Windows 2003 MS Server apps not launching

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Ian

Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
1) Any administrative tools
2) Event viewer
3) Services viewer
4) ISA Management

Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work fine.
 
Hi Ian,

We are going to need abit more info.
Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started
occuring?
Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started
occuring?
Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors
would really help us.
If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online scanner
such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with
your hard drive.

Coraleigh Miller



"Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> 1) Any administrative tools
> 2) Event viewer
> 3) Services viewer
> 4) ISA Management
>
> Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
> persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work
> fine.
 
Thanks for the response...
This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has
been added for weeks.
I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including
event viewer.
I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.

Ideas?

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> We are going to need abit more info.
> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started
> occuring?
> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue started
> occuring?
> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log errors
> would really help us.
> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online scanner
> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with
> your hard drive.
>
> Coraleigh Miller
>
>
>
> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> > 1) Any administrative tools
> > 2) Event viewer
> > 3) Services viewer
> > 4) ISA Management
> >
> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work
> > fine.

>
>
>
 
Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of
these mcs?

You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another
machine's
Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as
Domain Admin right-click
MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and
select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem
server.)
Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc,
Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and
that you can run them directly from there.

Coraleigh

"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the response...
> This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has
> been added for weeks.
> I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including
> event viewer.
> I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>
> Ideas?
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> We are going to need abit more info.
>> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started
>> occuring?
>> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>> started
>> occuring?
>> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log
>> errors
>> would really help us.
>> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
>> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
>> scanner
>> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with
>> your hard drive.
>>
>> Coraleigh Miller
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> > 2) Event viewer
>> > 3) Services viewer
>> > 4) ISA Management
>> >
>> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
>> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work
>> > fine.

>>
>>
>>
 
There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse
cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32
folder. They won't run from there either.

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of
> these mcs?
>
> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another
> machine's
> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on as
> Domain Admin right-click
> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and
> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your problem
> server.)
> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc,
> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and
> that you can run them directly from there.
>
> Coraleigh
>
> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for the response...
> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software has
> > been added for weeks.
> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps, including
> > event viewer.
> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ian,
> >>
> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues started
> >> occuring?
> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> >> started
> >> occuring?
> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log
> >> errors
> >> would really help us.
> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
> >> scanner
> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems with
> >> your hard drive.
> >>
> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >> >
> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager work
> >> > fine.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able
to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event
Viewer).

You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
For Windows 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en

For Windows 2003 SP1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en



Coraleigh

"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse
> cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32
> folder. They won't run from there either.
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of
>> these mcs?
>>
>> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another
>> machine's
>> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on
>> as
>> Domain Admin right-click
>> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and
>> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
>> problem
>> server.)
>> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc,
>> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and
>> that you can run them directly from there.
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the response...
>> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
>> > has
>> > been added for weeks.
>> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>> > including
>> > event viewer.
>> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >
>> > Ideas?
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Ian,
>> >>
>> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>> >> started
>> >> occuring?
>> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>> >> started
>> >> occuring?
>> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log
>> >> errors
>> >> would really help us.
>> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
>> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
>> >> scanner
>> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems
>> >> with
>> >> your hard drive.
>> >>
>> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >
>> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
>> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
>> >> > work
>> >> > fine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the problem.

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able
> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event
> Viewer).
>
> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> For Windows 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>
> For Windows 2003 SP1
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>
>
>
> Coraleigh
>
> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse
> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32
> > folder. They won't run from there either.
> >
> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >
> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of
> >> these mcs?
> >>
> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another
> >> machine's
> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on
> >> as
> >> Domain Admin right-click
> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and
> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
> >> problem
> >> server.)
> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc,
> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and
> >> that you can run them directly from there.
> >>
> >> Coraleigh
> >>
> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for the response...
> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
> >> > has
> >> > been added for weeks.
> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
> >> > including
> >> > event viewer.
> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >> >
> >> > Ideas?
> >> >
> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Ian,
> >> >>
> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> >> >> started
> >> >> occuring?
> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> >> >> started
> >> >> occuring?
> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log
> >> >> errors
> >> >> would really help us.
> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
> >> >> scanner
> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems
> >> >> with
> >> >> your hard drive.
> >> >>
> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > fine.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en

