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I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all here.

During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I want
the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and I
thought it worked but...

I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to this
folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc. to the
new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
Users\Documents" folder was empty.

I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly amazed
and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free space
on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and pictures). I
reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted. Everything
looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb more room.

Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If I
created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%) of
the existing files could not be deleted or modified.

I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and try
and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result is no
change.

I was always logged in as an adminstrator.

I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times) and
never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the files
back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone D
drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights were
made.

What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.

-Jack
 
If you added a new drive to your PC it would have been available to all
users.
(You may have had to enable 'share' if your other users accessed via a
network)

As for how to undo what you have done hopefully someone else will chip in

"VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
>I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all here.
>
> During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
> folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I
> want
> the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and I
> thought it worked but...
>
> I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to this
> folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc. to
> the
> new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
> Users\Documents" folder was empty.
>
> I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly
> amazed
> and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free
> space
> on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and pictures).
> I
> reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted. Everything
> looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb more
> room.
>
> Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If I
> created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%) of
> the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
>
> I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and try
> and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result is
> no
> change.
>
> I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
>
> I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times) and
> never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the files
> back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone D
> drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
> Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights
> were
> made.
>
> What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
>
> -Jack
 
Try this:
How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
>I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all here.
>
> During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
> folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I
> want
> the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and I
> thought it worked but...
>
> I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to this
> folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc. to
> the
> new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
> Users\Documents" folder was empty.
>
> I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly
> amazed
> and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free
> space
> on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and pictures).
> I
> reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted. Everything
> looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb more
> room.
>
> Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If I
> created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%) of
> the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
>
> I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and try
> and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result is
> no
> change.
>
> I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
>
> I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times) and
> never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the files
> back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone D
> drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
> Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights
> were
> made.
>
> What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
>
> -Jack
 
I don't remember the Owner tab... so I think I never got to the right place
to take ownership. I'll give it a try when I get home. Maybe that will do it
-- it sure sounds like an ownership problem so I think it will. I just don't
understand why it did this to begin with...

Thank you.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Try this:
> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
> >I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all here.
> >
> > During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
> > folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I
> > want
> > the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and I
> > thought it worked but...
> >
> > I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to this
> > folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc. to
> > the
> > new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
> > Users\Documents" folder was empty.
> >
> > I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly
> > amazed
> > and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free
> > space
> > on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and pictures).
> > I
> > reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted. Everything
> > looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb more
> > room.
> >
> > Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If I
> > created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%) of
> > the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
> >
> > I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and try
> > and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result is
> > no
> > change.
> >
> > I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
> >
> > I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times) and
> > never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the files
> > back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone D
> > drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
> > Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights
> > were
> > made.
> >
> > What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
> >
> > -Jack
>
>
>
 
I'm not clear on what you did. For instance, you don't add a drive
(partition) to a folder. Right there you lost me. You seem to say that you
moved the files to the new drive, but then you say you partitioned that same
drive after moving the files, before moving them back. Makes no sense to me.
When I first read it, I guessed that you partitioned the new drive, moved
the files there, then reinstalled the system and moved them back. But that
doesn't match what you wrote.

All I know is that when these symptoms appear, the issue is almost certainly
ownership.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6C5B353A-CE4A-4495-B978-D3BDA34C6ABD@microsoft.com...
>I don't remember the Owner tab... so I think I never got to the right place
> to take ownership. I'll give it a try when I get home. Maybe that will do
> it
> -- it sure sounds like an ownership problem so I think it will. I just
> don't
> understand why it did this to begin with...
>
> Thank you.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Try this:
>> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
>> >I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all
>> >here.
>> >
>> > During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
>> > folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I
>> > want
>> > the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and
>> > I
>> > thought it worked but...
>> >
>> > I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to
>> > this
>> > folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc.
>> > to
>> > the
>> > new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
>> > Users\Documents" folder was empty.
>> >
>> > I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly
>> > amazed
>> > and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free
>> > space
>> > on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and
>> > pictures).
>> > I
>> > reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted.
>> > Everything
>> > looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb
>> > more
>> > room.
>> >
>> > Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If
>> > I
>> > created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%)
>> > of
>> > the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
>> >
>> > I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and
>> > try
>> > and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result
>> > is
>> > no
>> > change.
>> >
>> > I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
>> >
>> > I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times)
>> > and
>> > never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the
>> > files
>> > back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone
>> > D
>> > drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
>> > Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights
>> > were
>> > made.
>> >
>> > What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
>> >
>> > -Jack
>>
>>
>>
 
