I see that you are co-author of a book on the subject of security, so perhaps
I should not be surprised at your unequivocal advice to leave them on.
That's OK, but leaving them on without some fix is not an option, since the
machine is useless without reasonable access to the Internet. You know well
that the fact that the programs cause no difficulty on your machines does
not mean that the probllem is some failure or unusual usage or behavior on my
part. The machine is a new HP works fine I've added nothing to Explorer,
nor any rare, remarkable other software.
Two possibilities seem likely: 1, something about the way the updates were
installed by the the auto-install system may affect their operability.
2. My basic security programs may interfere with the updated Vista security
programs.
A message on this forum that I'm unable to relocate at the moment reported
that he had to uninstall the latest two security updates that arrived via
auto-update, and then manually reinstall them before they stopped interfering
with his Internet access. (How does one avoid the install shield?)
My experience with the slowdowns to all facets of operation on earlier
machines (with Windows 98 and Windows XP) _provably_ caused by the Norton
security suite led me to remove the Norton suite from all my machines, and
substitute the Computer Associates CA suite, which did not share that Norton
disadvantage.
The third possibility is that multiple firewall programs running
simultaneously had something to do with the problem (though it didn't
interfere noticeaably until the latest security updates were installed.) The
router has a buit-in firewall, Vista has its own firewall, and the CA suite
does, too. To solve this, I've now disabled the Windows and CA firewalls, and
rely on the router. (but I haven't yet reinstalled the latest two security
updates.) Neither I nor any other computer user can afford to change all his
security systems every tiime there is a conflict between them and the latest
security update from Microsoft.
One has to balance the risk of security invasions against spending too great
a portion of the available time on system upkeep, as opposed to the other
useful work for which one keeps and operates the machines. It might help if
there were sime measure of the danger and risk for which the security
measures were devised.
Your comments?
--
kreinerh
"Jesper" wrote:
> Those updates are important. You should leave them on.
>
> I cannot see that behavior here on two computers that have them. Are you
> using Internet Explorer? Can you explain *exactly* what you are doing? Do you
> have any third-party add-ins installed in Internet Explorer, or some other
> third-party software, such as security software, that could be interfering
> with your network connectivity?
> ---
> Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470101555?ie=UTF8&tag=protectyourwi-20
>
>
> "kreinerh" wrote:
>
> > This morning, my Vista machine reported receiving a group of Microsoft
> > updates, including two Security updates. I then found that connecting to the
> > internet was virtually impossible. My XP machine had no trouble making the
> > connection, but the Vista machine appeared to be hgaving a hard time, taking
> > minutes to even reach the home page. I uninstalled the two security updates,
> > and restored my ability to get to the internet. Just how important can those
> > security updates be?
> > --
> > kreinerh