Coraleigh


"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
> problem.
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
>> able
>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> Viewer).
>>
>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> For Windows 2003
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>>
>>
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
>> > mouse
>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> > system32
>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
>> >> of
>> >> these mcs?
>> >>
>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >> another
>> >> machine's
>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
>> >> on
>> >> as
>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
>> >> and
>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
>> >> problem
>> >> server.)
>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
>> >> and
>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >>
>> >> Coraleigh
>> >>
>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
>> >> > has
>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>> >> > including
>> >> > event viewer.
>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> errors
>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
>> >> >> tried
>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
>> >> >> scanner
>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >> >> problems
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
>> >> >> > work
>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions
if you run into issues installing...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265



"Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
>
> Coraleigh
>
>
> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
>> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
>> problem.
>>
>> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>>
>>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
>>> able
>>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>>> Viewer).
>>>
>>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>>> For Windows 2003
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>>>
>>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Coraleigh
>>>
>>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
>>> > mouse
>>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
>>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
>>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
>>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>>> > system32
>>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>>> >
>>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
>>> >> of
>>> >> these mcs?
>>> >>
>>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>>> >> another
>>> >> machine's
>>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
>>> >> on
>>> >> as
>>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
>>> >> and
>>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
>>> >> problem
>>> >> server.)
>>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
>>> >> and
>>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>>> >>
>>> >> Coraleigh
>>> >>
>>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
>>> >> > software
>>> >> > has
>>> >> > been added for weeks.
>>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>>> >> > including
>>> >> > event viewer.
>>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Ideas?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>>> >> >> started
>>> >> >> occuring?
>>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>>> >> >> started
>>> >> >> occuring?
>>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
>>> >> >> log
>>> >> >> errors
>>> >> >> would really help us.
>>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
>>> >> >> tried
>>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
>>> >> >> online
>>> >> >> scanner
>>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>>> >> >> problems
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> your hard drive.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
>>> >> >> > problem
>>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
>>> >> >> > work
>>> >> >> > fine.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>
 
MMC won't open at all. I'm running 2003SP2, but since I can't locate a copy
of adminpak.msi for SP2, I tried using the SP1 version.

When I try to install it, the installation seems to get hung up just before
it completes "Validating installer". I tried to remove the previous admin
tools, but they are not listed in the "Add/Remove Programs" or "Add/Remove
Windows Components: anywhere.

Got any more ideas? Thanks for your help here, btw!

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you able
> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove Snap-in->Add->Event
> Viewer).
>
> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> For Windows 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>
> For Windows 2003 SP1
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>
>
>
> Coraleigh
>
> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The mouse
> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the system32
> > folder. They won't run from there either.
> >
> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >
> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one of
> >> these mcs?
> >>
> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through another
> >> machine's
> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged on
> >> as
> >> Domain Admin right-click
> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local) and
> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
> >> problem
> >> server.)
> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your Eventvwr.msc,
> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder and
> >> that you can run them directly from there.
> >>
> >> Coraleigh
> >>
> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for the response...
> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
> >> > has
> >> > been added for weeks.
> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
> >> > including
> >> > event viewer.
> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >> >
> >> > Ideas?
> >> >
> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Ian,
> >> >>
> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> >> >> started
> >> >> occuring?
> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> >> >> started
> >> >> occuring?
> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event log
> >> >> errors
> >> >> would really help us.
> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you tried
> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
> >> >> scanner
> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any problems
> >> >> with
> >> >> your hard drive.
> >> >>
> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and problem
> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > fine.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
Did you also try and install the MMC (not the adminpak) from my last post?
Have any issues with installing it?


