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kevpan815
Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
K
kevpan815
Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.
"kevpan815" wrote:
> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>
>
>
"kevpan815" wrote:
> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>
>
>
K
kevpan815
I Wish My Doctor Would Hurry Up With More Medication. Just FYI. I Just
Can't Help Myself. Just FYI. I Should Go And Install Vista On My PC. Just
FYI.
I Need To Spend Quality Time With My Latex Girlfriend. Just FYI
"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Go Away Impostor, Just FYI.
>
> "kevpan815" wrote:
>
>> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just
>> FYI.
>> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>>
>>
>>
Can't Help Myself. Just FYI. I Should Go And Install Vista On My PC. Just
FYI.
I Need To Spend Quality Time With My Latex Girlfriend. Just FYI
"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "kevpan815" wrote:
>
>> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just
>> FYI.
>> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>>
>>
>>
J
James
Dude, that's a bit strong. I'm writing this now using Windows Mail under
Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else you
can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than anything Linux
has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play NFSU2, which for the
life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu however I tried. I use
Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages and disadvantages to both
systems...
Linux Ubuntu:
Advantages:
*It is free.
* You can install any program for practically any function you can think of,
for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking the box
next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive database of
thousands of packages is also searchable.
* It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.
* Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer nearly
every time they come.
* Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol
* Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG support,
etc.
* Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
*A hugely powerful command line.
Disadvantages:
* It does not support many Windows applications at the moment, especially
games.
* Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.
* It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.
Windows Vista:
Advantages:
* Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.
I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a very
big advantage.
Disadvantages:
* It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to sit
there displaying its posh arse. lol
* There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and although
it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without a 3rd party
package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with protection like
Norton it is not completely immune.
*It is expensive.
*It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is required.
In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six of which you
cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If your dektop
freezes completely because of an application crash, simply switch to another
terminal session using a keystroke and end the application causing the
error. Then switch back to the desktop. Restart avoided, no data lost. You
would have to be a Linux guru to crash all seven terminals at once.
For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it was
great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things setup and
working. But once everything is as you want it it won't suddenly stop
working again or change somehow for no apparent reason. I'm glad to see the
back of Windows, but I don't think the people who prefer it to Linux suck, I
just think they're missing out.
I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
Regards,
JM
"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>
Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else you
can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than anything Linux
has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play NFSU2, which for the
life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu however I tried. I use
Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages and disadvantages to both
systems...
Linux Ubuntu:
Advantages:
*It is free.
* You can install any program for practically any function you can think of,
for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking the box
next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive database of
thousands of packages is also searchable.
* It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.
* Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer nearly
every time they come.
* Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol
* Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG support,
etc.
* Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
*A hugely powerful command line.
Disadvantages:
* It does not support many Windows applications at the moment, especially
games.
* Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.
* It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.
Windows Vista:
Advantages:
* Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.
I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a very
big advantage.
Disadvantages:
* It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to sit
there displaying its posh arse. lol
* There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and although
it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without a 3rd party
package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with protection like
Norton it is not completely immune.
*It is expensive.
*It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is required.
In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six of which you
cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If your dektop
freezes completely because of an application crash, simply switch to another
terminal session using a keystroke and end the application causing the
error. Then switch back to the desktop. Restart avoided, no data lost. You
would have to be a Linux guru to crash all seven terminals at once.
For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it was
great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things setup and
working. But once everything is as you want it it won't suddenly stop
working again or change somehow for no apparent reason. I'm glad to see the
back of Windows, but I don't think the people who prefer it to Linux suck, I
just think they're missing out.
I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
Regards,
JM
"kevpan815" <kevpan815@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Boy, I Wish I Could Stop Myself From All This Negative Posting. Just FYI.
> I Really Really Like Vista And People Who Use Ubuntu Suck.
>
F
Frank
James wrote:
> Dude, that's a bit strong. I'm writing this now using Windows Mail under
> Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
> course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else
> you can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than
> anything Linux has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play
> NFSU2, which for the life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu
> however I tried. I use Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages
> and disadvantages to both systems...
>
> Linux Ubuntu:
>
> Advantages:
>
> *It is free.
Negated by the fact that you need to purchase Windows, which is the only
OS anyone needs cause it will run everything.
> * You can install any program for practically any function you can think
> of, for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking
> the box next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive
> database of thousands of packages is also searchable.
Most are worthless.
> * It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.
Nope, just not true.
> * Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer
> nearly every time they come.
Nearly every time? Oh, just sometimes like Vista huh?
> * Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol
Keep telling yourself that myth. Oh, Vista is also virus safe.
> * Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
> software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG
> support, etc.
So it Vista.
> * Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
> *A hugely powerful command line.
With a Matrox cards? Oh, forget about that, I had to switch to a box
with an ATI card to get it to install. Otherwise no go!
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It does not support many Windows applications at the moment,
> especially games.
Then why even bother with it?
> * Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.
Then why bother with it?
> * It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
> directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.
There you go. All linux distros start out like a hobby and soon end up
as a job...that you didn't need.
>
>
> Windows Vista:
>
> Advantages:
>
> * Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
> hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.
The world runs on Windows.
Neuf said!
>
> I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a
> very big advantage.
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to
> sit there displaying its posh arse. lol
What the hell does that have to do with anything, huh?
> * There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and
> although it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without
> a 3rd party package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with
> protection like Norton it is not completely immune.
Bullsh*t! That is just not true.
> *It is expensive.
$90USD for Home Premium at Best Buy is expensive?
> *It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is
> required.
Not any of my Vista installs crash.
In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six
> of which you cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If
> your dektop freezes completely because of an application crash, simply
> switch to another terminal session using a keystroke and end the
> application causing the error. Then switch back to the desktop.
If an app crashes in Vista there is no need to restart Vista. Just close
and restart the app.
Restart
> avoided, no data lost. You would have to be a Linux guru to crash all
> seven terminals at once.
Read the linux ng's. There must be a lot of linux guru's...LOL!
>
> For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
> Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it
> was great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things
> setup and working. But once everything is as you want it it won't
> suddenly stop working again or change somehow for no apparent reason.
Are you on the "every six months ubuntu beta treadmill"?
> I'm glad to see the back of Windows, but I don't think the people who
> prefer it to Linux suck, I just think they're missing out.
Sorry, but I've been trying linux distros for over a decade now and
always with the hope that..."this is the distro that will actually do
what all of the linux fans say it will"....
Hasn't happened as of yet.
>
> I have the best of both worlds.
You have two OS's where only one is really needed...that one would be
Windows Vista.
You should try it. lol
Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
Frank
> Dude, that's a bit strong. I'm writing this now using Windows Mail under
> Windows Vista, but the only reason I use it is to run Visual Studio. Of
> course you can program .NET in Ubuntu, as well as nearly everything else
> you can can do in Windows, but of course VS is better by far than
> anything Linux has to offter up to .NET programmers. Oh, and I play
> NFSU2, which for the life of me I couldn't get Wine to run under Ubuntu
> however I tried. I use Ubuntu for everything else. There are advantages
> and disadvantages to both systems...
>
> Linux Ubuntu:
>
> Advantages:
>
> *It is free.
Negated by the fact that you need to purchase Windows, which is the only
OS anyone needs cause it will run everything.
> * You can install any program for practically any function you can think
> of, for no cost at all, by starting up the Add/Remove program, checking
> the box next to the software name and clicking Apply. This massive
> database of thousands of packages is also searchable.
Most are worthless.
> * It runs faster by far than Windows Vista, and is much more stable.
Nope, just not true.
> * Regular updates that do not require you to restart your computer
> nearly every time they come.
Nearly every time? Oh, just sometimes like Vista huh?
> * Ubuntu is practically immune to viruses, and there aren't any anyway. lol
Keep telling yourself that myth. Oh, Vista is also virus safe.
> * Unlike most Linux distributions, it's very easy to install proprietry
> software from the menu I mentioned earlier. DVD players, MP3, MPEG
> support, etc.
So it Vista.
> * Easy install of NVIDIA graphics drivers.
> *A hugely powerful command line.
With a Matrox cards? Oh, forget about that, I had to switch to a box
with an ATI card to get it to install. Otherwise no go!
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It does not support many Windows applications at the moment,
> especially games.
Then why even bother with it?
> * Harldy any commercial games are programmed for Linux.
Then why bother with it?
> * It can be complex to install some programs and drivers that are not
> directly supported by the Ubuntu Community.
There you go. All linux distros start out like a hobby and soon end up
as a job...that you didn't need.
>
>
> Windows Vista:
>
> Advantages:
>
> * Lots of support by the industry. Almost all manufacturers of
> hardware/software make it able to run under Windows.
The world runs on Windows.
Neuf said!
>
> I'm sorry, but this is the only advantage Windows has, although it is a
> very big advantage.
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> * It is slow, and takes up too much memory and processing power just to
> sit there displaying its posh arse. lol
What the hell does that have to do with anything, huh?
