 12 MB \Documents and
> >>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> >>> Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi 169
> >>> 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> >>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml 160
> >>> 10 MB
> >>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
> >>> 146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
> >>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp 116 8
> >>> MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> >>> Data\Apple
> >>> Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
> >>> 91 6 MB \System Volume
> >>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
> >>> 89 354 KB
> >>> \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log 80 5 MB
> >>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
> >>> Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb 79
> >>> 5 MB
> >>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
> >>> 79 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> >>> Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat 77 5 MB
> >>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
> >>> 77 5 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
> >>> Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN 76 9 MB
> >>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
> >>> Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp 61
> >>> 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New

 

[Gerry]

When I download from my camera to my computer I place the files in an As
Imported folder. When I edit or crop the photos I place the files in an
As amended folder. If you I used Thumbnail I would have two thumbs when
only one might be needed. Some photos when you download can be so like
another that they are not worth keeping. Doesn't the same apply to
thumbnails as to the files?

User guides
http://www.acdsee.com/support/trainingcenter/userguides/index

Page 71 may be of interest.

Resizing System Restore to 845 mb is fine. Did you also do this before
running Disk Defragmenter. "Also select Start, All Programs,
accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore
and remove all but the latest SystemRestore point."?

The Commit Charge figures are presently pointing to a problem with
ACDSee>

In Task Manager what processes are showing the largest Mem Usage and
Peak Mem Usage on the Prosses tab. You may need to add these columns to
those presently displayed -View, Select Columns.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Curious1975 wrote:
> Thanks for the info abot the ImageDB.dff. I have never removed
> unwanted thumbnails. I don't even know which thumbnails it's
> referring to. I mean, what would make some thumbnails unwanted and
> not others? Do you have a link to the ACDsee Manuals so I can take a
> look? I am running version 4.0.2.0664.
>
> Back to the information you asked me to get yesterday.
>
> I changed the System Restore to 845MB/3% because 700MB wasn't an
> option.
>
> I ran a Degrag in Safe Mode and it was still unable to defrag the
> ImageDB.dff file. Did you think if I ran it a couple of more times
> in Safe Mode that it would help? I was unclear about that.
>
> From Task Manager:
>
> On a reboot: Commit - Total = 263320 (it kept changing slightly),
> Limit = 1920644, Peak = 301036
>
> After starting ACDsee: Commit - Total 321480 (again kept changing),
> Limit = 1920649, Peak = 364008.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Gerry" wrote:
>
>>
>> According to my research ImageDB.dff is an ACDsee file containing
>> Thumbnals.
>>
>> What version of ACDsee are you using?
>>
>> I found some ACDsee User Manuals. You can remove unwanted
>> Thumbnails. Do you ever do this?
>>
>> I am not sure what affect Hibernate has on releasing memory. It may
>> not release memory as Shutdown and Restart does. Hibernate dumps the
>> whole of what is held in RAM to the hard disk. At least that is my
>> present understanding of the process.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_XP#Hibernate_mode
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Curious1975 wrote:
>>> As I mentioned, in the past I have defragmented and it's always
>>> defragmented without issue or errors so I was surprised to see that
>>> today. Not sure what the ImageDB.dff file is. I will try your