"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:317E51F0-0D7A-4BA9-B2DA-FE757C15086F@microsoft.com...
> MMC won't open at all. I'm running 2003SP2, but since I can't locate a
> copy
> of adminpak.msi for SP2, I tried using the SP1 version.
>
> When I try to install it, the installation seems to get hung up just
> before
> it completes "Validating installer". I tried to remove the previous admin
> tools, but they are not listed in the "Add/Remove Programs" or "Add/Remove
> Windows Components: anywhere.
>
> Got any more ideas? Thanks for your help here, btw!
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
>> able
>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> Viewer).
>>
>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> For Windows 2003
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>>
>>
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
>> > mouse
>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> > system32
>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
>> >> of
>> >> these mcs?
>> >>
>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >> another
>> >> machine's
>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
>> >> on
>> >> as
>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
>> >> and
>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
>> >> problem
>> >> server.)
>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
>> >> and
>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >>
>> >> Coraleigh
>> >>
>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
>> >> > has
>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>> >> > including
>> >> > event viewer.
>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> errors
>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
>> >> >> tried
>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
>> >> >> scanner
>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >> >> problems
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
>> >> >> > work
>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
Also you could try and run a repair via add/remove programs, on your .NET
Framework 3.0. If that doesnt fix it you can try a repair on your MSXML.

Coraleigh


"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:317E51F0-0D7A-4BA9-B2DA-FE757C15086F@microsoft.com...
> MMC won't open at all. I'm running 2003SP2, but since I can't locate a
> copy
> of adminpak.msi for SP2, I tried using the SP1 version.
>
> When I try to install it, the installation seems to get hung up just
> before
> it completes "Validating installer". I tried to remove the previous admin
> tools, but they are not listed in the "Add/Remove Programs" or "Add/Remove
> Windows Components: anywhere.
>
> Got any more ideas? Thanks for your help here, btw!
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
>> able
>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> Viewer).
>>
>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> For Windows 2003
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>>
>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>>
>>
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
>> > mouse
>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> > system32
>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
>> >> of
>> >> these mcs?
>> >>
>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >> another
>> >> machine's
>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
>> >> on
>> >> as
>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
>> >> and
>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
>> >> problem
>> >> server.)
>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
>> >> and
>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >>
>> >> Coraleigh
>> >>
>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or software
>> >> > has
>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>> >> > including
>> >> > event viewer.
>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ideas?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
>> >> >> started
>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> errors
>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
>> >> >> tried
>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an online
>> >> >> scanner
>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >> >> problems
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
>> >> >> > work
>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
I have already tried installing MMC v3.0. However, it popped an error saying
that the version already installed was higher than the one downloaded. So
instead, I'm reinstalling the entire SP2, since MMC is included in that.
If that won't work, then I'll edit the reg to change the registered version
of MMC, so that the downloaded one will install.

I'll let you know what happens...


"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions
> if you run into issues installing...
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
>
>
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
> >
> > Coraleigh
> >
> >
> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
> >>> able
> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
> >>> Viewer).
> >>>
> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> >>> For Windows 2003
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
> >>>
> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Coraleigh
> >>>
> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
> >>> > mouse
> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
> >>> > system32
> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> these mcs?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
> >>> >> another
> >>> >> machine's
> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> as
> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
> >>> >> problem
> >>> >> server.)
> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Coraleigh
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
> >>> >> > software
> >>> >> > has
> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
> >>> >> > including
> >>> >> > event viewer.
> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Ideas?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> >>> >> >> started
> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> >>> >> >> started
> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
> >>> >> >> log
> >>> >> >> errors
> >>> >> >> would really help us.
> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
> >>> >> >> tried
> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
> >>> >> >> online
> >>> >> >> scanner
> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
> >>> >> >> problems
> >>> >> >> with
> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
> >>> >> >> > problem
> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
> >>> >> >> > work
> >>> >> >> > fine.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >

>
>
>
 
Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the
MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is
newer and won't install the downloaded version.
I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there
any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one?


"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions
> if you run into issues installing...
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
>
>
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
> >
> > Coraleigh
> >
> >
> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
> >>> able
> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
> >>> Viewer).
> >>>
> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> >>> For Windows 2003
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
> >>>
> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Coraleigh
> >>>
> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
> >>> > mouse
> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
> >>> > system32
> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
> >>> >
> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run one
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> these mcs?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
> >>> >> another
> >>> >> machine's
> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> as
> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
> >>> >> problem
> >>> >> server.)
> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Coraleigh
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
> >>> >> > software
> >>> >> > has
> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
> >>> >> > including
> >>> >> > event viewer.
> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Ideas?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> >>> >> >> started
> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> >>> >> >> started
> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
> >>> >> >> log
> >>> >> >> errors
> >>> >> >> would really help us.
> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
> >>> >> >> tried
> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
> >>> >> >> online
> >>> >> >> scanner
> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
> >>> >> >> problems
> >>> >> >> with
> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
> >>> >> >> > problem
> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
> >>> >> >> > work
> >>> >> >> > fine.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >

>
>
>
 
I am running into the exact same issue here with our 2003 Server R2
Enterprise box. Rebooted, ran SFC with no luck. MMC will not open
nor will any .msc modules. If you find a fix, please post back here
and I will do the same.

On Aug 17, 11:30 am, XraySpecs <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting the
> MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version is
> newer andwon'tinstall the downloaded version.
> I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there
> any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded one?
>
>
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> > Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers solutions
> > if youruninto issues installing...
> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265

>
> > "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4c84f80b-908...

>
> > > Coraleigh

>
> > > "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
> > >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
> > >> problem.

>
> > >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

>
> > >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are you
> > >>> able
> > >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
> > >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
> > >>> Viewer).

>
> > >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> > >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> > >>> For Windows 2003
> > >>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c16ae515-c8f...

>
> > >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
> > >>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e487f885-f0c...

>
> > >>> Coraleigh

>
> > >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> > >>> > There are no errors that pop when yourunone of these mcs's. The
> > >>> > mouse
> > >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> > >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> > >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> > >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
> > >>> > system32
> > >>> > folder. Theywon'trunfrom there either.

>
> > >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

>
> > >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try andrunone
> > >>> >> of
> > >>> >> these mcs?

>
> > >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
> > >>> >> another
> > >>> >> machine's
> > >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues. (Logged
> > >>> >> on
> > >>> >> as
> > >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
> > >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management (Local)
> > >>> >> and
> > >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of your
> > >>> >> problem
> > >>> >>server.)
> > >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
> > >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
> > >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32 folder
> > >>> >> and
> > >>> >> that you canrunthem directly from there.

>
> > >>> >> Coraleigh

>
> > >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySp...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>> >>news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> > >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
> > >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
> > >>> >> > software
> > >>> >> > has
> > >>> >> > been added for weeks.
> > >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could notrunany of the listed apps,
> > >>> >> > including
> > >>> >> > event viewer.
> > >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> > >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.

>
> > >>> >> > Ideas?

>
> > >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

>
> > >>> >> >> Hi Ian,

>
> > >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> > >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> > >>> >> >> started
> > >>> >> >> occuring?
> > >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your issue
> > >>> >> >> started
> > >>> >> >> occuring?
> > >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode? ..event
> > >>> >> >> log
> > >>> >> >> errors
> > >>> >> >> would really help us.
> > >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
> > >>> >> >> tried
> > >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> > >>> >> >> You should probablyrunan antivirus scan on yourserver, an
> > >>> >> >> online
> > >>> >> >> scanner
> > >>> >> >> such ashttp://housecall.trendmicro.com/is a good one.
> > >>> >> >> You might also want toruna chkdsk to see if there are any
> > >>> >> >> problems
> > >>> >> >> with
> > >>> >> >> your hard drive.

>
> > >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller

>
> > >>> >> >> "Ian" <I...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>> >> >>news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> > >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain appswon'tlaunch:
> > >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> > >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> > >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> > >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management

>
> > >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
> > >>> >> >> > problem
> > >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise Manager
> > >>> >> >> > work
> > >>> >> >> > fine.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
-Update-

I was able to install MMC 3 and it seems to have corrected the
problem. The box I was working on did not have 3 installed initially.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi XraySpecs,

Try this...

From Microsoft...
"
Conflicts that occur with previous installations
Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly
by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might
require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee
that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.

