Microsft Identification

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My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
that the installed software was indeed non genuine.

Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
except any more messages.

He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
Authorised MS Distributor"

The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.

Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
 
barrowhill wrote:

> My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>
> Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> except any more messages.
>
> He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> Authorised MS Distributor"
>
> The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
>
> Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???

What Microsoft ID system? But, generally, if WGA reports that the
item is not genuine, then the first recourse would be to follow the
suggestions from the Microsoft website. However, let me ask this:
Does your son have all of the original Windows XP and Office cdroms
along with their certificates, manuals, documentation, etc.? They
should have accompanied any sale. If not, then I would be inclined
to believe Microsoft's OGA declaration.
 
barrowhill <barrowhill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
>to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
>short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
>that the installed software was indeed non genuine.

Proof Positive of the maxim "Buyer Beware".
 
Many thanks for your quick response.

In answer to your questions.....

1) There was no COA attached to PC. Non has ever been supplied despite request
2) CD's not initially delivered but subseqently sent on request. They do
not conform to any design shown on Microsoft site for genuine CD's
3) No manuals or other Documentation supplied

Having sent the MGADiag report for assessment, the response received
confirmed without any doubt in my mind that the software was non-genuine. It
now seems that my suspicions of a scam with the Microsoft ID system is
confirmed with your reply.

If anyone else has any further input as confirmation I'd be happy to hear.

"GHalleck" wrote:

>
> barrowhill wrote:
>
> > My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> > to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> > short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> > that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
> >
> > Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> > so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> > won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> > support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> > except any more messages.
> >
> > He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> > refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> > Authorised MS Distributor"
> >
> > The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> > above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
>
> What Microsoft ID system? But, generally, if WGA reports that the
> item is not genuine, then the first recourse would be to follow the
> suggestions from the Microsoft website. However, let me ask this:
> Does your son have all of the original Windows XP and Office cdroms
> along with their certificates, manuals, documentation, etc.? They
> should have accompanied any sale. If not, then I would be inclined
> to believe Microsoft's OGA declaration.
>
 
barrowhill <barrowhill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Having sent the MGADiag report for assessment, the response received
>confirmed without any doubt in my mind that the software was non-genuine. It
>now seems that my suspicions of a scam with the Microsoft ID system is
>confirmed with your reply.
>
>If anyone else has any further input as confirmation I'd be happy to hear.

You've heard all that you need to hear.

I doubt that you have any recourse against the seller. You might look
into that.

If that proves futile, you will have to spend more money to get your
system up and running.
 
Totally agree with you but even after all the research before buying, still
got caught.


"PD43" wrote:

> barrowhill <barrowhill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> >to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> >short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> >that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>
> Proof Positive of the maxim "Buyer Beware".
>
 
barrowhill <barrowhill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Totally agree with you but even after all the research before buying, still
>got caught.

Next time you buy a computer on eBay (I've bought several), by "factor
sealed and unopened).

Or buy it knowing that you will have to add at least $100 to load the
OS.
 
PD43 wrote:
> barrowhill <barrowhill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Totally agree with you but even after all the research before buying,
>> still
>> got caught.
>
> Next time you buy a computer on eBay (I've bought several), by "factory
> sealed and unopened).
>
> Or buy it knowing that you will have to add at least $100 to load the
> OS.

I would have guessed that factory sealed and unopened ones would be pretty
hard to find on eBay. Guess they come from some dealers, and not
individuals (like Joe down the street trying to sell his used system).
 
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Or buy it knowing that you will have to add at least $100 to load the
>> OS.
>
>I would have guessed that factory sealed and unopened ones would be pretty
>hard to find on eBay.

You guessed wrong Bubbette.
 
barrowhill wrote:
> Many thanks for your quick response.
>
> In answer to your questions.....
>
> 1) There was no COA attached to PC. Non has ever been supplied despite request
> 2) CD's not initially delivered but subseqently sent on request. They do
> not conform to any design shown on Microsoft site for genuine CD's
> 3) No manuals or other Documentation supplied
>

Definitely an illicit copy. File a complaint with eBay, not that
they'll really do anything. Contact your credit card company to stop
the payment and report the fraud. Contact your local law enforcement
and/or consumer protection agencies to determine what other courses of
action may be available to you.


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Bruce Chambers

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
Bruce Chambers wrote:

>
> Definitely an illicit copy.

How the hell did this idiot come to this conclusion? Microsoft's WGA is not a
genuine tool to decide this. I have several systems running "pirated software" and
yet WGA says quite clearly that I have GENUINE SOFTWARE and I keep receiving updates
and what not regularly!