Sorry, I did not clarify this. In disk management, you can assign a drive
letter mount the drive to an empty NTFS folder. That's what I was trying to
do.

Click on Start, right click on my computer, click on manage. When it starts,
click on storage. Right click on a hard drive volume, and click assign drive
letter or path. There you will see the option to mount to an empty NTFS
folder.

Of course, this was a problem for me because my SharedDocs folder ...\All
Users\Documents was not empty. So that's where I had to change the registry
and move the files out, mount the new disk to that old SharedDocs path, reset
the registry, reboot and then move the files back.

Personally, I do not understand why ownership changes, if that's what it is.
I UNDID everything (unmounted the drive) copied all the files back and then I
could delete/edit files just as if nothing had ever happened. I was always
logged in as administrator, so why would moving the files affect ownership?

For now, I'm giving up, moving SharedDocs to D:\ and changing the registry.

Thanks for the help,
-Jack
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> I'm not clear on what you did. For instance, you don't add a drive
> (partition) to a folder. Right there you lost me. You seem to say that you
> moved the files to the new drive, but then you say you partitioned that same
> drive after moving the files, before moving them back. Makes no sense to me.
> When I first read it, I guessed that you partitioned the new drive, moved
> the files there, then reinstalled the system and moved them back. But that
> doesn't match what you wrote.
>
> All I know is that when these symptoms appear, the issue is almost certainly
> ownership.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6C5B353A-CE4A-4495-B978-D3BDA34C6ABD@microsoft.com...
> >I don't remember the Owner tab... so I think I never got to the right place
> > to take ownership. I'll give it a try when I get home. Maybe that will do
> > it
> > -- it sure sounds like an ownership problem so I think it will. I just
> > don't
> > understand why it did this to begin with...
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> Try this:
> >> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
> >> >I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all
> >> >here.
> >> >
> >> > During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an empty
> >> > folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network, I
> >> > want
> >> > the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did, and
> >> > I
> >> > thought it worked but...
> >> >
> >> > I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to
> >> > this
> >> > folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures, etc.
> >> > to
> >> > the
> >> > new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
> >> > Users\Documents" folder was empty.
> >> >
> >> > I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was truly
> >> > amazed
> >> > and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the free
> >> > space
> >> > on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and
> >> > pictures).
> >> > I
> >> > reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted.
> >> > Everything
> >> > looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb
> >> > more
> >> > room.
> >> >
> >> > Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file. If
> >> > I
> >> > created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe 95%)
> >> > of
> >> > the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
> >> >
> >> > I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder and
> >> > try
> >> > and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end result
> >> > is
> >> > no
> >> > change.
> >> >
> >> > I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
> >> >
> >> > I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times)
> >> > and
> >> > never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the
> >> > files
> >> > back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a stand-alone
> >> > D
> >> > drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
> >> > Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files rights
> >> > were
> >> > made.
> >> >
> >> > What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
> >> >
> >> > -Jack
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 
Don't ask me to explain it, I just responded to your symptoms with the first
thing that came to mind. Whether it was on the mark or not, we still don't
know. I know you didn't figure it out, but at least you got them back. As
for mounting volumes to an NTFS folder... Not something I've dabbled in. My
guess is that it's fraught with all kinds of gotchas. Sorry I couldn't be of
more help.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F46C32C1-D20C-4B7B-B267-6DF5B8868C7B@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, I did not clarify this. In disk management, you can assign a drive