This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC
installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer,
remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this, follow
these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32
3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for
the 3.0.0.0 entry.
4.On the File menu, click Exit.
"

Coraleigh

"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E73A0F68-3EE1-463C-A135-5DD987F2D6EC@microsoft.com...
> Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting
> the
> MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version
> is
> newer and won't install the downloaded version.
> I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there
> any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded
> one?
>
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers
>> solutions
>> if you run into issues installing...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
>>
>>
>>
>> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
>> >
>> > Coraleigh
>> >
>> >
>> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
>> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
>> >> problem.
>> >>
>> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are
>> >>> you
>> >>> able
>> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> >>> Viewer).
>> >>>
>> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> >>> For Windows 2003
>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>> >>>
>> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Coraleigh
>> >>>
>> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
>> >>> > mouse
>> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
>> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
>> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
>> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> >>> > system32
>> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run
>> >>> >> one
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> these mcs?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >>> >> another
>> >>> >> machine's
>> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues.
>> >>> >> (Logged
>> >>> >> on
>> >>> >> as
>> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management
>> >>> >> (Local)
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of
>> >>> >> your
>> >>> >> problem
>> >>> >> server.)
>> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32
>> >>> >> folder
>> >>> >> and
>> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Coraleigh
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
>> >>> >> > software
>> >>> >> > has
>> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
>> >>> >> > including
>> >>> >> > event viewer.
>> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Ideas?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
>> >>> >> >> started
>> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your
>> >>> >> >> issue
>> >>> >> >> started
>> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode?
>> >>> >> >> ..event
>> >>> >> >> log
>> >>> >> >> errors
>> >>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
>> >>> >> >> tried
>> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
>> >>> >> >> online
>> >>> >> >> scanner
>> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >>> >> >> problems
>> >>> >> >> with
>> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
>> >>> >> >> > problem
>> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise
>> >>> >> >> > Manager
>> >>> >> >> > work
>> >>> >> >> > fine.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>
 
Tried that, and I still get the version error even after deleting the reg
entries. That seems to be more for the snapins than the main console.

I've run out of ideas, do you have any more?

"Coraleigh Miller" wrote:

> Hi XraySpecs,
>
> Try this...
>
> From Microsoft...
> "
> Conflicts that occur with previous installations
> Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly
> by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might
> require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee
> that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.
>
> This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC
> installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer,
> remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this, follow
> these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
> 2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey:
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32
> 3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for
> the 3.0.0.0 entry.
> 4.On the File menu, click Exit.
> "
>
> Coraleigh
>
> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E73A0F68-3EE1-463C-A135-5DD987F2D6EC@microsoft.com...
> > Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting
> > the
> > MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP version
> > is
> > newer and won't install the downloaded version.
> > I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is there
> > any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the downloaded
> > one?
> >
> >
> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >
> >> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers
> >> solutions
> >> if you run into issues installing...
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
> >> >
> >> > Coraleigh
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
> >> >> problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does are
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> able
> >> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
> >> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
> >> >>> Viewer).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
> >> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
> >> >>> For Windows 2003
> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Coraleigh
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's. The
> >> >>> > mouse
> >> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing starts.
> >> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no errors
> >> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the logs.
> >> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
> >> >>> > system32
> >> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and run
> >> >>> >> one
> >> >>> >> of
> >> >>> >> these mcs?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
> >> >>> >> another
> >> >>> >> machine's
> >> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues.
> >> >>> >> (Logged
> >> >>> >> on
> >> >>> >> as
> >> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
> >> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management
> >> >>> >> (Local)
> >> >>> >> and
> >> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of
> >> >>> >> your
> >> >>> >> problem
> >> >>> >> server.)
> >> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
> >> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
> >> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32
> >> >>> >> folder
> >> >>> >> and
> >> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Coraleigh
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
> >> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
> >> >>> >> > software
> >> >>> >> > has
> >> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
> >> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed apps,
> >> >>> >> > including
> >> >>> >> > event viewer.
> >> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
> >> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Ideas?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
> >> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the issues
> >> >>> >> >> started
> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your
> >> >>> >> >> issue
> >> >>> >> >> started
> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
> >> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode?
> >> >>> >> >> ..event
> >> >>> >> >> log
> >> >>> >> >> errors
> >> >>> >> >> would really help us.
> >> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have you
> >> >>> >> >> tried
> >> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
> >> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
> >> >>> >> >> online
> >> >>> >> >> scanner
> >> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
> >> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
> >> >>> >> >> problems
> >> >>> >> >> with
> >> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
> >> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
> >> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
> >> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
> >> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
> >> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
> >> >>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot and
> >> >>> >> >> > problem
> >> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise
> >> >>> >> >> > Manager
> >> >>> >> >> > work
> >> >>> >> >> > fine.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>
 
Well i couldnt find any ways to uninstall the MMC, so well if youve already
also tried reinstalling the .Net Framework from that link i sent, and you
did try deleting the registry entries including the 3.0 one.. then we are
down to the nitty gritty...

