I have 3 Win 2003 servers - where do i put MOM 2005

[MSExchangeStudent]

Hi

The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)

1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest updates. (E-mail
server)
2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database component.
3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL Enterprise is
also installed here as Portal needs it

I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should be the most
effective one. We do not have money for another box so it needs to go on one
of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM 2005 needs SQL to be installed
with it. Seeing that 1) use a database of some sort as i understand it; 2)
has allready a SQL component installed and Pastel is VERY important in our
business so you don't want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL
installed where do i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use
the same SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
guys?

Craig

 

[Anders Bengtsson]

Hi MSExchangeStudent,

I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it they have
enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database on one server and
the management server on another machine. You can read more about that here
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...ary/b7b0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx


-----
Regards
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - MOM
http://www.contoso.se


M> Hi
M>
M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
M>
M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest updates.
M> (E-mail
M> server)
M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database component.
M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
M> Enterprise is
M> also installed here as Portal needs it
M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should be
M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so it
M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM 2005
M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a database of
M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you don't
M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed where do
M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the same
M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
M> guys?
M>
M> Craig
M>

 

[MSExchangeStudent]

Do i assume you mean by MOM database (the SQL server) and Management Server
(the MOM 2005 app).

Can i use the SQL that serve the Portal server to be the database for the
MOM program also or must it be a seperate database? No 3 has only 1GB of RAM
and a 1.4GHz CPU where no 2 is a much stronger server but it is the
dedicated file server of the company and PASTEL is also runing on there with
Pervasive SQL 9.6 database.

Thanks for your time!
Craig


"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
news:223703be9b3a8c9b38f4fd5e837@news.microsoft.com...
> Hi MSExchangeStudent,
>
> I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it they have
> enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database on one server and
> the management server on another machine. You can read more about that
> here
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...ary/b7b0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx
>
>
> -----
> Regards
> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
> http://www.contoso.se
>
>
> M> Hi
> M> M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
> M> M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest updates.
> M> (E-mail
> M> server)
> M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database component.
> M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
> M> Enterprise is
> M> also installed here as Portal needs it
> M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should be
> M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so it
> M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM 2005
> M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a database of
> M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
> M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you don't
> M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed where do
> M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the same
> M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
> M> guys?
> M> M> Craig
> M>
>

 

[Jeff le RONIN]

Hi craig,

You can use Portal database if :
- Authentication is Windows mode
- version is SQL 2000

Regarding perfs, if you don't need reporting, it should be ok.

If you want to use reporting, you'll have to install SQL reporting services.
So , pay attention about web site (regarding your portal web site)

regards,

--
JF BERENGUER
MCSA messaging, MCSE, MCT
NEWPORT COMMUNICATIONS

http://actelia.spaces.live.com/


"MSExchangeStudent" wrote:

> Do i assume you mean by MOM database (the SQL server) and Management Server
> (the MOM 2005 app).
>
> Can i use the SQL that serve the Portal server to be the database for the
> MOM program also or must it be a seperate database? No 3 has only 1GB of RAM
> and a 1.4GHz CPU where no 2 is a much stronger server but it is the
> dedicated file server of the company and PASTEL is also runing on there with
> Pervasive SQL 9.6 database.
>
> Thanks for your time!
> Craig
>
>
> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:223703be9b3a8c9b38f4fd5e837@news.microsoft.com...
> > Hi MSExchangeStudent,
> >
> > I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it they have
> > enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database on one server and
> > the management server on another machine. You can read more about that
> > here
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...ary/b7b0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Regards
> > Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
> > http://www.contoso.se
> >
> >
> > M> Hi
> > M> M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
> > M> M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest updates.
> > M> (E-mail
> > M> server)
> > M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database component.
> > M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
> > M> Enterprise is
> > M> also installed here as Portal needs it
> > M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should be
> > M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so it
> > M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM 2005
> > M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a database of
> > M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
> > M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you don't
> > M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed where do
> > M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the same
> > M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
> > M> guys?
> > M> M> Craig
> > M>
> >
>
>
>

 

[Anders Bengtsson]

Hi Jeff,

I dont have to be SQL 2000, you can use SQL 2005 with SP1 if you have a MOM
2005 installation CD with MOM SP1.