>>> suggestions and report back.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if I have the latest Adobe Photoshop updates or not.
>>> I will look into that as well.
>>>
>>> I don't leave the computer on 24/7 per say. When not in use, I
>>> usually have it in Hibernate mode. I do reboot it about once a week
>>> or when updates require it or when I feel it necessary. Is putting
>>> it in hibernate a bad thing. Would it be better to turn it off or
>>> just leave it on instead?
>>>
>>> I would say ACDsee is the most used photo progam on my pc. It's
>>> what I use to view any and all pictures and I frequently do so.
>>>
>>> I'll report back tomorrow with more details.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your assistance.
>>>
>>> "Gerry" wrote:
>>>
>>>> There seems to be only one obvious problem arising out of the
>>>> information you have provided. ImageDB.ddf is a colossal file and
>>>> is multi-fragmented. You need to defragment it. The sheer size is
>>>> most likely the problem but to make sure that the file is not in
>>>> use I would run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Running the
>>>> programme more than once, perhaps as many as three times to get a
>>>> result. However, before running Disk Defragmenter you should clean
>>>> up the drive.
>>>>
>>>> It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
>>>> Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
>>>> it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
>>>> select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
>>>> Settings but this time find the slider and drag it to the left
>>>> until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the Settings
>>>> screen click on Apply and OK and exit.
>>>>
>>>> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
>>>> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
>>>> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
>>>> CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the
>>>> latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>>>>
>>>> Does ImageDB.ddf still appear in the Most fragmented files list?
>>>>
>>>> I looked at the system requirements fpr ACDSee 4 and Adobe
>>>> Photoshop
>>>> 7. They do seem to be quite modest. Adobe Photoshop 7 has been
>>>> updated a number of times. Do you have the latest update?
>>>>
>>>> Do you leave the computer on 24/7?
>>>>
>>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
>>>> Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
>>>> and the Peak? Can you provide figures immediately after starting
>>>> your computer anlso after you have started your favourite
>>>> photographic program and doing what ever you do with program.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Curious1975 wrote:
>>>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Information
>>>>>
>>>>> Firmware version : V21OA66A
>>>>> Serial number : VNVA02G1C2A5AG
>>>>> Capacity : 27.9 GB (~30.0 GB)
>>>>> Buffer size : 1865216 bytes
>>>>> Standard : ATA/ATAPI-0
>>>>> Supported mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
>>>>> Current mode : UDMA Mode 5 (Ultra ATA/100)
>>>>>
>>>>> S.M.A.R.T : yes
>>>>> 48-bit Address : yes
>>>>> Read Look-Ahead : yes
>>>>> Write Cache : yes
>>>>> Host Protected Area : yes
>>>>> Device Configuration Overlay : yes
>>>>> Automatic Acoustic Management: yes
>>>>> Power Management : yes
>>>>> Advanced Power Management : yes
>>>>> Power-up in Standby : yes
>>>>> Security Mode : yes
>>>>> Firmware Upgradable : no
>>>>>
>>>>> Partition : 1
>>>>> Drive letter :
>>>>> Label :
>>>>> Capacity : 31 MB
>>>>> Usage : 0.00%
>>>>> Type : unknown (DEh)
>>>>> Bootable : No
>>>>>
>>>>> Partition : 2
>>>>> Drive letter : C:\
>>>>> Label :
>>>>> Capacity : 28576 MB
>>>>> Usage : 63.58%
>>>>> Type : NTFS
>>>>> Bootable : Yes
>>>>>
>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Health
>>>>>
>>>>> ID Current Worst ThresholdData
>>>>> Status
>>>>>
>>>>> (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (03) Spin Up Time 97 97 24
>>>>> 10813614 Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (04) Start/Stop Count 98 98 0 8406
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 7337
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (0C) Power Cycle Count 98 98 0 8399
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C0) Power Off Retract Count 93 93 50 8406
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C1) Load Cycle Count 93 93 50 8406