We could try manually replacing some of the MMC files from the SP2 file.
Start with replacing the MMC.exe as this will be the easiest..unfortunatly
im unable to find an article which lists the MMC files that have changed
with SP2, there is this list however from the MMC 3.0
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265 .

For extracting your SP2 files:
From a command prompt type:
C:\WindowsServer2003-KB914961-SP2-x86-ENU.exe /extract
(substituting of course the C:\ with where ever your service pack 2 is
located)

It will ask you where you wish to extract to and then you can go into the
i386 folder and copy the MMC.exe out of there and paste it into your
system32 folder.

For replacing the dll's:
You will probably need to unregister the old dlls and then register the new
ones.
From a command prompt type:
REGSVR32 /u C:\system32\mmc30.dll
REGSVR32 C:\system32\mmc30.dll

I came across this quick way to register and unregister files you may want
to try, from another forum
http://forums.devx.com/archive/index.php/t-58647.html...
"Right click on the Regsvr32.dll
and choose 'Create Shortcut'. After the shortcut is made put it into the
%windows%\Send To folder. Repeat the process so you have two shortcuts in
the Send To folder then add a /u in the Target path of one of them. Change
the name of the one you justed edited to "Unregister DLL" and change the
other shortcut name to "Register DLL". Now all you have to do is right
click on a .dll or .ocx and select Register DLL or Unregister DLL from the
Send To popup menu.
"
You may need to reboot your server after, due to the changes made to your
registry.
And of course make sure you have a backup of your registry and files before
trying any of this.


Coraleigh Miller


"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D998AA4-2684-42CE-BB31-FCE944FC1260@microsoft.com...
> Tried that, and I still get the version error even after deleting the reg
> entries. That seems to be more for the snapins than the main console.
>
> I've run out of ideas, do you have any more?
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Hi XraySpecs,
>>
>> Try this...
>>
>> From Microsoft...
>> "
>> Conflicts that occur with previous installations
>> Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry
>> incorrectly
>> by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might
>> require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot
>> guarantee
>> that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.
>>
>> This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC
>> installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer,
>> remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this,
>> follow
>> these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
>> 2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey:
>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32
>> 3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for
>> the 3.0.0.0 entry.
>> 4.On the File menu, click Exit.
>> "
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E73A0F68-3EE1-463C-A135-5DD987F2D6EC@microsoft.com...
>> > Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting
>> > the
>> > MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP
>> > version
>> > is
>> > newer and won't install the downloaded version.
>> > I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is
>> > there
>> > any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the
>> > downloaded
>> > one?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers
>> >> solutions
>> >> if you run into issues installing...
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >
>> >> > Coraleigh
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does
>> >> >>> are
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> able
>> >> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> >> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> >> >>> Viewer).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> >> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> >> >>> For Windows 2003
>> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Coraleigh
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's.
>> >> >>> > The
>> >> >>> > mouse
>> >> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing
>> >> >>> > starts.
>> >> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no
>> >> >>> > errors
>> >> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the
>> >> >>> > logs.
>> >> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> >> >>> > system32
>> >> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and
>> >> >>> >> run
>> >> >>> >> one
>> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> these mcs?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >> >>> >> another
>> >> >>> >> machine's
>> >> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues.
>> >> >>> >> (Logged
>> >> >>> >> on
>> >> >>> >> as
>> >> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management
>> >> >>> >> (Local)
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of
>> >> >>> >> your
>> >> >>> >> problem
>> >> >>> >> server.)
>> >> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32
>> >> >>> >> folder
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Coraleigh
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> >> message
>> >> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
>> >> >>> >> > software
>> >> >>> >> > has
>> >> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed
>> >> >>> >> > apps,
>> >> >>> >> > including
>> >> >>> >> > event viewer.
>> >> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Ideas?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the
>> >> >>> >> >> issues
>> >> >>> >> >> started
>> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your
>> >> >>> >> >> issue
>> >> >>> >> >> started
>> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode?
>> >> >>> >> >> ..event
>> >> >>> >> >> log
>> >> >>> >> >> errors
>> >> >>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have
>> >> >>> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> tried
>> >> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
>> >> >>> >> >> online
>> >> >>> >> >> scanner
>> >> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >> >>> >> >> problems
>> >> >>> >> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot
>> >> >>> >> >> > and
>> >> >>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >> > Manager
>> >> >>> >> >> > work
>> >> >>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
You could also try using Microsoft's Process Monitor
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processmonitor.mspx
This will help to show what files are being launched when you start up your
mmc. And it might give us abit more info.