-----
Regards
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - MOM
http://www.contoso.se


JR> Hi craig,
JR>
JR> You can use Portal database if :
JR> - Authentication is Windows mode
JR> - version is SQL 2000
JR> Regarding perfs, if you don't need reporting, it should be ok.
JR>
JR> If you want to use reporting, you'll have to install SQL reporting
JR> services. So , pay attention about web site (regarding your portal
JR> web site)
JR>
JR> regards,
JR>
JR> http://actelia.spaces.live.com/
JR>
JR> "MSExchangeStudent" wrote:
JR>
>> Do i assume you mean by MOM database (the SQL server) and Management
>> Server (the MOM 2005 app).
>>
>> Can i use the SQL that serve the Portal server to be the database for
>> the MOM program also or must it be a seperate database? No 3 has only
>> 1GB of RAM and a 1.4GHz CPU where no 2 is a much stronger server but
>> it is the dedicated file server of the company and PASTEL is also
>> runing on there with Pervasive SQL 9.6 database.
>>
>> Thanks for your time!
>> Craig
>> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
>> news:223703be9b3a8c9b38f4fd5e837@news.microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Hi MSExchangeStudent,
>>>
>>> I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it
>>> they have enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database on
>>> one server and the management server on another machine. You can
>>> read more about that here
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/mom/mom2005/Library/b7b
>>> 0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Regards
>>> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
>>> http://www.contoso.se
>>> M> Hi
>>> M> M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
>>> M> M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest
>>> updates.
>>> M> (E-mail
>>> M> server)
>>> M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database
>>> component.
>>> M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
>>> M> Enterprise is
>>> M> also installed here as Portal needs it
>>> M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should
>>> be
>>> M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so
>>> it
>>> M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM
>>> 2005
>>> M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a database
>>> of
>>> M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
>>> M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you
>>> don't
>>> M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed
>>> where do
>>> M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the
>>> same
>>> M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
>>> M> guys?
>>> M> M> Craig
>>> M>

 

[MSExchangeStudent]

Hi, i do have sql 2005 SP1. So can i put MOM 2005 on the portal box and
share the SQL database?

Craig

"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
news:223703be9df18c9b3bcf08cd4cf@news.microsoft.com...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I dont have to be SQL 2000, you can use SQL 2005 with SP1 if you have a
> MOM 2005 installation CD with MOM SP1.
>
>
> -----
> Regards
> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
> http://www.contoso.se
>
>
> JR> Hi craig,
> JR> JR> You can use Portal database if :
> JR> - Authentication is Windows mode
> JR> - version is SQL 2000
> JR> Regarding perfs, if you don't need reporting, it should be ok.
> JR> JR> If you want to use reporting, you'll have to install SQL reporting
> JR> services. So , pay attention about web site (regarding your portal
> JR> web site)
> JR> JR> regards,
> JR> JR> http://actelia.spaces.live.com/
> JR> JR> "MSExchangeStudent" wrote:
> JR>
>>> Do i assume you mean by MOM database (the SQL server) and Management
>>> Server (the MOM 2005 app).
>>>
>>> Can i use the SQL that serve the Portal server to be the database for
>>> the MOM program also or must it be a seperate database? No 3 has only
>>> 1GB of RAM and a 1.4GHz CPU where no 2 is a much stronger server but
>>> it is the dedicated file server of the company and PASTEL is also
>>> runing on there with Pervasive SQL 9.6 database.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time!
>>> Craig
>>> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
>>> news:223703be9b3a8c9b38f4fd5e837@news.microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hi MSExchangeStudent,
>>>>
>>>> I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it
>>>> they have enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database on
>>>> one server and the management server on another machine. You can
>>>> read more about that here
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/mom/mom2005/Library/b7b
>>>> 0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Regards
>>>> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
>>>> http://www.contoso.se
>>>> M> Hi
>>>> M> M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
>>>> M> M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest
>>>> updates.
>>>> M> (E-mail
>>>> M> server)
>>>> M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database
>>>> component.
>>>> M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
>>>> M> Enterprise is
>>>> M> also installed here as Portal needs it
>>>> M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server should
>>>> be
>>>> M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so
>>>> it
>>>> M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM
>>>> 2005
>>>> M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a database
>>>> of
>>>> M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
>>>> M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you
>>>> don't
>>>> M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed
>>>> where do
>>>> M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the
>>>> same
>>>> M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help me
>>>> M> guys?
>>>> M> M> Craig
>>>> M>
>
>

 

[Anders Bengtsson]

Hi MSExchangeStudent,

From MOM point of view I belive that will work. But as always, make a backup
before you start changing anything.