> * There are THOUSANDS if not millions of viruses for Windows, and
> although it is more secure, Vista is still practically wide open without
> a 3rd party package such as Norton IS to keep it safe, and even with
> protection like Norton it is not completely immune.
Bullsh*t! That is just not true.
> *It is expensive.
$90USD for Home Premium at Best Buy is expensive?
> *It creashes more regularly than Linux and sometimes, a restart is
> required.
Not any of my Vista installs crash.
In Linux there are seven terminal sessions open at once, six
> of which you cannot see and the seventh your desktop is running on. If
> your dektop freezes completely because of an application crash, simply
> switch to another terminal session using a keystroke and end the
> application causing the error. Then switch back to the desktop.
If an app crashes in Vista there is no need to restart Vista. Just close
and restart the app.
Restart
> avoided, no data lost. You would have to be a Linux guru to crash all
> seven terminals at once.
Read the linux ng's. There must be a lot of linux guru's...LOL!
>
> For me, don't know about you, these are reasons enough to be a fan of
> Ubuntu. I used Windows for years, and until I used Linux I thought it
> was great. Like I said, Linux can be a pain sometimes, getting things
> setup and working. But once everything is as you want it it won't
> suddenly stop working again or change somehow for no apparent reason.
Are you on the "every six months ubuntu beta treadmill"?
> I'm glad to see the back of Windows, but I don't think the people who
> prefer it to Linux suck, I just think they're missing out.
Sorry, but I've been trying linux distros for over a decade now and
always with the hope that..."this is the distro that will actually do
what all of the linux fans say it will"....
Hasn't happened as of yet.
>
> I have the best of both worlds.
You have two OS's where only one is really needed...that one would be
Windows Vista.
You should try it. lol
Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
Frank
S
Synapse Syndrome
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
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> You should try it. lol
>
> Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
> Frank
Worthless creep!
ss.
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> You should try it. lol
>
> Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
> Frank
Worthless creep!
ss.
F
Frank
Synapse Syndrome wrote:
> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> You should try it. lol
>>
>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>Frank
>
>
>
> Worthless creep!
>
> ss.
>
>
Stupid sh*thead!
Frank
> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> You should try it. lol
>>
>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>Frank
>
>
>
> Worthless creep!
>
> ss.
>
>
Stupid sh*thead!
Frank
A
Adam Albright
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:31:47 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>
>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> You should try it. lol
>>>
>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> Worthless creep!
>>
>> ss.
>>
>>
>
>Stupid sh*thead!
>Frank
Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
of the English language.
>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>
>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> You should try it. lol
>>>
>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> Worthless creep!
>>
>> ss.
>>
>>
>
>Stupid sh*thead!
>Frank
Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
of the English language.
T
thetruthhurts @homail.com
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:45:56 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:31:47 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
>
>>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>>
>>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> You should try it. lol
>>>>
>>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Worthless creep!
>>>
>>> ss.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Stupid sh*thead!
>>Frank
>
>Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
>of the English language.
Come on Frankie, how about a few capn crunch comments
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:31:47 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
>
>>Synapse Syndrome wrote:
>>
>>> "Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ui$P3nCoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> You should try it. lol
>>>>
>>>>Already did...it lasted only two weeks...LOL!
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Worthless creep!
>>>
>>> ss.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Stupid sh*thead!
>>Frank
>
>Again the idiot Frank shows off his extensive vocabulary and command
>of the English language.
Come on Frankie, how about a few capn crunch comments
R
R0bb0b
James989530 Wrote:
>
> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>
I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
--
R0bb0b
>
> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>
I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
--
R0bb0b
J
John Whitworth
"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
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>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for the 8
years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable for
mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping up',
there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends millions
ensuring that their product provides what their target audience wants.
Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu
incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in
the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to
what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the
same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
hey, it has some nice screensavers!
Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice or
other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office software.
JW
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for the 8
years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable for
mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping up',
there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends millions
ensuring that their product provides what their target audience wants.
Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu
incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in
the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to
what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the
same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
hey, it has some nice screensavers!
Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice or
other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office software.
JW
A
Alias
John Whitworth wrote:
>
> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>
>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>
>>
>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in
> it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as
> it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It
> doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid
> test for most people would be being able to install their copy of MS
> Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>
> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>
> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
> Office software.
>
> JW
You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along
way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change
the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized.
Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners as well.
Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
What can be done with Ubuntu:
Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.
and much more!
What you can't do with Ubuntu:
Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.
Alias
>
> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>
>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>
>>
>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in
> it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as
> it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It
> doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid
> test for most people would be being able to install their copy of MS
> Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>
> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>
> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
> Office software.
>
> JW
You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along
way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change
the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized.
Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners as well.
Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
What can be done with Ubuntu:
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.
and much more!
What you can't do with Ubuntu:
Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.
Alias
V
Vlieger
"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> schreef in bericht
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
>
> --
> R0bb0b
You didn't notice all the security problems that Apple does not want to deal
with? You didn't notice at all that Vista showed in real life to be the
safest of all? You just hate Microsoft because it is Microsoft? You did not
notice the first huges leaks that are found in Open Office? Dream on.
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
>
> --
> R0bb0b
You didn't notice all the security problems that Apple does not want to deal
with? You didn't notice at all that Vista showed in real life to be the
safest of all? You just hate Microsoft because it is Microsoft? You did not
notice the first huges leaks that are found in Open Office? Dream on.
V
Vlieger
"R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> schreef in bericht
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
>
> --
> R0bb0b
By the way, what are you doing here?
news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>
> James989530 Wrote:
>>
>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>
>
> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>
>
> --
> R0bb0b
By the way, what are you doing here?
B
Bill Yanaire
The way it really is with Ubuntu
"Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.co> wrote in message
news:g7bu54$4ri$1@aioe.org...
> John Whitworth wrote:
>>
>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>
>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>
>>>
>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>
>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
>> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
>> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
>> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's
>> Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did
>> back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't
>> listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for
>> most people would be being able to install their copy of MS Office
>> natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>
>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
>> hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>
>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice
>> or other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office
>> software.
>>
>> JW
>
> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You haven't
> been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and needs no
> terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along way since
> I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change the grub order
> with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized. Linux friendly
> printers install with three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in
> and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>
> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>
> Email
Yea you can do email
> Surf the web
Yea you can surf the web
> Burn CDs.
You probably can burn CD's - Maybe
> Rip CDs.
You might be able to rip CD's - Maybe
> Listen to music.
You don't need a computer to listen to music
> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
You don't need a computer to watch videos and DVD's
> Scan and print.
Maybe.
> Spreadsheets.
Only for adding 10-20 numbers.
> Presentations
Best left to Microsoft Powerpoint
> Newsgroups.
Where Alias lives to preach Ubuntu
> HTML editing.
Basic editing you can do
> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Ubuntu is great at playing games. Ubuntu is designed as a TOY and not a
real OS.
> Make videos.
Better leave this to the big boys. Can you say MAC or PC?
> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Yea you can download photos and organize them. But just a few.
> Translations.
Yes, you need someone to help translate Ubuntu into English
> Use a dictionary
Sure - Surf to the WEB and find the dictionary.
> Learn how to touch type.
Wow - I didn't know you can type using Ubuntu! The designers must have
spent years on this one!!!!
> Edit images.
Yea, very basic editing. For power work use Photoshop on a PC or MAC.
> Send and receive a fax.
You don't need a Ubuntu for this. Your printer can do this task alone!
> Take screenshots.
Wow - Ubuntu can take screenshots? I better write my Mama.
> Create .PDF files.
BFD
> Create and use a data base.
Oh boy, create a simple database with maybe 100 entries.
> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Again. BFD.
> Windows Live Messenger.
> IRC.
> Bluetooth.
>
> and much more!
>
> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>
Any real work with any real value.
"Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.co> wrote in message
news:g7bu54$4ri$1@aioe.org...
> John Whitworth wrote:
>>
>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>
>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>
>>>
>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>
>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
>> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
>> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
>> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's
>> Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did
>> back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't
>> listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for
>> most people would be being able to install their copy of MS Office
>> natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>
>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
>> hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>
>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice
>> or other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office
>> software.
>>
>> JW
>
> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You haven't
> been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and needs no
> terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along way since
> I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change the grub order
> with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized. Linux friendly
> printers install with three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in
> and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>
> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>
Yea you can do email
> Surf the web
Yea you can surf the web
> Burn CDs.
You probably can burn CD's - Maybe
> Rip CDs.
You might be able to rip CD's - Maybe
> Listen to music.
You don't need a computer to listen to music
> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
You don't need a computer to watch videos and DVD's
> Scan and print.
Maybe.
> Spreadsheets.
Only for adding 10-20 numbers.
> Presentations
Best left to Microsoft Powerpoint
> Newsgroups.
Where Alias lives to preach Ubuntu
> HTML editing.
Basic editing you can do
> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Ubuntu is great at playing games. Ubuntu is designed as a TOY and not a
real OS.
> Make videos.
Better leave this to the big boys. Can you say MAC or PC?
> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Yea you can download photos and organize them. But just a few.
> Translations.