When you go to use it make sure that all other programs are closed, as it
will be easier to see our data this way, and then press the clear button at
the top and then launch your mmc, then press the capture button again which
will halt the process explorer allowing you to view the info. For viewing
the file names it might be easier to have only the "Show file system
activity" button at the top pressed.

Coraleigh


"XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2D998AA4-2684-42CE-BB31-FCE944FC1260@microsoft.com...
> Tried that, and I still get the version error even after deleting the reg
> entries. That seems to be more for the snapins than the main console.
>
> I've run out of ideas, do you have any more?
>
> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>
>> Hi XraySpecs,
>>
>> Try this...
>>
>> From Microsoft...
>> "
>> Conflicts that occur with previous installations
>> Warning Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry
>> incorrectly
>> by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might
>> require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot
>> guarantee
>> that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.
>>
>> This issue may occur if there is a version conflict with a previous MMC
>> installation. If an earlier version of MMC is installed on the computer,
>> remove the MMC version details from the Windows registry. To do this,
>> follow
>> these steps: 1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
>> 2.In the left pane, locate and then expand the following registry subkey:
>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{D5AB5662-131D-453D-88C8-9BBA87502ADE}\InprocServer32
>> 3.Remove all the registry entries under the InprocServer32 key except for
>> the 3.0.0.0 entry.
>> 4.On the File menu, click Exit.
>> "
>>
>> Coraleigh
>>
>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E73A0F68-3EE1-463C-A135-5DD987F2D6EC@microsoft.com...
>> > Well, after installing SP2 again it still didn't work. I tried getting
>> > the
>> > MMC v3.0 download to install, but it keeps telling me that the SP
>> > version
>> > is
>> > newer and won't install the downloaded version.
>> > I can't find an uninstall string anywhere for the MMC component. Is
>> > there
>> > any way to uninstall the "broke" one so that I can install the
>> > downloaded
>> > one?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Also heres the tech doc which accompanies this download..it offers
>> >> solutions
>> >> if you run into issues installing...
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907265
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Coraleigh Miller" <CoraleighMiller@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:u%23nTBpG4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Try reinstalling the MMC itself ...
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...0b-908d-4b5d-8aa8-27b962566d9f&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >
>> >> > Coraleigh
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:D25AE4AF-3D44-49E5-9D44-DDF09239A00D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> Update: Installed the Administrative Tools, and it hasn't fixed the
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Does MMC open up at all? (Start->Run->type mmc). And if it does
>> >> >>> are
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> able
>> >> >>> to open event viewer from within it? (File->Add/Remove
>> >> >>> Snap-in->Add->Event
>> >> >>> Viewer).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You may want to try reinstalling the Admin tools as it could fix a
>> >> >>> corruption or reregister whatever is wonky...
>> >> >>> For Windows 2003
>> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...15-c8f4-47ef-a1e4-a8dcbacff8e3&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> For Windows 2003 SP1
>> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...85-f0c7-436a-a392-25793a25bad7&DisplayLang=en
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Coraleigh
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:C16FB933-8189-46D0-96A0-A0212853B146@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> > There are no errors that pop when you run one of these mcs's.
>> >> >>> > The
>> >> >>> > mouse
>> >> >>> > cursor briefly switches to an hour glass, but then nothing
>> >> >>> > starts.
>> >> >>> > I checked the event logs from a remote pc, and there are no
>> >> >>> > errors