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C2) Temperature 183 183 0 917534
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>> (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Power On Time : 7337
>>>>> Health Status : Ok
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> HD Tune: IC35L030AVV207-0 Error Scan
>>>>>
>>>>> Scanned data : 28598 MB
>>>>> Damaged Blocks : 0.0 %
>>>>> Elapsed Time : 27:10
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Disk Defrag:
>>>>>
>>>>> Volume (C
>>>>> Volume size = 27.91 GB
>>>>> Cluster size = 4 KB
>>>>> Used space = 17.69 GB
>>>>> Free space = 10.21 GB
>>>>> Percent free space = 36 %
>>>>>
>>>>> Volume fragmentation
>>>>> Total fragmentation = 14 %
>>>>> File fragmentation = 27 %
>>>>> Free space fragmentation = 1 %
>>>>>
>>>>> File fragmentation
>>>>> Total files = 91,857
>>>>> Average file size = 382 KB
>>>>> Total fragmented files = 4,867
>>>>> Total excess fragments = 20,322
>>>>> Average fragments per file = 1.22
>>>>>
>>>>> Pagefile fragmentation
>>>>> Pagefile size = 1.13 GB
>>>>> Total fragments = 5
>>>>>
>>>>> Folder fragmentation
>>>>> Total folders = 6,667
>>>>> Fragmented folders = 114
>>>>> Excess folder fragments = 337
>>>>>
>>>>> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>>>>> Total MFT size = 182 MB
>>>>> MFT record count = 98,832
>>>>> Percent MFT in use = 52 %
>>>>> Total MFT fragments = 3
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
>>>>> 1,442 1.29 GB \Documents and
>>>>> Settings\Amy\Application Data\ACD Systems\ACDSee\ImageDB.ddf
>>>>> 386 25 MB \Documents and
>>>>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>>>> Files\Content.IE5\0S7HMEX3\QuickTime[1].msi 351 49 MB
>>>>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New Folder (2)\Doc
>>>>> 4\Friends\Video & Audio\2006_6_V V on Ryan S.WAV 343
>>>>> 24 MB \Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Local
>>>>> Settings\Temporary Internet
>>>>> Files\Content.IE5\0XQN096B\iTunes[1].msi 332 42 MB
>>>>> \System Volume Information\catalog.wci\00010008.ci 276
>>>>> 17 MB \System Volume
>>>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP528\A0336275.exe
>>>>> 267 17 MB \System Volume
>>>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333512.exe
>>>>> 256 16 MB \System Volume
>>>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP513\A0331038.exe
>>>>> 197 13 MB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Windows.Forms\b2484bca73ced66d3bbb28a4d9a4ece0\System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll
>>>>> 186 12 MB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Web\7e4c1f537352b8943d408f29728e8da0\System.Web.ni.dll
>>>>> 183 12 MB \Documents and
>>>>> Settings\NetworkService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
>>>>> Files\Content.IE5\NK6YQWZJ\AppleMobileDeviceSupport[1].msi 169
>>>>> 11 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\wmdbexport.xml
>>>>> 160 10 MB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_32\System.Design\e7422db2a04a6745483658ccddf1bd02\System.Design.ni.dll
>>>>> 146 23 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Wallpaper1.bmp 116
>>>>> 8 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local
>>>>> Settings\Application Data\Apple
>>>>> Computer\QuickTime\downloads\11\03\b3201cb8-d5ad5827-ddee54c4-5f28ca37.qtch
>>>>> 91 6 MB \System Volume
>>>>> Information\_restore{B37680B2-BA0A-4E5D-BF30-83E44C588624}\RP520\A0333502.dll
>>>>> 89 354 KB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\Temp\SRTSP_MSI_U_(1)10.1.5.4.log 80 5 MB
>>>>> \Documents and Settings\Amy\Local Settings\Application
>>>>> Data\Microsoft\Media Player\CurrentDatabase_219.wmdb 79
>>>>> 5 MB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Windows.Forms\2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089\System.Windows.Forms.dll
>>>>> 79 5 MB \Program Files\Common
>>>>> Files\Symantec Shared\SymcData\ids-diskless\BinHub\sigs.dat 77
>>>>> 5 MB
>>>>> \WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
>>>>> 77 5 MB \Program Files\Common
>>>>> Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\tmp194.tmp\ESRDEF.BIN 76
>>>>> 9 MB \Documents and Settings\Amy\Application
>>>>> Data\Adobe\Photoshop\7.0\Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Settings\Brushes.psp
>>>>> 61 458 KB \Documents and Settings\Amy\My Documents\New