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Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the right
drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My external is a
lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed. I have a
windows xp disc for the installation.

Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before and it
would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the option of
putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the other
partition. Help please.
 
How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP

Change the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
Then see below:

From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
also: http://www.bootdisk.com/

JS

"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:29FC30B2-1364-4727-9D3F-90DF6EB17449@microsoft.com...
> Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the right
> drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My external is a
> lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
> gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed. I
> have a
> windows xp disc for the installation.
>
> Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before and it
> would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the option
> of
> putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the other
> partition. Help please.
 
I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
Got any suggestion.

"JS" wrote:

> How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
>
> Change the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
> Then see below:
>
> From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
> more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
> and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
> also: http://www.bootdisk.com/
>
> JS
>
> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:29FC30B2-1364-4727-9D3F-90DF6EB17449@microsoft.com...
> > Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the right
> > drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My external is a
> > lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
> > gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed. I
> > have a
> > windows xp disc for the installation.
> >
> > Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before and it
> > would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the option
> > of
> > putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the other
> > partition. Help please.

>
>
>
 
So during the install process at the point where XP asks you to choose a
location and you select the partition where you current version of XP
resides you do not or are not able to delete the partition by pressing the
letter 'D' ?

JS

"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:433C7228-320D-46E7-B46D-84DBB9E6FCD9@microsoft.com...
>I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
> Got any suggestion.
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
>> How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
>>
>> Change the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
>> Then see below:
>>
>> From Michael Steven's:
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>> more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
>> and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
>> also: http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>
>> JS
>>
>> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:29FC30B2-1364-4727-9D3F-90DF6EB17449@microsoft.com...
>> > Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the
>> > right
>> > drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My external
>> > is a
>> > lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
>> > gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed. I
>> > have a
>> > windows xp disc for the installation.
>> >
>> > Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before and
>> > it
>> > would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the
>> > option
>> > of
>> > putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the other
>> > partition. Help please.

>>
>>
>>
 
I press d and it tells me i can not do that. then i have to shut down the
install or repair it. I repaired it once and it removed everything i had so i
had to go back and get everything back that i had and even delete all my
software dis files so i could get updates agian. I am really haveing issues
with this as part of my job in the military is keeping records on external
disc for latter refrence so i need this fixed as soon as possible.

"JS" wrote:

> So during the install process at the point where XP asks you to choose a
> location and you select the partition where you current version of XP
> resides you do not or are not able to delete the partition by pressing the
> letter 'D' ?
>
> JS
>
> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:433C7228-320D-46E7-B46D-84DBB9E6FCD9@microsoft.com...
> >I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
> > Got any suggestion.
> >
> > "JS" wrote:
> >
> >> How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
> >>
> >> Change the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
> >> Then see below:
> >>
> >> From Michael Steven's:
> >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
> >> more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
> >> and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
> >> also: http://www.bootdisk.com/
> >>
> >> JS
> >>
> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:29FC30B2-1364-4727-9D3F-90DF6EB17449@microsoft.com...
> >> > Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the
> >> > right
> >> > drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My external
> >> > is a
> >> > lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
> >> > gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed. I
> >> > have a
> >> > windows xp disc for the installation.
> >> >
> >> > Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before and
> >> > it
> >> > would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the
> >> > option
> >> > of
> >> > putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the other
> >> > partition. Help please.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
gizmoandback wrote:
> I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
> Got any suggestion.


Format the Hard Drive first, then install XP.
 
The only time I've seen this type of problem is when you try do a clean
install with your existing Windows XP actually running, insert the CD and
then try to do the install while Windows is running. Or in other words you
should not boot the PC without first inserting the Windows CD and then boot
the PC from the CD and then start the install process.