>> >> >>> > associated with trying to launch one of the mcs in any of the
>> >> >>> > logs.
>> >> >>> > I have already checked the mcs files, and they are still in the
>> >> >>> > system32
>> >> >>> > folder. They won't run from there either.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Do you get any kind of error message pop up when you try and
>> >> >>> >> run
>> >> >>> >> one
>> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >>> >> these mcs?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> You could try to view the event log & services remotely through
>> >> >>> >> another
>> >> >>> >> machine's
>> >> >>> >> Computer Management Console to see if it gives us any clues.
>> >> >>> >> (Logged
>> >> >>> >> on
>> >> >>> >> as
>> >> >>> >> Domain Admin right-click
>> >> >>> >> MyComputer select Manage, right-click the Computer Management
>> >> >>> >> (Local)
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> select Connect to Another Computer, then type in the address of
>> >> >>> >> your
>> >> >>> >> problem
>> >> >>> >> server.)
>> >> >>> >> Also sounds silly, but you might want to confirm that your
>> >> >>> >> Eventvwr.msc,
>> >> >>> >> Services.msc, etc are actually still in your Windows\System32
>> >> >>> >> folder
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> that you can run them directly from there.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Coraleigh
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> "XraySpecs" <XraySpecs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >>> >> message
>> >> >>> >> news:E3C40664-B9C5-4F53-8B5F-B5ADFDB1AE6F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> > Thanks for the response...
>> >> >>> >> > This problem started without warning, and no new drivers or
>> >> >>> >> > software
>> >> >>> >> > has
>> >> >>> >> > been added for weeks.
>> >> >>> >> > I booted in safe mode and could not run any of the listed
>> >> >>> >> > apps,
>> >> >>> >> > including
>> >> >>> >> > event viewer.
>> >> >>> >> > I tried the 'Last known good configuration' with no change.
>> >> >>> >> > A virus scan has turned up nothing, and neither did chkdsk.
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Ideas?
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > "Coraleigh Miller" wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> Hi Ian,
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> We are going to need abit more info.
>> >> >>> >> >> Is this an upgrade you've just done to SBS 2003 when the
>> >> >>> >> >> issues
>> >> >>> >> >> started
>> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >>> >> >> Were any new software or drivers installed right before your
>> >> >>> >> >> issue
>> >> >>> >> >> started
>> >> >>> >> >> occuring?
>> >> >>> >> >> Are you able to get into your event viewer via Safe Mode?
>> >> >>> >> >> ..event
>> >> >>> >> >> log
>> >> >>> >> >> errors
>> >> >>> >> >> would really help us.
>> >> >>> >> >> If this configuration (SBS 2003) did work fine before, have
>> >> >>> >> >> you
>> >> >>> >> >> tried
>> >> >>> >> >> launching Last Known Good Config from the boot menu?
>> >> >>> >> >> You should probably run an antivirus scan on your server, an
>> >> >>> >> >> online
>> >> >>> >> >> scanner
>> >> >>> >> >> such as http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ is a good one.
>> >> >>> >> >> You might also want to run a chkdsk to see if there are any
>> >> >>> >> >> problems
>> >> >>> >> >> with
>> >> >>> >> >> your hard drive.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Coraleigh Miller
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> "Ian" <Ian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>> >> >> news:1BD5C7E1-0403-4C5C-A489-C5665A3BCAD7@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> >> >> > Running Windows 2003 SBS, now certain apps won't launch:
>> >> >>> >> >> > 1) Any administrative tools
>> >> >>> >> >> > 2) Event viewer
>> >> >>> >> >> > 3) Services viewer
>> >> >>> >> >> > 4) ISA Management
>> >> >>> >> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >> > Any ideas why this is happening? Done a full cold reboot
>> >> >>> >> >> > and
>> >> >>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >>> >> >> > persists. Other apps like Veritas Backup and Enterprise
>> >> >>> >> >> > Manager
>> >> >>> >> >> > work
>> >> >>> >> >> > fine.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>
 
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