Fat Kev
 
Bruce,

Thanks. Further action already in motion. Your right, e-Bay aren't really
interested despite some forthright emails to them. As long as they keep
getting their share income that's all they care about.

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> barrowhill wrote:
> > Many thanks for your quick response.
> >
> > In answer to your questions.....
> >
> > 1) There was no COA attached to PC. Non has ever been supplied despite request
> > 2) CD's not initially delivered but subseqently sent on request. They do
> > not conform to any design shown on Microsoft site for genuine CD's
> > 3) No manuals or other Documentation supplied
> >
>
> Definitely an illicit copy. File a complaint with eBay, not that
> they'll really do anything. Contact your credit card company to stop
> the payment and report the fraud. Contact your local law enforcement
> and/or consumer protection agencies to determine what other courses of
> action may be available to you.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>
 
Fat Kev,

Your right and that's how this supplier is getting away with it. He slipped
up by not installing Office pre delivery. Having received CD and installed
my son required a CV template which required WGA to be run before download.
It failed. The new HDD they supplied with office pre-installed didn't fail
same test. However, Microsofts MGADiag Tool confirmed non-genuine.

"fat kev" wrote:

>
>
> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>
> >
> > Definitely an illicit copy.
>
> How the hell did this idiot come to this conclusion? Microsoft's WGA is not a
> genuine tool to decide this. I have several systems running "pirated software" and
> yet WGA says quite clearly that I have GENUINE SOFTWARE and I keep receiving updates
> and what not regularly!
>
> Fat Kev
>
>
>
>
>
>
 
On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>
> Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> except any more messages.
>
> He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> Authorised MS Distributor"
>
> The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
>
> Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???

I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
claim never to have received back.
I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
it.
 
On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>
> Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> except any more messages.
>
> He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> Authorised MS Distributor"
>
> The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
>
> Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???

I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
claim never to have received back.
I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
it.

I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
claim never to have received back.
I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
it.
 
terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
>> to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
>> short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
>> that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>>
>> Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
>> so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
>> won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
>> support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
>> except any more messages.
>>
>> He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
>> refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
>> Authorised MS Distributor"
>>
>> The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
>> above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
That's why you send things via a traceable shipper. Anything more than
$50 US, I pay $2 for a return receipt or send UPS or Fedex. Something.
I know, its water over the dam but!
 
terry,

Sorry you have suffered same problem. I can confirm your naming and shaming
of the company and people involved - QWELT Group.

I refused to send the PC (hardware) back for fear of the very thing that
you've encountered i.e wasn't received. The hardware wasn't the issue just
the software. The purchase was done through credit card so a claim has been
lodged with card company for a refund. The refund is for retail purchase of
valid software from local retail outlet. Outlet provided cost details to do
so.

Card company have all details of QWELT and are pursuing issue with them.
Hope legal action is taken

Son not yet had refund from company but ever hopeful will be resolved

Perhaps Microsoft should check this company out but doubt they'd be
interested as probably not big enough. It annoys me that such company's get
away with these things and it's the innocent parties that pay. Why PayPal
say you haven't a claim is beyond me. Shows typical lack of interest just
like Ebay. They were unhelpful as well . All are just happy to take
everybody's money without any sense of obligation or fair play


"terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk" wrote:

> On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> > to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> > short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> > that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
> >
> > Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> > so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> > won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> > support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> > except any more messages.
> >
> > He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> > refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> > Authorised MS Distributor"
> >
> > The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> > above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
>
 
> terry,

Sorry you have suffered same problem. I can confirm your naming and shaming
of the company and people involved - QWELT Group.

I refused to send the PC (hardware) back for fear of the very thing that
you've encountered i.e wasn't received. The hardware wasn't the issue just
the software. The purchase was done through credit card so a claim has been
lodged with card company for a refund. The refund is for retail purchase of
valid software from local retail outlet. Outlet provided cost details to do
so.

Card company have all details of QWELT and are pursuing issue with them.
Hope legal action is taken

Son not yet had refund from company but ever hopeful will be resolved

Perhaps Microsoft should check this company out but doubt they'd be
interested as probably not big enough. It annoys me that such company's get
away with these things and it's the innocent parties that pay. Why PayPal
say you haven't a claim is beyond me. Shows typical lack of interest just
like Ebay. They were unhelpful as well . All are just happy to take
everybody's money without any sense of obligation or fair play

"terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk" wrote:

> On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> > My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
> > to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
> > short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
> > that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
> >
> > Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
> > so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
> > won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
> > support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
> > except any more messages.
> >
> > He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
> > refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
> > Authorised MS Distributor"
> >
> > The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
> > above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
> I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
> software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
> a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
> eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
> some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
> well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
> claim never to have received back.
> I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
> Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
> I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
> helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
> So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
> it.
>
 