> letter mount the drive to an empty NTFS folder. That's what I was trying
> to
> do.
>
> Click on Start, right click on my computer, click on manage. When it
> starts,
> click on storage. Right click on a hard drive volume, and click assign
> drive
> letter or path. There you will see the option to mount to an empty NTFS
> folder.
>
> Of course, this was a problem for me because my SharedDocs folder ...\All
> Users\Documents was not empty. So that's where I had to change the
> registry
> and move the files out, mount the new disk to that old SharedDocs path,
> reset
> the registry, reboot and then move the files back.
>
> Personally, I do not understand why ownership changes, if that's what it
> is.
> I UNDID everything (unmounted the drive) copied all the files back and
> then I
> could delete/edit files just as if nothing had ever happened. I was always
> logged in as administrator, so why would moving the files affect
> ownership?
>
> For now, I'm giving up, moving SharedDocs to D:\ and changing the
> registry.
>
> Thanks for the help,
> -Jack
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> I'm not clear on what you did. For instance, you don't add a drive
>> (partition) to a folder. Right there you lost me. You seem to say that
>> you
>> moved the files to the new drive, but then you say you partitioned that
>> same
>> drive after moving the files, before moving them back. Makes no sense to
>> me.
>> When I first read it, I guessed that you partitioned the new drive, moved
>> the files there, then reinstalled the system and moved them back. But
>> that
>> doesn't match what you wrote.
>>
>> All I know is that when these symptoms appear, the issue is almost
>> certainly
>> ownership.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6C5B353A-CE4A-4495-B978-D3BDA34C6ABD@microsoft.com...
>> >I don't remember the Owner tab... so I think I never got to the right
>> >place
>> > to take ownership. I'll give it a try when I get home. Maybe that will
>> > do
>> > it
>> > -- it sure sounds like an ownership problem so I think it will. I just
>> > don't
>> > understand why it did this to begin with...
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try this:
>> >> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "VistaBlista" <VistaBlista@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:46862F7E-0F46-478D-A021-D093A9E6F6E0@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I bought a new 500gb drive and added it to my PC. No problems at all
>> >> >here.
>> >> >
>> >> > During the process, I noticed that I could attach the drive to an
>> >> > empty
>> >> > folder. Since this machine is the focal point of the family network,
>> >> > I
>> >> > want
>> >> > the addition to be transparent to the users. So here's what I did,
>> >> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> > thought it worked but...
>> >> >
>> >> > I created a new folder, and moved all the files from Shared Docs to
>> >> > this
>> >> > folder. I changed the registry pointers to My Music, My Pictures,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > new folders within this folder. When I was done, my original "All
>> >> > Users\Documents" folder was empty.
>> >> >
>> >> > I then partition the new drive and add it to this folder. I was
>> >> > truly
>> >> > amazed
>> >> > and how cool this was. I moved all I the files back (and watch the
>> >> > free
>> >> > space
>> >> > on my C drive grow by 180gb (lots of digital video, music, and
>> >> > pictures).
>> >> > I
>> >> > reset the registry pointers to the original settings, rebooted.
>> >> > Everything
>> >> > looked great -- everything was back the way it was. Just with 500gb
>> >> > more
>> >> > room.
>> >> >
>> >> > Until I tried to delete a file. I couldn't delete or change a file.
>> >> > If
>> >> > I
>> >> > created a new file, no problem. But nearly all (but not all, maybe
>> >> > 95%)
>> >> > of
>> >> > the existing files could not be deleted or modified.
>> >> >
>> >> > I turn off simple sharing/security and go to the shareddocs folder
>> >> > and
>> >> > try
>> >> > and change the rights for each. It appears to work, but the end
>> >> > result
>> >> > is
>> >> > no
>> >> > change.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was always logged in as an adminstrator.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried the advanced tab to replicate to all, etc. (Many many times)
>> >> > and
>> >> > never had success. I had to get it back working, so I copied all the
>> >> > files
>> >> > back to a another folder, re-partitioned the new drive as a
>> >> > stand-alone
>> >> > D
>> >> > drive, and copied the files back to the original SharedDocs folder.
>> >> > Everything works as it did, so no permanent changes to the files
>> >> > rights
>> >> > were
>> >> > made.
>> >> >
>> >> > What did I do wrong? I'm stumped.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Jack
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
 
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