IDE to SATA

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I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see how it looks (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg). The problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup correctly? It worked the first time but after shutting down the system and rebooting that when the problem started.

Thanks in advance.

Wy
 
Wyman wrote:
>
> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive
> (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I
> bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see
> how it looks
> (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg). The
> problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the
> computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass
> the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make
> a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup
> correctly? It worked the first time but after shutting down the system
> and rebooting that when the problem started.
>


If a hard drive is doing nothing but making a clicking sound, it has
failed. The clicks are most likely indicative of a "head crash."



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Hi Bruce,

The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive but
I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put it in
the computer I want it in now.

Wy

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Wyman wrote:
>>
>> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive
>> (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I
>> bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see how
>> it looks (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg).
>> The problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the
>> computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass
>> the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make a
>> change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup correctly?
>> It worked the first time but after shutting down the system and rebooting
>> that when the problem started.
>>
>
>
> If a hard drive is doing nothing but making a clicking sound, it has
> failed. The clicks are most likely indicative of a "head crash."
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Wyman wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive but
> I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put it in
> the computer I want it in now.
>


Hardware can fail at any time. Have you successfully used that drive
in another computer *after* the clicking started?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 

> Wyman wrote:
>>
>> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive
>> (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I
>> bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see how
>> it looks (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg).
>> The problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the
>> computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass
>> the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make a
>> change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup correctly?
>> It worked the first time but after shutting down the system and rebooting
>> that when the problem started.


"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:%23pq3BQ0RIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> If a hard drive is doing nothing but making a clicking sound, it has
> failed. The clicks are most likely indicative of a "head crash."
> Bruce Chambers

> Hi Bruce,
>
> The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive but
> I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put it in
> the computer I want it in now.


Wyman:
While it is true that a "clicking sound" (assuming such is emanating from
the HDD) is an ominous sign and may very well be an indication that you're
simply dealing with a defective HDD as Bruce points out, it's possible the
problem may just lie with your IDE-to-SATA converter. We've encountered so
many problems with these kinds of devices that we rarely recommend them to
users.

First of all, we're assuming that you are working with a HDD other than the
WD one that you're booting to and which properly functions. That the only
problem is the failure of the system to recognize this WD HDD as a
*secondary* HDD, i.e., that you're *not* trying to boot to that WD drive. So
that there's absolutely *no* problem with your system booting & properly
functioning while the WD HDD is *disconnected* from the system. All that's
right, isn't it?

Assuming it is, it really would be best for diagnostic purposes if you would
connect your WD PATA (IDE) HDD as an internal HDD in your PC. (I'm assuming
you're working with a desktop machine).

I realize you've indicated that "I don't have any available IDE controller
to use", but I'm assuming that your machine has at least one IDE controller
installed and that you can (temporarily) disconnect one of your IDE devices
from one of the IDE controller's channel - other than the booting HDD, of
course, should there be a PATA boot HDD installed - and install your WD HDD
as a secondary HDD, jumpering it accordingly. Of course, if your system does
*not* have *any* IDE controllers - only SATA ones as many motherboards
lately do, then what I've suggested is not feasible.

Can you do this? If so, it's worth a try to determine if the system will
recognize the WD disk and that the problem may very well by your IDE-to-SATA
converter.
Anna
 
defo sounds like a dead disk - take the drive and plug into another system
some where see if it works -

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> Wyman wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive but
> > I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put it in
> > the computer I want it in now.
> >
>
>
> Hardware can fail at any time. Have you successfully used that drive
> in another computer *after* the clicking started?
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
>
 
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 15:45:31 -0600, "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a
> backup drive (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE
> controller to use so I bought an IDE to SATA adapter.
> Here's a picture of it so you can see how it
> looks (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg).
> The problem I'm having is when I placed the drive
> (non-jumpered) in the computer and boot it up I hear a
> clicking sound and it doesn't get pass the posting screen
> so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make
> a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to
> bootup correctly? It worked the first time but after
> shutting down the system and rebooting that when the
> problem started.