JS

"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0CC488EC-3A6D-4FD5-ADDC-DC1BF8F4F039@microsoft.com...
>I press d and it tells me i can not do that. then i have to shut down the
> install or repair it. I repaired it once and it removed everything i had
> so i
> had to go back and get everything back that i had and even delete all my
> software dis files so i could get updates agian. I am really haveing
> issues
> with this as part of my job in the military is keeping records on external
> disc for latter refrence so i need this fixed as soon as possible.
>
> "JS" wrote:
>
>> So during the install process at the point where XP asks you to choose a
>> location and you select the partition where you current version of XP
>> resides you do not or are not able to delete the partition by pressing
>> the
>> letter 'D' ?
>>
>> JS
>>
>> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:433C7228-320D-46E7-B46D-84DBB9E6FCD9@microsoft.com...
>> >I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the
>> >drive.
>> > Got any suggestion.
>> >
>> > "JS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
>> >>
>> >> Change the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
>> >> Then see below:
>> >>
>> >> From Michael Steven's:
>> >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>> >> more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
>> >> and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
>> >> also: http://www.bootdisk.com/
>> >>
>> >> JS
>> >>
>> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:29FC30B2-1364-4727-9D3F-90DF6EB17449@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Need advice on getting ready for a clean install and getting all the
>> >> > right
>> >> > drivers and firmware for my internal and external drives. My
>> >> > external
>> >> > is a
>> >> > lite-on sohw 832s dvd burnner r/rw, my internal is a hl-dt-st rw/dvd
>> >> > gcc-4243n combo drive. I have the other software and drivers needed.
>> >> > I
>> >> > have a
>> >> > windows xp disc for the installation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now here is the problem i have tried to do a fresh install before
>> >> > and
>> >> > it
>> >> > would not let me delete the partition that my os is on. I have the
>> >> > option
>> >> > of
>> >> > putting it on another partion if i do that then can i delete the
>> >> > other
>> >> > partition. Help please.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
How do i do that when i can't even get it to delete the os. Is it part of the
install from the disc or some other procedjure.

"John" wrote:

> gizmoandback wrote:
> > I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
> > Got any suggestion.

>
> Format the Hard Drive first, then install XP.
>
 
gizmoandback wrote:
> How do i do that when i can't even get it to delete the os. Is it part of the
> install from the disc or some other procedjure.
>
> "John" wrote:
>
>> gizmoandback wrote:
>>> I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
>>> Got any suggestion.

>> Format the Hard Drive first, then install XP.
>>


Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want to start.
Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
At the command prompt, type in:

FORMAT C:

Where "C" is letter of your hard drive. When it shows you a message similar to the following:

"WARNING! All data on unremovable drive C: will be lost."

Type 'Y' and press Enter.
When it is finished, type in WIN, and then shut the computer down as you normally would.

*****
This will only work if the OS is functioning properly.
If not, then there is a problem.
 
Ok sounds good but one thing i went into my disk manager and it won't let me
format either so if i follow you way i should be able to get a clean install
on my drive and beable to get things back in order.

"John" wrote:

> gizmoandback wrote:
> > How do i do that when i can't even get it to delete the os. Is it part of the
> > install from the disc or some other procedjure.
> >
> > "John" wrote:
> >
> >> gizmoandback wrote:
> >>> I did that and it still would not let me delete the old os from the drive.
> >>> Got any suggestion.
> >> Format the Hard Drive first, then install XP.
> >>

>
> Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want to start.
> Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> At the command prompt, type in:
>
> FORMAT C:
>
> Where "C" is letter of your hard drive. When it shows you a message similar to the following:
>
> "WARNING! All data on unremovable drive C: will be lost."
>
> Type 'Y' and press Enter.
> When it is finished, type in WIN, and then shut the computer down as you normally would.
>
> *****
> This will only work if the OS is functioning properly.
> If not, then there is a problem.
>
 
John wrote:

> Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want to
> start.
> Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> At the command prompt, type in:
>
> FORMAT C:


That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
installation.

John
 
John John wrote:
> John wrote:
>
> > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
>> Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
>> to start.
>> Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
>> At the command prompt, type in:
>>
>> FORMAT C:

>
> That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
> of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
> the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
> installation.
>
> John



Well, I'm out of ideas.
 
I finally got it to work I took a few but i am up and running now thanks for
all your help it is good to know that there are people out there like you for
people like me.
Now for the next question. How do i get my internal dvd/cd-rom and external
to read dvds. They are trying to read them but they are not loading. I have
realplayer version 11(build 6.0.14.550) distrobution RN40PD and WMP 9. Got
any ideas why they are not reading dvds?

"John" wrote:

> John John wrote:
> > John wrote:
> >
> > > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> >> Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
> >> to start.
> >> Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> >> At the command prompt, type in:
> >>
> >> FORMAT C:

> >
> > That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
> > of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
> > the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
> > installation.
> >
> > John

>
>
> Well, I'm out of ideas.
>
 
Real Player... yuck! The thought makes me shudder...

As you already know, you need a player to read/watch DVD's, if Real
Player cannot play them try Windows Media Player or try another one of
the many available players out there. If other players don't work I
think you should probably start a new thread for this question, it is a
completely different subject than what was being addressed in this
thread and the DVD experts (which I am not!) might not even be reading
this thread because they are thinking it has nothing to do with DVD's.