-----
Regards
Anders Bengtsson
Microsoft MVP - MOM
http://www.contoso.se


M> Hi, i do have sql 2005 SP1. So can i put MOM 2005 on the portal box
M> and share the SQL database?
M>
M> Craig
M>
M> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
M> news:223703be9df18c9b3bcf08cd4cf@news.microsoft.com...
M>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I dont have to be SQL 2000, you can use SQL 2005 with SP1 if you have
>> a MOM 2005 installation CD with MOM SP1.
>>
>> -----
>> Regards
>> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
>> http://www.contoso.se
>> JR> Hi craig,
>> JR> JR> You can use Portal database if :
>> JR> - Authentication is Windows mode
>> JR> - version is SQL 2000
>> JR> Regarding perfs, if you don't need reporting, it should be ok.
>> JR> JR> If you want to use reporting, you'll have to install SQL
>> reporting
>> JR> services. So , pay attention about web site (regarding your
>> portal
>> JR> web site)
>> JR> JR> regards,
>> JR> JR> http://actelia.spaces.live.com/
>> JR> JR> "MSExchangeStudent" wrote:
>> JR>
>>>> Do i assume you mean by MOM database (the SQL server) and
>>>> Management Server (the MOM 2005 app).
>>>>
>>>> Can i use the SQL that serve the Portal server to be the database
>>>> for the MOM program also or must it be a seperate database? No 3
>>>> has only 1GB of RAM and a 1.4GHz CPU where no 2 is a much stronger
>>>> server but it is the dedicated file server of the company and
>>>> PASTEL is also runing on there with Pervasive SQL 9.6 database.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time!
>>>> Craig
>>>> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
>>>> news:223703be9b3a8c9b38f4fd5e837@news.microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hi MSExchangeStudent,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would go for number 2 or 3 if you only have those machines, it
>>>>> they have enough with hardware. You can install the MOM database
>>>>> on one server and the management server on another machine. You
>>>>> can read more about that here
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/mom/mom2005/Library/b
>>>>> 7b 0c768-64d1-486e-b9ed-7292c9e545f9.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Anders Bengtsson Microsoft MVP - MOM
>>>>> http://www.contoso.se
>>>>> M> Hi
>>>>> M> M> The following 3 servers i do have (all latest updates)
>>>>> M> M> 1) Win 2003 Server with Exchange 2003 on it. All latest
>>>>> updates.
>>>>> M> (E-mail
>>>>> M> server)
>>>>> M> 2) Win 2003 Server. Pastel is on it with its SQL database
>>>>> component.
>>>>> M> 3) Win 2003 Server. I'm setting up Portal 2003 on here. SQL
>>>>> M> Enterprise is
>>>>> M> also installed here as Portal needs it
>>>>> M> I need to install and configure MOM 2005. On which server
>>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>> M> the most effective one. We do not have money for another box so
>>>>> it
>>>>> M> needs to go on one of these boxes. I read in the notes that MOM
>>>>> 2005
>>>>> M> needs SQL to be installed with it. Seeing that 1) use a
>>>>> database
>>>>> of
>>>>> M> some sort as i understand it; 2) has allready a SQL component
>>>>> M> installed and Pastel is VERY important in our business so you
>>>>> don't
>>>>> M> want to stuff around there and 3) has allready SQL installed
>>>>> where do
>>>>> M> i put MOM. Can i put it on 3 and point the program to use the
>>>>> same
>>>>> M> SQL than what Portal does or is this not possible. Please help
>>>>> me
>>>>> M> guys?
>>>>> M> M> Craig
>>>>> M>