Yes, you need someone to help translate Ubuntu into English
> Use a dictionary
Sure - Surf to the WEB and find the dictionary.
> Learn how to touch type.
Wow - I didn't know you can type using Ubuntu! The designers must have
spent years on this one!!!!
> Edit images.
Yea, very basic editing. For power work use Photoshop on a PC or MAC.
> Send and receive a fax.
You don't need a Ubuntu for this. Your printer can do this task alone!
> Take screenshots.
Wow - Ubuntu can take screenshots? I better write my Mama.
> Create .PDF files.
BFD
> Create and use a data base.
Oh boy, create a simple database with maybe 100 entries.
> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Again. BFD.
> Windows Live Messenger.
> IRC.
> Bluetooth.
>
> and much more!
>
> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>
Any real work with any real value.
A
Alias
Re: The way it really is with Ubuntu
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.co> wrote in message
> news:g7bu54$4ri$1@aioe.org...
>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>
>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
>>> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
>>> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
>>> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's
>>> Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did
>>> back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't
>>> listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for
>>> most people would be being able to install their copy of MS Office
>>> natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>
>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
>>> hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>
>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice
>>> or other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office
>>> software.
>>>
>>> JW
>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You haven't
>> been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and needs no
>> terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along way since
>> I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change the grub order
>> with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized. Linux friendly
>> printers install with three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in
>> and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>>
>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Email
>
> Yea you can do email
>
>> Surf the web
>
> Yea you can surf the web
>
>> Burn CDs.
>
> You probably can burn CD's - Maybe
No, definitely and much quicker than Nero.
>
>> Rip CDs.
>
> You might be able to rip CD's - Maybe
Definitely and much quicker than Windows Media Player.
>
>> Listen to music.
>
> You don't need a computer to listen to music
Mine is even connected to my stereo.
>
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>
> You don't need a computer to watch videos and DVD's
True but Ubuntu can do it if you want to use your computer. Windows can
too, some of them. My kid likes Japanese videos and Windows won't cut it
but Ubuntu does. Kinda difficult to watch YouTube on your TV, sonny.
>
>> Scan and print.
>
> Maybe.
Definitely and much easier to configure.
>
>
>> Spreadsheets.
>
> Only for adding 10-20 numbers.
False. I have a few with a lot more numbers than that, sonny.
>
>
>> Presentations
>
> Best left to Microsoft Powerpoint
Your opinion.
>
>> Newsgroups.
>
> Where Alias lives to preach Ubuntu
False again. I spend maybe a grand total of a half an hour on
newsgroups. I type quickly.
>
>> HTML editing.
>
> Basic editing you can do
Which is what most people do, if that.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>
> Ubuntu is great at playing games. Ubuntu is designed as a TOY and not a
> real OS.
Actually, Windows is better at games. Does your conclusion still hold,
sonny?
>
>> Make videos.
>
> Better leave this to the big boys. Can you say MAC or PC?
I can make videos all day long with Ubuntu.
>
>
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>
> Yea you can download photos and organize them. But just a few.
A few what? Photos? I just uploaded an entire camera's worth, over 200
photos.
>
>
>> Translations.
>
> Yes, you need someone to help translate Ubuntu into English
No, YOU need someone to help you. I know what it means. And, if you had
ever installed or ran a Live CD, you'd know what it means the first time
you open Firefox.
>
>> Use a dictionary
>
> Sure - Surf to the WEB and find the dictionary.
NO! It has a dictionary program that comes with it.
>
>> Learn how to touch type.
>
> Wow - I didn't know you can type using Ubuntu! The designers must have
> spent years on this one!!!!
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I wrote "touch"
type. Ya know, the kind of typing where you use most of your fingers and
never look at the keyboard?
>
>
>> Edit images.
>
> Yea, very basic editing. For power work use Photoshop on a PC or MAC.
GIMP is just as powerful if you know how to use it (you don't).
>
>
>> Send and receive a fax.
>
> You don't need a Ubuntu for this. Your printer can do this task alone!
And then have the printer email it to someone?
>
>
>> Take screenshots.
>
> Wow - Ubuntu can take screenshots? I better write my Mama.
Some people like that feature.
>
>
>> Create .PDF files.
>
> BFD
Some people like that feature.
>
>
>> Create and use a data base.
>
> Oh boy, create a simple database with maybe 100 entries.
I have one with over a thousand. I can see you haven't tried Open Office
lately.
>
>
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>
> Again. BFD.
IM is one of the most popular programs around and you say "BFD"!?
>
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
> Any real work with any real value.
