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Lee Reynolds

Hi All,
Im having a problem with MP 11 on Vista HP. Does not matter what
song file I play, but towards the end of the a song it stops for a bout 2
secs then carries on, but have no probs with any music or video file using
winamp. Any ideas why it does this?
 
In article <eV7gm993HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, sctatchy10
@ntlworld.com says...
> Hi All,
> Im having a problem with MP 11 on Vista HP. Does not matter what
> song file I play, but towards the end of the a song it stops for a bout 2
> secs then carries on, but have no probs with any music or video file using
> winamp. Any ideas why it does this?


It's a well-known problem which can be solved by going to Control Panel
-> Sound -> Speakers. In the Enhancements tab, check "Disable all
enhancements".

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Kind regards,
Mark Veldhuis.
 
Lee Reynolds wrote:
> Hi All,
> Im having a problem with MP 11 on Vista HP. Does not matter
> what song file I play, but towards the end of the a song it stops for
> a bout 2 secs then carries on, but have no probs with any music or
> video file using winamp. Any ideas why it does this?


Why use media players for music? VLC or Winamp do a far better job with
out eatting so much resources and gives you more control. Winamp may be
better suited for music, while VLC beats the pants off of WMP in video
playing, although VLC does music/audio just as well as winamp. Winamp
has a nice media library feature though. and both are free and not
restrictive like media player. VLS supports more formats than media
player too.

There really is no reason to stick with media player once you know the
laternatives :) If you want one app that does both well go with VLC
(videolan.org)

www.videolan.org
www.winamp.com
 
That's somewhat of a tangent- the user's problem descriptions have
identified what is 90% likely a bug in the audio processing objects for the
sound card. Regardless of what player they want to use, it'd be of
extremely high value to them to fix that up.

Regardless of liking VLC or WinAMP, problems that occur within WMP are
usually signs that something is wrong with the system / system
configuration. Switching players to avoid that may hide the problems
temporarily, but isn't a great long-term solution. Fix the problem and
*then* tout your alternative du jour. =)

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Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"V.Ronans" <v_r@spamless.and.happy> wrote in message
news:bPKdnU8EJIhdEVnbnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@wavecable.com...
> Lee Reynolds wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Im having a problem with MP 11 on Vista HP. Does not matter
>> what song file I play, but towards the end of the a song it stops for
>> a bout 2 secs then carries on, but have no probs with any music or
>> video file using winamp. Any ideas why it does this?

>
> Why use media players for music? VLC or Winamp do a far better job with
> out eatting so much resources and gives you more control. Winamp may be
> better suited for music, while VLC beats the pants off of WMP in video
> playing, although VLC does music/audio just as well as winamp. Winamp has
> a nice media library feature though. and both are free and not restrictive
> like media player. VLS supports more formats than media player too.
>
> There really is no reason to stick with media player once you know the
> laternatives :) If you want one app that does both well go with VLC
> (videolan.org)
>
> www.videolan.org
> www.winamp.com
>
 
zachd [MSFT] wrote:
> "V.Ronans" <v_r@spamless.and.happy> wrote in message
> news:bPKdnU8EJIhdEVnbnZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@wavecable.com...
>> Lee Reynolds wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> Im having a problem with MP 11 on Vista HP. Does not matter
>>> what song file I play, but towards the end of the a song it stops
>>> for a bout 2 secs then carries on, but have no probs with any music
>>> or video file using winamp. Any ideas why it does this?

>>
>> Why use media players for music? VLC or Winamp do a far better job
>> with out eatting so much resources and gives you more control.
>> Winamp may be better suited for music, while VLC beats the pants off
>> of WMP in video playing, although VLC does music/audio just as well
>> as winamp. Winamp has a nice media library feature though. and both
>> are free and not restrictive like media player. VLS supports more
>> formats than media player too. There really is no reason to stick
>> with media player once you know
>> the laternatives :) If you want one app that does both well go with
>> VLC (videolan.org)
>>
>> www.videolan.org
>> www.winamp.com

>
> That's somewhat of a tangent- the user's problem descriptions have
> identified what is 90% likely a bug in the audio processing objects
> for the sound card. Regardless of what player they want to use, it'd
> be of extremely high value to them to fix that up.