Here is the link for you to report them.
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/reporting/default.aspx

barrowhill wrote:

> terry,
>
> Sorry you have suffered same problem. I can confirm your naming and shaming
> of the company and people involved - QWELT Group.
>
> I refused to send the PC (hardware) back for fear of the very thing that
> you've encountered i.e wasn't received. The hardware wasn't the issue just
> the software. The purchase was done through credit card so a claim has been
> lodged with card company for a refund. The refund is for retail purchase of
> valid software from local retail outlet. Outlet provided cost details to do
> so.
>
> Card company have all details of QWELT and are pursuing issue with them.
> Hope legal action is taken
>
> Son not yet had refund from company but ever hopeful will be resolved
>
> Perhaps Microsoft should check this company out but doubt they'd be
> interested as probably not big enough. It annoys me that such company's get
> away with these things and it's the innocent parties that pay. Why PayPal
> say you haven't a claim is beyond me. Shows typical lack of interest just
> like Ebay. They were unhelpful as well . All are just happy to take
> everybody's money without any sense of obligation or fair play
>
>
> "terryleaman@tiscali.co.uk" wrote:
>
>
>>On 6 avr, 19:41, barrowhill <barrowh...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>My son purchased a PC system from an on-line e-Bay reseller which was stated
>>>to have genuine XP Pro and Office 2007 SE installed. To cut a long story
>>>short, the Microsft OGA Manager has confirmed, via supplied MGADiag Report,
>>>that the installed software was indeed non genuine.
>>>
>>>Communication with the supplier has stopped. He refuses to answer emails,
>>>so request for refund is being ignored. The advertised telephone number
>>>won't except incoming calls and the e-Bay supplied number for their customer
>>>support line is an answerphone line that has been overscribed and won't
>>>except any more messages.
>>>
>>>He is however quick to respond to feedback left on the site and totally
>>>refutes that the software is not genuine "......All stock obtained from
>>>Authorised MS Distributor"
>>>
>>>The site indicates that their Microsoft ID is: 1880195 – Aysha Mir.
>>>
>>>Can anyone confirm the Microsoft ID system and what it is/does??? Is the
>>>above ID real or a scam ??? If it's real why all the hassle ???
>>
>>I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
>>software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
>>a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
>>eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
>>some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
>>well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
>>claim never to have received back.
>>I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
>>Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
>>I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
>>helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
>>So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
>>it.
>>
>>I have had exactly the same problem- with the same E-Bay seller.The
>>software failed vaildation, I was told the licence number belonged to
>>a large corporate customer- There were no COAs, the CDs which I
>>eventually got after a lot of argy bargy were not genuine software but
>>some sort I've never seen before- Both of the CDs failed validation as
>>well. I was told I could return the PC for a refund- guess what they
>>claim never to have received back.
>>I'm willing to name this E-Bay seller - QWELT_group, QWELT ltd,
>>Raymond & Richie Johnson, John Kennedy and so on.
>>I paid through PayPal so lodged a claim with them- they were as
>>helpful as a chocolate teapot and said I had no claim.
>>So now I'm over £300 out of pocket and not even got the PC to show for
>>it.
>>
>>
 
I too have had problems with Qwelt Ltd. To the tune of £377 for 2 pc's
They got suspended from ebay half way thru the transaction. Ebay wiped
out the details of the auctions I won.
Since then, (April) they got up & running again, but I've had no joy
getting my PC's or my money back from them.
I notice they are no longer registered users of Ebay - hopefully as a
result of the 120+ reports I filed for non-compliance with Ebay
policies. (I'll make 'em pay)
All their auctions said they were based in London. Their website says
Manchester.
They always tried to get buyers to pay through their 'secure' payment
page on their website - saying it was provided by HSBC.
It's not secure & has no connection to HSBC. Just a simple web mailing
form which stores peoples card details in an sql database on the web.
If anyone's paid thru this form I'd highly recommend putting a stop on
the card.
I've done some tracing on them & in the past they sold fake designer
clothing & jewelery, mobile phones thru 365mobile.com & their HQ looks
like a high street 'pound' shop & is called Bargain World.

If anyone needs more detailed contact information, details follow:

Mr Raymond G Johnson
Qwelt Ltd (AKA Bargain World)
143-145 Kettering Road
Northampton
Northamptonshire NN1 4BS

Tel: 01604 634375
Email: raymondgjohnson@hotmail.com
 
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