No, you snipped this because it doesn't mesh with your fear, uncertainty
and doubt (FUD):
What you can't do with Ubuntu:
Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.
Alias
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@mascaradoyanónimo.co> wrote in message
> news:g7bu54$4ri$1@aioe.org...
>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>
>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on the
>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently 'stepping
>>> up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS spends
>>> millions ensuring that their product provides what their target audience
>>> wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter. Linux (in it's
>>> Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually the same as it did
>>> back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't
>>> listen to what the majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for
>>> most people would be being able to install their copy of MS Office
>>> natively, with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>
>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop. But
>>> hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>
>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want OpenOffice
>>> or other such applications. They want to use their Works or Office
>>> software.
>>>
>>> JW
>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You haven't
>> been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and needs no
>> terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come along way since
>> I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now change the grub order
>> with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically recognized. Linux friendly
>> printers install with three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in
>> and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>>
>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>
>
> Yea you can do email
>
>> Surf the web
>
> Yea you can surf the web
>
>> Burn CDs.
>
> You probably can burn CD's - Maybe
No, definitely and much quicker than Nero.
>
>> Rip CDs.
>
> You might be able to rip CD's - Maybe
Definitely and much quicker than Windows Media Player.
>
>> Listen to music.
>
> You don't need a computer to listen to music
Mine is even connected to my stereo.
>
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>
> You don't need a computer to watch videos and DVD's
True but Ubuntu can do it if you want to use your computer. Windows can
too, some of them. My kid likes Japanese videos and Windows won't cut it
but Ubuntu does. Kinda difficult to watch YouTube on your TV, sonny.
>
>> Scan and print.
>
> Maybe.
Definitely and much easier to configure.
>
>
>> Spreadsheets.
>
> Only for adding 10-20 numbers.
False. I have a few with a lot more numbers than that, sonny.
>
>
>> Presentations
>
> Best left to Microsoft Powerpoint
Your opinion.
>
>> Newsgroups.
>
> Where Alias lives to preach Ubuntu
False again. I spend maybe a grand total of a half an hour on
newsgroups. I type quickly.
>
>> HTML editing.
>
> Basic editing you can do
Which is what most people do, if that.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>
> Ubuntu is great at playing games. Ubuntu is designed as a TOY and not a
> real OS.
Actually, Windows is better at games. Does your conclusion still hold,
sonny?
>
>> Make videos.
>
> Better leave this to the big boys. Can you say MAC or PC?
I can make videos all day long with Ubuntu.
>
>
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>
> Yea you can download photos and organize them. But just a few.
A few what? Photos? I just uploaded an entire camera's worth, over 200
photos.
>
>
>> Translations.
>
> Yes, you need someone to help translate Ubuntu into English
No, YOU need someone to help you. I know what it means. And, if you had
ever installed or ran a Live CD, you'd know what it means the first time
you open Firefox.
>
>> Use a dictionary
>
> Sure - Surf to the WEB and find the dictionary.
NO! It has a dictionary program that comes with it.
>
>> Learn how to touch type.
>
> Wow - I didn't know you can type using Ubuntu! The designers must have
> spent years on this one!!!!
You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. I wrote "touch"
type. Ya know, the kind of typing where you use most of your fingers and
never look at the keyboard?
>
>
>> Edit images.
>
> Yea, very basic editing. For power work use Photoshop on a PC or MAC.
GIMP is just as powerful if you know how to use it (you don't).
>
>
>> Send and receive a fax.
>
> You don't need a Ubuntu for this. Your printer can do this task alone!
And then have the printer email it to someone?
>
>
>> Take screenshots.
>
> Wow - Ubuntu can take screenshots? I better write my Mama.
Some people like that feature.
>
>
>> Create .PDF files.
>
> BFD
Some people like that feature.
>
>
>> Create and use a data base.
>
> Oh boy, create a simple database with maybe 100 entries.
I have one with over a thousand. I can see you haven't tried Open Office
lately.
>
>
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>
> Again. BFD.
IM is one of the most popular programs around and you say "BFD"!?
>
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
> Any real work with any real value.
No, you snipped this because it doesn't mesh with your fear, uncertainty
and doubt (FUD):
What you can't do with Ubuntu:
Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.
Alias
A
Alias
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on
>>>> the
>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is
>>> another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand,
>>> looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red Hat was
>>> due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the majority of
>>> people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people would be being
>>> able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the same ease
>>> as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>
>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
>>> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>
>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority
>>> of people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works
>>> or Office software.
