My HP Pavilion Q8200 scores low

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My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared



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MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

points.

HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

Any ideas here???
 
Ritter197 wrote:

> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same

> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

> points.

> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> Any ideas here???




Here's an idea.. post where you got this "score".



--

Joe =o)
 
"Ritter197" wrote in message

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> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

> points.

> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> Any ideas here???

>

>




Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost

http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

--

SC Tom



"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
I got this score from Pass Mark Performance Test 7.0



"Elmo" wrote in message

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> Ritter197 wrote:

>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>>

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>>

>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same

>> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

>> points.

>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

>> Any ideas here???


>

> Here's an idea.. post where you got this "score".

>

> --

> Joe =o)
 
OK, noted. Thanks.



"SC Tom" wrote in message

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>

> "Ritter197" wrote in message

> news:O5tqHLr1KHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>>

>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

>> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

>> points.

>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

>> Any ideas here???

>>

>>


>

> Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost

> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> --

> SC Tom

>

> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

>
 
Compare any two pc cpu specs isnt saying much.Unless they are identical,

pc speed tests will always be diffrent,one pc may run SATA/RAID,data transfer

will outperform any single IDE or single SATA hd,plus many other factors.Even

the settings with a page file will change CPU speed,8 or 20MB of ram would'nt

matter.One other item,hp & dell,usually install the wimpiest hardware they

can get away with...



"Ritter197" wrote:



> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

> points.

> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> Any ideas here???

>

>

> .

>
 
On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" wrote:

> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

>

> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

> points.

> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> Any ideas here???




hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:



any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?



Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a

factor of two. Right?
 
On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy wrote:

> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" wrote:

>

> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared


>

> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----


>

> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

> > points.

> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> > Any ideas here???


>

> hardware or software?  just a shot in the dark:

>

> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?

>

> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a

> factor of two.  Right?




I meant one bus cycle
 
I used to play the benchmark game years ago, and for the most part, all it

did was frustrate me. "Why isn't my 486 as fast another identical 486?"

Well, there are hundreds of reasons (or more) of why not. Different

revisions of CPU's, motherboards, add-in cards, etc. will cause a wider

difference in scores than one would think. Different RAM manufacturers (and

sometimes the same manufacturers since they get their chips from different

makers who have different plants, etc.) will cause a difference, even though

the RAM is rated the same. All those little differences add up to create a

slower or faster bottom line.



When I was working, we'd get a number of PC's in that were supposed to be

the same. Most times, they even had sequential serial numbers. Invariably,

there would be one or two out of the dozen or so that we got at a time that

were noticeably slower than the rest. Same CPU, HDD, CD, RAM, MB, software,

etc. But without even using a benchmark program, you could tell this one

wasn't up to par.



For grins and giggles, I ran PT7 and compared my system to similar ones.

Comparing CPU's, mine was on a par with or slower than other AMD Athlon 64

X2 Dual Core 4800+ CPU's. Overall scores were slightly higher than similar

systems with the same MB, but not enough to brag about.

Some of the test results available for comparison were so wildly different,

I'd like to see how the systems were set up. When two supposedly identical

systems have a 1000 point difference, how can you verify the validity of the

testing procedure or the tester? In fact, re-running the test within the

hour got me a 50 point difference from the previous results.



The bottom line is that benchmark programs really don't mean anything. If

your PC makes you happy, and runs the stuff you want it to run in a manner

you'd like it to run, then your PC is plenty fast. If you're having problems

with some program, then it's time to delve into the reasons why that may be.

--

SC Tom



"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.



"Ritter197" wrote in message

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> OK, noted. Thanks.

>

> "SC Tom" wrote in message

> news:Oy43n1r1KHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Ritter197" wrote in message

>> news:O5tqHLr1KHA.776@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>>>

>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>

>>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

>>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

>>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

>>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same

>>> CPU, same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and

>>> higher.

>>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

>>> points.

>>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

>>> Any ideas here???

>>>

>>>


>>

>> Here's another idea: Crosspost, do not multipost

>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> --

>> SC Tom

>>

>> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

>> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

>> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

>>
 
The CPU scores always low. The memory scores high with 8 GB RAM.

I compare it to other CPUs in the worldwide database with same CPU and same

Graphics cards, and it always the CPU that scores low on mine and high on

the other. Always.



"Robert Macy" wrote in message

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> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" wrote:

>> My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared

>>

>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

>>

>> MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other CPUs,

>> same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

>> Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

>> My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same CPU,

>> same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

>> I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced Restore

>> points.

>> HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

>> Any ideas here???


>

> hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:

>

> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?

>

> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a

> factor of two. Right?
 
How can I check the 1 bus cycle???



"Robert Macy" wrote in message

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> On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy wrote:

>> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" wrote:

>>

>> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared


>>

>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----


>>

>> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other

>> > CPUs,

>> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

>> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

>> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same

>> > CPU,

>> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

>> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced

>> > Restore

>> > points.

>> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

>> > Any ideas here???


>>

>> hardware or software? just a shot in the dark:

>>

>> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?

>>

>> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a

>> factor of two. Right?


>

> I meant one bus cycle
 


> The bottom line is that benchmark programs really don't mean anything.

> If your PC makes you happy, and runs the stuff you want it to run in a

> manner you'd like it to run, then your PC is plenty fast. If you're

> having problems with some program, then it's time to delve into the

> reasons why that may be.






Couldnt have said it better myself Its a shame when ppl are too

fussed to 'know' (most dont) how their PC rates etc, as opposed to

simply sitting back and enjoying what they got.

I use a comp everyday, and it serves me well, and sure as heck aint

running win7 or its two priors.



2bobs worth. (anyone lend me two bob?)
 
On Apr 8, 10:40 am, "Ritter197" wrote:

> How can I check the 1 bus cycle???

>

> "Robert Macy" wrote in message

>

> news:e647782e-84c3-4785-924f-80d70ffe901a@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

> > On Apr 8, 1:02 am, Robert Macy wrote:

> >> On Apr 7, 5:31 pm, "Ritter197" wrote:


>

> >> > My HP Pavilion Q8200, 8GB RAM, WIN7 scores low compared


>

> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­-----


>

> >> > MY HP Pavilion Intel CPU Q8200 scores low when compared with other

> >> > CPUs,

> >> > same Q8200, same RAM (8GB or less) same Graphics Express NVDIA 9400GT,

> >> > Windows 7, no applications loaded other than ESET NOD32 AV.

> >> > My HP gets only a score of 691 whereas a worldwide database for same

> >> > CPU,

> >> > same RAM, same Graphics card gets 1220, 1144, 1191, 1291 and higher.

> >> > I have deleted all cookies, de-fragmented my hard drive, reduced

> >> > Restore

> >> > points.

> >> > HP support is poor and spending 1 hour with them is useless.

> >> > Any ideas here???


>

> >> hardware or software?  just a shot in the dark:


>

> >> any chance your RAM is too slow and has a 'wait' state in there?


>

> >> Skipping one clock cycle would definitely slow you down by almost a

> >> factor of two.  Right?


>

> > I meant one bus cycle




I use a Logic Analyzer.



I'm out of my league now. with regard to whether a wait state is

inserted because it was sensed [meaning the RAM, etc is too slow] or

whether it is put in by software. Anybody know out there?
 
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