Microsoft IntelliType Pro updates MS sites are not updating

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Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is offering
for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you choose at their
website result in a hardware/software combination that is supported by ITP
6.1.

As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2 for
supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.

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"dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> If you go here
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx and get
> get
> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType Pro 5.5.
> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why doesn't
> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
 
The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I know because
I have downloaded and installed it.

"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is offering
> for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you choose at their
> website result in a hardware/software combination that is supported by ITP
> 6.1.
>
> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2 for
> supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>
> --
> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
> (and other topics that interest me)
> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>
> More information by me
> http://jtsang.mvps.org
> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>
> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
>
>
> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>> If you go here
>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx and get
>> get
>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType Pro
>> 5.5.
>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why doesn't
>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
>
>
 
What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx

Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.

--
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"Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
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> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I know
> because I have downloaded and installed it.
>
> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is offering
>> for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you choose at their
>> website result in a hardware/software combination that is supported by
>> ITP 6.1.
>>
>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2 for
>> supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>>
>> --
>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>
>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>> (and other topics that interest me)
>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>
>> More information by me
>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>
>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>>> If you go here
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx and get
>>> get
>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType Pro
>>> 5.5.
>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
>>> doesn't
>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
>>
>>
>
>
 
Well, I chose Mouse -> Comfort Optical 3000 -> Windows XP (32bit only) >-
English (US)
and get
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...rsion=IntelliPoint 6.2 (32bit) for Windows XP
(Intellipoint 6.2 (32bit)....


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=================================
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=================================


Jason Tsang wrote:
> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>
> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
>
>
> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I know
>> because I have downloaded and installed it.
>>
>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you
>>> choose at their website result in a hardware/software combination
>>> that is supported by ITP 6.1.
>>>
>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2
>>> for supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>
>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>>> (and other topics that interest me)
>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> More information by me
>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>>
>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>>>> If you go here
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>>>> and get get
>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType
>>>> Pro 5.5.
>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
>>>> doesn't
>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
 
That gets you Intellipoint 6.2 (the mouse software), not Intellitype Pro 6.2
(the keyboard software).

--
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"Thomas Wendell" <tumppiw_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eJDeAdjCIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Well, I chose Mouse -> Comfort Optical 3000 -> Windows XP (32bit only) >-
> English (US)
> and get
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...rsion=IntelliPoint 6.2 (32bit) for Windows XP
> (Intellipoint 6.2 (32bit)....
>
>
> --
> Tumppi
> =================================
> A lot learned from these newsgroups
> Helsinki, FINLAND
> (translations from/to FI not always accurate
> =================================
>
>
> Jason Tsang wrote:
>> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>>
>> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
>>
>>
>> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
>> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I know
>>> because I have downloaded and installed it.
>>>
>>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
>>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you
>>>> choose at their website result in a hardware/software combination
>>>> that is supported by ITP 6.1.
>>>>
>>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2
>>>> for supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>>
>>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>>>> (and other topics that interest me)
>>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> More information by me
>>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>>>
>>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>>>>> If you go here
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>>>>> and get get
>>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType
>>>>> Pro 5.5.
>>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
>
>
>
 
Jason

My error - I was thinking of IntelliPoint when I read the question asking
about IntelliType; sorry for the confusion.

"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:OhKuI7fCIHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>
> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
>
> --
> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
> (and other topics that interest me)
> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>
> More information by me
> http://jtsang.mvps.org
> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>
> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
>
>
> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I know
>> because I have downloaded and installed it.
>>
>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you choose at
>>> their website result in a hardware/software combination that is
>>> supported by ITP 6.1.
>>>
>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2 for
>>> supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>
>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>>> (and other topics that interest me)
>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> More information by me
>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>>
>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>>>> If you go here
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx and
>>>> get get
>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType Pro
>>>> 5.5.
>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
>>>> doesn't
>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
Oops----


Jason Tsang wrote:
> That gets you Intellipoint 6.2 (the mouse software), not Intellitype
> Pro 6.2 (the keyboard software).
>
>
> "Thomas Wendell" <tumppiw_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eJDeAdjCIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I chose Mouse -> Comfort Optical 3000 -> Windows XP (32bit
>> only) >- English (US)
>> and get
>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...rsion=IntelliPoint 6.2 (32bit) for Windows XP
>> (Intellipoint 6.2 (32bit)....
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tumppi
>> =================================
>> A lot learned from these newsgroups
>> Helsinki, FINLAND
>> (translations from/to FI not always accurate
>> =================================
>>
>>
>> Jason Tsang wrote:
>>> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>>>
>>> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I
>>>> know because I have downloaded and installed it.
>>>>
>>>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
>>>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you
>>>>> choose at their website result in a hardware/software combination
>>>>> that is supported by ITP 6.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2
>>>>> for supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>>>
>>>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>>>>> (and other topics that interest me)
>>>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>> More information by me
>>>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>>>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> If you go here
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
>>>>>> and get get
>>>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType
>>>>>> Pro 5.5.
>>>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
>>>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?