Tip: Give the subject line in your post a meaningful title, it will
attract more experts or address a target group of helpers. Many experts
and helpers here are busy with all kinds of other things. When they
read these help groups they may be monitoring 20, or even 50 groups! If
they only have an hour or so to pass and read the posts they may skip
over many posts that they deem to not be in their field of expertise, or
they may skip over many posts with vague subject matter. In the case of
the current thread a DVD expert may have looked at it the first time you
posted and decided that it was out of their area of expertise, or that
you were getting good help from other respondents, they may skip over
the posts the next time you post.

If you give your new post a meaningful subject line like: "Cannot
Read/Play DVD Movies" the experts out there will be interested in your
post and they will read and reply if they think that they can offer
helpful advice, the other ones who know little about playing DVD's and
who only have a short bit of time to peruse the groups will be able to
skip the post without your losing potential expert help.

Regards;

John

gizmoandback wrote:

> I finally got it to work I took a few but i am up and running now thanks for
> all your help it is good to know that there are people out there like you for
> people like me.
> Now for the next question. How do i get my internal dvd/cd-rom and external
> to read dvds. They are trying to read them but they are not loading. I have
> realplayer version 11(build 6.0.14.550) distrobution RN40PD and WMP 9. Got
> any ideas why they are not reading dvds?
>
> "John" wrote:
>
>
>>John John wrote:
>>
>>>John wrote:
>>>
>>> > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
>>>
>>>>Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
>>>>to start.
>>>>Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
>>>>At the command prompt, type in:
>>>>
>>>>FORMAT C:
>>>
>>>That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
>>>of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
>>>the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
>>>installation.
>>>
>>>John

>>
>>
>>Well, I'm out of ideas.
>>
 
I know but its the only one that i could afford free. Thanks for the tip and
help.

"John John" wrote:

> Real Player... yuck! The thought makes me shudder...
>
> As you already know, you need a player to read/watch DVD's, if Real
> Player cannot play them try Windows Media Player or try another one of
> the many available players out there. If other players don't work I
> think you should probably start a new thread for this question, it is a
> completely different subject than what was being addressed in this
> thread and the DVD experts (which I am not!) might not even be reading
> this thread because they are thinking it has nothing to do with DVD's.
>
> Tip: Give the subject line in your post a meaningful title, it will
> attract more experts or address a target group of helpers. Many experts
> and helpers here are busy with all kinds of other things. When they
> read these help groups they may be monitoring 20, or even 50 groups! If
> they only have an hour or so to pass and read the posts they may skip
> over many posts that they deem to not be in their field of expertise, or
> they may skip over many posts with vague subject matter. In the case of
> the current thread a DVD expert may have looked at it the first time you
> posted and decided that it was out of their area of expertise, or that
> you were getting good help from other respondents, they may skip over
> the posts the next time you post.
>
> If you give your new post a meaningful subject line like: "Cannot
> Read/Play DVD Movies" the experts out there will be interested in your
> post and they will read and reply if they think that they can offer
> helpful advice, the other ones who know little about playing DVD's and
> who only have a short bit of time to peruse the groups will be able to
> skip the post without your losing potential expert help.
>
> Regards;
>
> John
>
> gizmoandback wrote:
>
> > I finally got it to work I took a few but i am up and running now thanks for
> > all your help it is good to know that there are people out there like you for
> > people like me.
> > Now for the next question. How do i get my internal dvd/cd-rom and external
> > to read dvds. They are trying to read them but they are not loading. I have
> > realplayer version 11(build 6.0.14.550) distrobution RN40PD and WMP 9. Got
> > any ideas why they are not reading dvds?
> >
> > "John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>John John wrote:
> >>
> >>>John wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> >>>
> >>>>Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
> >>>>to start.
> >>>>Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> >>>>At the command prompt, type in:
> >>>>
> >>>>FORMAT C:
> >>>
> >>>That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
> >>>of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
> >>>the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
> >>>installation.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>
> >>
> >>Well, I'm out of ideas.
> >>

>
 
no way it was a clean install
he did a wright over
get rid of his
av program log files sys files hist files same folder
go get ie update 5 6 7 what he had or better
go get windows up dates 84 plus


"John John" wrote:

> Real Player... yuck! The thought makes me shudder...
>
> As you already know, you need a player to read/watch DVD's, if Real
> Player cannot play them try Windows Media Player or try another one of
> the many available players out there. If other players don't work I
> think you should probably start a new thread for this question, it is a
> completely different subject than what was being addressed in this
> thread and the DVD experts (which I am not!) might not even be reading
> this thread because they are thinking it has nothing to do with DVD's.
>
> Tip: Give the subject line in your post a meaningful title, it will
> attract more experts or address a target group of helpers. Many experts
> and helpers here are busy with all kinds of other things. When they
> read these help groups they may be monitoring 20, or even 50 groups! If
> they only have an hour or so to pass and read the posts they may skip
> over many posts that they deem to not be in their field of expertise, or
> they may skip over many posts with vague subject matter. In the case of
> the current thread a DVD expert may have looked at it the first time you
> posted and decided that it was out of their area of expertise, or that
> you were getting good help from other respondents, they may skip over
> the posts the next time you post.
>
> If you give your new post a meaningful subject line like: "Cannot
> Read/Play DVD Movies" the experts out there will be interested in your
> post and they will read and reply if they think that they can offer
> helpful advice, the other ones who know little about playing DVD's and
> who only have a short bit of time to peruse the groups will be able to
> skip the post without your losing potential expert help.
>
> Regards;
>
> John
>
> gizmoandback wrote:
>
> > I finally got it to work I took a few but i am up and running now thanks for
> > all your help it is good to know that there are people out there like you for
> > people like me.
> > Now for the next question. How do i get my internal dvd/cd-rom and external
> > to read dvds. They are trying to read them but they are not loading. I have
> > realplayer version 11(build 6.0.14.550) distrobution RN40PD and WMP 9. Got
> > any ideas why they are not reading dvds?
> >
> > "John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>John John wrote:
> >>
> >>>John wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> >>>
> >>>>Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
> >>>>to start.
> >>>>Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> >>>>At the command prompt, type in:
> >>>>
> >>>>FORMAT C:
> >>>
> >>>That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
> >>>of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
> >>>the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
> >>>installation.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>
> >>
> >>Well, I'm out of ideas.
> >>

>
 
All i can say is this john i am running now and its a lot smother and faster
than it was before. I have a few issues with my internal combo drive and my
external with not reading dvds but thats ok i can live without that part for
now. And yes i have gone and got updates for everything that i had before and
everything is working fine. thanks for the vote of confidence, I may not be
as good with computers but i am good with following directions from people
with the intent of helping me.

"john" wrote:

> no way it was a clean install
> he did a wright over
> get rid of his
> av program log files sys files hist files same folder
> go get ie update 5 6 7 what he had or better
> go get windows up dates 84 plus
>
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
> > Real Player... yuck! The thought makes me shudder...
> >
> > As you already know, you need a player to read/watch DVD's, if Real
> > Player cannot play them try Windows Media Player or try another one of
> > the many available players out there. If other players don't work I
> > think you should probably start a new thread for this question, it is a
> > completely different subject than what was being addressed in this
> > thread and the DVD experts (which I am not!) might not even be reading
> > this thread because they are thinking it has nothing to do with DVD's.
> >
> > Tip: Give the subject line in your post a meaningful title, it will
> > attract more experts or address a target group of helpers. Many experts
> > and helpers here are busy with all kinds of other things. When they
> > read these help groups they may be monitoring 20, or even 50 groups! If
> > they only have an hour or so to pass and read the posts they may skip
> > over many posts that they deem to not be in their field of expertise, or
> > they may skip over many posts with vague subject matter. In the case of
> > the current thread a DVD expert may have looked at it the first time you
> > posted and decided that it was out of their area of expertise, or that
> > you were getting good help from other respondents, they may skip over
> > the posts the next time you post.
> >
> > If you give your new post a meaningful subject line like: "Cannot
> > Read/Play DVD Movies" the experts out there will be interested in your
> > post and they will read and reply if they think that they can offer
> > helpful advice, the other ones who know little about playing DVD's and
> > who only have a short bit of time to peruse the groups will be able to
> > skip the post without your losing potential expert help.
> >
> > Regards;
> >
> > John
> >
> > gizmoandback wrote:
> >
> > > I finally got it to work I took a few but i am up and running now thanks for
> > > all your help it is good to know that there are people out there like you for
> > > people like me.
> > > Now for the next question. How do i get my internal dvd/cd-rom and external
> > > to read dvds. They are trying to read them but they are not loading. I have
> > > realplayer version 11(build 6.0.14.550) distrobution RN40PD and WMP 9. Got
> > > any ideas why they are not reading dvds?
> > >
> > > "John" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>John John wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>John wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Start your computer and tap F8 before boot logo.
> > >>>
> > >>>>Select 'Command Prompt' and then press Enter. Choose the OS you want
> > >>>>to start.
> > >>>>Login to Windows XP as an administrator.
> > >>>>At the command prompt, type in:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>FORMAT C:
> > >>>
> > >>>That will not work, John. You cannot format the System or Boot volumes
> > >>>of the Windows installation onto which you are logged on. Using any of
> > >>>the boot option by tapping the F8 key will log you on to the Windows
> > >>>installation.
> > >>>
> > >>>John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Well, I'm out of ideas.
> > >>

> >
 
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