>>>
>>> JW
>>
>>
>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come
>> along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now
>> change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically
>> recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three clicks,
>> scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software
>> on a CD required.
>>
>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Email
>> Surf the web
>> Burn CDs.
>> Rip CDs.
>> Listen to music.
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>> Scan and print.
>> Spreadsheets.
>> Presentations
>> Newsgroups.
>> HTML editing.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>> Make videos.
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>> Translations.
>> Use a dictionary
>> Learn how to touch type.
>> Edit images.
>> Send and receive a fax.
>> Take screenshots.
>> Create .PDF files.
>> Create and use a data base.
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Worry about:
>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>> DRM,
>> Viruses,
>> Root kits,
>> Spyware,
>> and
>> Malware.
>>
>>
>> Alias
>
> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone and cannot post
without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
Alias
> Alias wrote:
>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to. I
>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise I
>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to get
>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on
>>>> the
>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is
>>> another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand,
>>> looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red Hat was
>>> due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the majority of
>>> people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people would be being
>>> able to install their copy of MS Office natively, with the same ease
>>> as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>
>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
>>> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>
>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority
>>> of people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works
>>> or Office software.
>>>
>>> JW
>>
>>
>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come
>> along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now
>> change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically
>> recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three clicks,
>> scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software
>> on a CD required.
>>
>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Surf the web
>> Burn CDs.
>> Rip CDs.
>> Listen to music.
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>> Scan and print.
>> Spreadsheets.
>> Presentations
>> Newsgroups.
>> HTML editing.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>> Make videos.
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>> Translations.
>> Use a dictionary
>> Learn how to touch type.
>> Edit images.
>> Send and receive a fax.
>> Take screenshots.
>> Create .PDF files.
>> Create and use a data base.
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Worry about:
>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>> DRM,
>> Viruses,
>> Root kits,
>> Spyware,
>> and
>> Malware.
>>
>>
>> Alias
>
> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone and cannot post
without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
Alias
F
Flight
"Frank" <aliasis@asheep-fukkin.plc> schreef in bericht
news:Ofe3Xc99IHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>>>>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>>>>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently
>>>>> 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS
>>>>> spends millions ensuring that their product provides what their target
>>>>> audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter.
>>>>> Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually
>>>>> the same as it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over
>>>>> the world. It doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm
>>>>> sure the acid test for most people would be being able to install
>>>>> their copy of MS Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows.
>>>>> Can you do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
>>>>> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>>>>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
>>>>> Office software.
>>>>>
>>>>> JW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
>>>> needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come
>>>> along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now
>>>> change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically
>>>> recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners
>>>> as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD
>>>> required.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>> Surf the web
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>> Presentations
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>> Make videos.
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>> Translations.
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>> Edit images.
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>> IRC.
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> and much more!
>>>>
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Worry about:
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>> DRM,
>>>> Viruses,
>>>> Root kits,
>>>> Spyware,
>>>> and
>>>> Malware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>
>>
>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>
> Liar!
>
> and cannot post
>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>
> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
> troll.
Just a small question: if you like Ubuntu so much what are you doing here
then? Let's help each other with Vista and keep the rest off this group,
it's off topic here. Who's the troll here????
news:Ofe3Xc99IHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have to.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without, otherwise
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been for
>>>>> the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be suitable
>>>>> for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was apparently
>>>>> 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and all sorts. MS
>>>>> spends millions ensuring that their product provides what their target
>>>>> audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not is another matter.
>>>>> Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other hand, looks virtually
>>>>> the same as it did back in the days when Red Hat was due to take over
>>>>> the world. It doesn't listen to what the majority of people want. I'm
>>>>> sure the acid test for most people would be being able to install
>>>>> their copy of MS Office natively, with the same ease as in Windows.
>>>>> Can you do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a desktop.
>>>>> But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority of
>>>>> people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works or
>>>>> Office software.
>>>>>
>>>>> JW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box and
>>>> needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has come
>>>> along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you can now
>>>> change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are automagically
>>>> recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three clicks, scanners
>>>> as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese. No software on a CD
>>>> required.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Surf the web
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>> Presentations
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>> Make videos.
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>> Translations.
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>> Edit images.
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>> IRC.
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> and much more!
>>>>
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Worry about:
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>> DRM,
>>>> Viruses,
>>>> Root kits,
>>>> Spyware,
>>>> and
>>>> Malware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>
>>
>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>
> Liar!
>
> and cannot post
>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>
> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
> troll.
Just a small question: if you like Ubuntu so much what are you doing here
then? Let's help each other with Vista and keep the rest off this group,
it's off topic here. Who's the troll here????