It's not the answer to the question you're asking, but I'll point out
that if you care about your data, you should reconsider the idea of
putting backups on a second internal drive. Such a scheme is better
than no backup at all, but just barely. It is always possible that a
user error, sever power glitch, nearby lightning strike, virus attack,
even theft of the computer, can cause the loss of everything at once.

In my view, secure backup needs to be on removable media, and not kept
in the computer. For really secure backup (needed, for example, if the
life of your business depends on your data) you should have multiple
generations of backup, and at least one of those generations should be
stored off-site. Backup to an external drive is fine, one that you
connect only when performing a backup, is fine. I recommend that you
buy a USB enclosure (they cost around $20-25 US) and mount your drive
in that.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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I haven't tried.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Wyman wrote:
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive
>> but I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put
>> it in the computer I want it in now.
>>
>
>
> Hardware can fail at any time. Have you successfully used that drive in
> another computer *after* the clicking started?
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Hi Anna,

Thanks for your response. I apologize for the my confusing post but I do
have an IDE controller on the motherboard. The DVD drives are connected to
it. My boot drive is a Maxtor 300gb SATA2 internal hd which is connected to
one of the SATA ports on the motherboard. The WD is an additional drive
that I was planning to add internally as a backup drive. Not to get off the
subject but why when I go to the BIOS I see the boot drive listed as "IDE
Channel 0 Slave"? I would think that it being the only drive on the system
that it should be a master.

Wy

"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:eF4r4z0RIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> Wyman wrote:
>>>
>>> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive
>>> (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I
>>> bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see
>>> how it looks
>>> (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg). The
>>> problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the
>>> computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass
>>> the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make
>>> a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup
>>> correctly? It worked the first time but after shutting down the system
>>> and rebooting that when the problem started.
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:%23pq3BQ0RIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> If a hard drive is doing nothing but making a clicking sound, it has
>> failed. The clicks are most likely indicative of a "head crash."
>> Bruce Chambers
>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive
>> but I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put
>> it in the computer I want it in now.
>
>
> Wyman:
> While it is true that a "clicking sound" (assuming such is emanating from
> the HDD) is an ominous sign and may very well be an indication that you're
> simply dealing with a defective HDD as Bruce points out, it's possible the
> problem may just lie with your IDE-to-SATA converter. We've encountered so
> many problems with these kinds of devices that we rarely recommend them to
> users.
>
> First of all, we're assuming that you are working with a HDD other than
> the WD one that you're booting to and which properly functions. That the
> only problem is the failure of the system to recognize this WD HDD as a
> *secondary* HDD, i.e., that you're *not* trying to boot to that WD drive.
> So that there's absolutely *no* problem with your system booting &
> properly functioning while the WD HDD is *disconnected* from the system.
> All that's right, isn't it?
>
> Assuming it is, it really would be best for diagnostic purposes if you
> would connect your WD PATA (IDE) HDD as an internal HDD in your PC. (I'm
> assuming you're working with a desktop machine).
>
> I realize you've indicated that "I don't have any available IDE controller
> to use", but I'm assuming that your machine has at least one IDE
> controller installed and that you can (temporarily) disconnect one of your
> IDE devices from one of the IDE controller's channel - other than the
> booting HDD, of course, should there be a PATA boot HDD installed - and
> install your WD HDD as a secondary HDD, jumpering it accordingly. Of
> course, if your system does *not* have *any* IDE controllers - only SATA
> ones as many motherboards lately do, then what I've suggested is not
> feasible.
>
> Can you do this? If so, it's worth a try to determine if the system will
> recognize the WD disk and that the problem may very well by your
> IDE-to-SATA converter.
> Anna
>
 
Why not try disconnecting the dvd ide & connect the hd ide, see if the drive
then is OK
If it is use an ide cable with 2 device connectors on it

"Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Anna,
>
> Thanks for your response. I apologize for the my confusing post but I do
> have an IDE controller on the motherboard. The DVD drives are connected
> to it. My boot drive is a Maxtor 300gb SATA2 internal hd which is
> connected to one of the SATA ports on the motherboard. The WD is an
> additional drive that I was planning to add internally as a backup drive.
> Not to get off the subject but why when I go to the BIOS I see the boot
> drive listed as "IDE Channel 0 Slave"? I would think that it being the
> only drive on the system that it should be a master.
>
> Wy
>
> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:eF4r4z0RIHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Wyman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive
>>>> (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I
>>>> bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see
>>>> how it looks
>>>> (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg). The
>>>> problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the
>>>> computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass
>>>> the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make
>>>> a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup
>>>> correctly? It worked the first time but after shutting down the system
>>>> and rebooting that when the problem started.
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:%23pq3BQ0RIHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> If a hard drive is doing nothing but making a clicking sound, it has
>>> failed. The clicks are most likely indicative of a "head crash."
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> The drive works. I actually had it in another computer as a 2nd drive
>>> but I'm hooking it up to another system. It worked the first time I put
>>> it in the computer I want it in now.
>>
>>
>> Wyman:
>> While it is true that a "clicking sound" (assuming such is emanating from
>> the HDD) is an ominous sign and may very well be an indication that
>> you're simply dealing with a defective HDD as Bruce points out, it's
>> possible the problem may just lie with your IDE-to-SATA converter. We've
>> encountered so many problems with these kinds of devices that we rarely
>> recommend them to users.
>>
>> First of all, we're assuming that you are working with a HDD other than
>> the WD one that you're booting to and which properly functions. That the
>> only problem is the failure of the system to recognize this WD HDD as a
>> *secondary* HDD, i.e., that you're *not* trying to boot to that WD drive.
>> So that there's absolutely *no* problem with your system booting &
>> properly functioning while the WD HDD is *disconnected* from the system.
>> All that's right, isn't it?
>>
>> Assuming it is, it really would be best for diagnostic purposes if you
>> would connect your WD PATA (IDE) HDD as an internal HDD in your PC. (I'm
>> assuming you're working with a desktop machine).
>>
>> I realize you've indicated that "I don't have any available IDE
>> controller to use", but I'm assuming that your machine has at least one
>> IDE controller installed and that you can (temporarily) disconnect one of
>> your IDE devices from one of the IDE controller's channel - other than
>> the booting HDD, of course, should there be a PATA boot HDD installed -
>> and install your WD HDD as a secondary HDD, jumpering it accordingly. Of
>> course, if your system does *not* have *any* IDE controllers - only SATA
>> ones as many motherboards lately do, then what I've suggested is not
>> feasible.
>>
>> Can you do this? If so, it's worth a try to determine if the system will
>> recognize the WD disk and that the problem may very well by your
>> IDE-to-SATA converter.
>> Anna
>>
>
>
 
Well Wyman, i would suggest not to use any converter kits. As some low cost
make conversion kits may have a few capacitor that is not an correct type.
This may result to low voltage passed to the hard disk. And this may be the
cause #1 you are getting the clicking sound. #2. As there is not enought
power to drive the hard disk. BIOS will do a loop on the device for a while
then report "Disk Failed".

If it is going to be 2nd disk (backup), personaly i would suggest for a USB
external hard disk cage.

Thanks.




"Wyman" wrote:

> I have an extra WD IDE drive that I would like to use as a backup drive (2nd drive). I don't have any available IDE controller to use so I bought an IDE to SATA adapter. Here's a picture of it so you can see how it looks (http://www.addonics.com/products/io/images/sata_bridge.jpg). The problem I'm having is when I placed the drive(non-jumpered) in the computer and boot it up I hear a clicking sound and it doesn't get pass the posting screen so I just power the computer off. Do I need to make a change in the BIOS or something to get the computer to bootup correctly? It worked the first time but after shutting down the system and rebooting that when the problem started.
>
> Thanks in advance
 
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