--
Tumppi
=================================
A lot learned from these newsgroups
Helsinki, FINLAND
(translations from/to FI not always accurate
=================================
 
This is where I found the Intellitype Pro new version:

http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/

I already downloaded the Intellimouse version and I still have the same
problems as before...the refresh/screen flickering. I still have to disable
ipoint.exe to get rid of it.

"Thomas Wendell" wrote:

> Oops----
>
>
> Jason Tsang wrote:
> > That gets you Intellipoint 6.2 (the mouse software), not Intellitype
> > Pro 6.2 (the keyboard software).
> >
> >
> > "Thomas Wendell" <tumppiw_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eJDeAdjCIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Well, I chose Mouse -> Comfort Optical 3000 -> Windows XP (32bit
> >> only) >- English (US)
> >> and get
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...rsion=IntelliPoint 6.2 (32bit) for Windows XP
> >> (Intellipoint 6.2 (32bit)....
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tumppi
> >> =================================
> >> A lot learned from these newsgroups
> >> Helsinki, FINLAND
> >> (translations from/to FI not always accurate
> >> =================================
> >>
> >>
> >> Jason Tsang wrote:
> >>> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
> >>>
> >>> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I
> >>>> know because I have downloaded and installed it.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
> >>>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
> >>>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you
> >>>>> choose at their website result in a hardware/software combination
> >>>>> that is supported by ITP 6.1.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2
> >>>>> for supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
> >>>>> (and other topics that interest me)
> >>>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More information by me
> >>>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
> >>>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> >>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> If you go here
> >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
> >>>>>> and get get
> >>>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType
> >>>>>> Pro 5.5.
> >>>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
> >>>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
> >>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
>
> --
> Tumppi
> =================================
> A lot learned from these newsgroups
> Helsinki, FINLAND
> (translations from/to FI not always accurate
> =================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
Yes but this is just the english version... I can't find the spanish version
for windows vista 32 bits... and trust me I have searched all over the
internet for it...

"irbrenda" wrote:

> This is where I found the Intellitype Pro new version:
>
> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/
>
> I already downloaded the Intellimouse version and I still have the same
> problems as before...the refresh/screen flickering. I still have to disable
> ipoint.exe to get rid of it.
>
> "Thomas Wendell" wrote:
>
> > Oops----
> >
> >
> > Jason Tsang wrote:
> > > That gets you Intellipoint 6.2 (the mouse software), not Intellitype
> > > Pro 6.2 (the keyboard software).
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thomas Wendell" <tumppiw_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eJDeAdjCIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > >> Well, I chose Mouse -> Comfort Optical 3000 -> Windows XP (32bit
> > >> only) >- English (US)
> > >> and get
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/m...rsion=IntelliPoint 6.2 (32bit) for Windows XP
> > >> (Intellipoint 6.2 (32bit)....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tumppi
> > >> =================================
> > >> A lot learned from these newsgroups
> > >> Helsinki, FINLAND
> > >> (translations from/to FI not always accurate
> > >> =================================
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jason Tsang wrote:
> > >>> What hardware/os/language combination did you select from
> > >>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
> > >>>
> > >>> Because I can't find any combination that yields a ITP 6.2 link.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Jerry" <ChiefZekeNoSpam@MSN.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:eK0NQLfCIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >>>> The latest IntelliPoint version is: IntelliPoint 6.20.182.0 - I
> > >>>> know because I have downloaded and installed it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
> > >>>> news:ePTehJWCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >>>>> Actually the latest version of Intellitype Pro that microsoft is
> > >>>>> offering for Windows XP or Vista is 6.1, if the selections you
> > >>>>> choose at their website result in a hardware/software combination
> > >>>>> that is supported by ITP 6.1.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As to why Microsoft hasn't updated their website to offer ITP 6.2
> > >>>>> for supported hardware/software configurations, I don't know.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
> > >>>>> (and other topics that interest me)
> > >>>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> More information by me
> > >>>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
> > >>>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> > >>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "dread" <dread@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>> news:2CC2C3C8-3F4E-426B-8750-B5893C5A4E7F@microsoft.com...
> > >>>>>> If you go here
> > >>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx
> > >>>>>> and get get
> > >>>>>> Microsoft IntelliType Pro software it says Microsoft IntelliType
> > >>>>>> Pro 5.5.
> > >>>>>> If you do a google search there is version 6.2 out.
> > >>>>>> http://filehippo.com/download_intellitype/ list the software. Why
> > >>>>>> doesn't
> > >>>>>> Microsoft update their site to show the new version?
> >
> > --
> > Tumppi
> > =================================
> > A lot learned from these newsgroups
> > Helsinki, FINLAND
> > (translations from/to FI not always accurate
> > =================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
 
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