While it may be better to fix the root cause, I think in this particular
case, it's something that would only happen with WMP, since it uses
those particular enhancements, and I do not beleive all players do
unless explicitly designed to use them. Otherwise, it would be just
another needless complication.

> Regardless of liking VLC or WinAMP, problems that occur within WMP are
> usually signs that something is wrong with the system / system
> configuration.


The way you said that, I have to disagree. In my experience, many
problem with WMP over the years have bene within it and not occuring in
other players (VLC, among others.) If it's a problem with the soundcard
(or how the system is interacting with it) then that's indeed something
that will likely effect any player.

> Switching players to avoid that may hide the problems
> temporarily, but isn't a great long-term solution. Fix the problem
> and *then* tout your alternative du jour. =)


True, assuming if the proposed fix by Mark Veldhuis works. If it
doesn't, then it coems down ot either waiting for Microsoft fixes it (no
telling how long that will take) or trying alternate players. I agree
VLC is a better alternative to WMP in general. I especially like how I
can play DVD movies in "simple" mode where the player treats it as if it
were a single movie file, and a s a bonus skips all the beginning
adverts, starting playback at the start of the actual film. I really
don't think WMP can do that :)

-saran
 
"V.Ronans" <v_r@spamless.and.happy> wrote in message
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> Why use media players for music?


I use it because it has much better library organization than all the other
players. I use digital out to an external EMU 0404 so have none of these
issues anyway.
 
"zachd [MSFT]" <zachd@nomailplz.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:u67aAOD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> That's somewhat of a tangent- the user's problem descriptions have
> identified what is 90% likely a bug in the audio processing objects for
> the sound card. Regardless of what player they want to use, it'd be of
> extremely high value to them to fix that up.
>
> Regardless of liking VLC or WinAMP, problems that occur within WMP are
> usually signs that something is wrong with the system / system
> configuration. Switching players to avoid that may hide the problems
> temporarily, but isn't a great long-term solution. Fix the problem and
> *then* tout your alternative du jour. =)


Yea, I like WMP because it has great organizational skills. Only downside is
that it doesn't support plugins like Asio, crossfeed for headphone use,
dolby surround, channel mixer etc. Foobar is the best player for those
purposes but most of the time I use WMP.
 
"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
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> zachd [MSFT] wrote:
>> Regardless of liking VLC or WinAMP, problems that occur within WMP are
>> usually signs that something is wrong with the system / system
>> configuration.


> The way you said that, I have to disagree. In my experience, many problem
> with WMP over the years have bene within it and not occuring in other
> players (VLC, among others.) If it's a problem with the soundcard (or how
> the system is interacting with it) then that's indeed something that will
> likely effect any player.


Naw, I've been doing multimedia troubleshooting for twelve years. I've seen
one line changes cause entirely different results in drivers for no visible
reason (read: driver bug) in the same player, let alone a different player
which already was playing by its own rules.

Once you start crossing players, you're in an entirely different ballgame.
The commonalities and differences between players will help narrow an issue
towards a workable definition, but you don't want to overestimate what any
given data point is telling you. The player involved is just one factor.

>> Switching players to avoid that may hide the problems
>> temporarily, but isn't a great long-term solution. Fix the problem
>> and *then* tout your alternative du jour. =)


> True, assuming if the proposed fix by Mark Veldhuis works. If it doesn't,
> then it coems down ot either waiting for Microsoft fixes it (no telling
> how long that will take)


As identified, it seems like a sound card driver issue. Otherwise we'd
theoretically be seeing this on your system too...

This conversation is tangential to any customer value-add, so I don't think
it's going anywhere. The net is that switching players to/from anything
isn't the most effective long-term trouble-shooting strategy. Things should
Just Work. =\

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
 
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