F
FB
Flight wrote:
>
> "Frank" <aliasis@asheep-fukkin.plc> schreef in bericht
> news:Ofe3Xc99IHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have
>>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without,
>>>>>>> otherwise I
>>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse
>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>>>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>>>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>>>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>>>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>>>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not
>>>>>> is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other
>>>>>> hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red
>>>>>> Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the
>>>>>> majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
>>>>>> would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively,
>>>>>> with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a
>>>>>> desktop. But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The
>>>>>> majority of people that I know through work and personal life, do
>>>>>> not want OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use
>>>>>> their Works or Office software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>>>>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has
>>>>> come along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you
>>>>> can now change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are
>>>>> automagically recognized. Linux friendly printers install with
>>>>> three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops
>>>>> Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Email
>>>>> Surf the web
>>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>>> Listen to music.
>>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>>> Scan and print.
>>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>>> Presentations
>>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>>> HTML editing.
>>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>>> Make videos.
>>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>>> Translations.
>>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>>> Edit images.
>>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>>> IRC.
>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> and much more!
>>>>>
>>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Worry about:
>>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>>> DRM,
>>>>> Viruses,
>>>>> Root kits,
>>>>> Spyware,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Malware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>>
>>
>> Liar!
>>
>> and cannot post
>>
>>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>>
>>
>> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
>> troll.
>
>
> Just a small question: if you like Ubuntu so much what are you doing
> here then?
He has no idea why he's here. He's an out of control linux troll who is
too broke to afford Vista.
IOW's he's very jealous of all Vista users.
Let's help each other with Vista and keep the rest off this
> group, it's off topic here. Who's the troll here????
>
> "Frank" <aliasis@asheep-fukkin.plc> schreef in bericht
> news:Ofe3Xc99IHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have
>>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without,
>>>>>>> otherwise I
>>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse
>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the
>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>>>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>>>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>>>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>>>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>>>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not
>>>>>> is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other
>>>>>> hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red
>>>>>> Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the
>>>>>> majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
>>>>>> would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively,
>>>>>> with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a
>>>>>> desktop. But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The
>>>>>> majority of people that I know through work and personal life, do
>>>>>> not want OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use
>>>>>> their Works or Office software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>>>>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has
>>>>> come along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you
>>>>> can now change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are
>>>>> automagically recognized. Linux friendly printers install with
>>>>> three clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops
>>>>> Cheese. No software on a CD required.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Surf the web
>>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>>> Listen to music.
>>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>>> Scan and print.
>>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>>> Presentations
>>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>>> HTML editing.
>>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>>> Make videos.
>>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>>> Translations.
>>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>>> Edit images.
>>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>>> IRC.
>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> and much more!
>>>>>
>>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Worry about:
>>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>>> DRM,
>>>>> Viruses,
>>>>> Root kits,
>>>>> Spyware,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Malware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>>
>>
>> Liar!
>>
>> and cannot post
>>
>>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>>
>>
>> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
>> troll.
>
>
> Just a small question: if you like Ubuntu so much what are you doing
> here then?
He has no idea why he's here. He's an out of control linux troll who is
too broke to afford Vista.
IOW's he's very jealous of all Vista users.
Let's help each other with Vista and keep the rest off this
> group, it's off topic here. Who's the troll here????
A
Alias
Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have
>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without,
>>>>>> otherwise I
>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse
>>>>>> to get
>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not
>>>>> is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other
>>>>> hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red
>>>>> Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the
>>>>> majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
>>>>> would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively,
>>>>> with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a
>>>>> desktop. But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority
>>>>> of people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works
>>>>> or Office software.
>>>>>
>>>>> JW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>>>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has
>>>> come along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you
>>>> can now change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are
>>>> automagically recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three
>>>> clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese.
>>>> No software on a CD required.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Email
>>>> Surf the web
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>> Presentations
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>> Make videos.
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>> Translations.
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>> Edit images.
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>> IRC.
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> and much more!
>>>>
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Worry about:
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>> DRM,
>>>> Viruses,
>>>> Root kits,
>>>> Spyware,
>>>> and
>>>> Malware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>
>>
>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>
> Liar!
Fraid not, Frankie. You're the liar here. You never help anyone. All you
do all day long is lie, insult, use profanity, make up weird sexual
stories about people and bluster.
>
> and cannot post
>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>
> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
> troll.
I'm not lying and you know it.
Alias
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Whitworth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "R0bb0b" <rob@ositnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:R0bb0b.3dpi51@no-mx.tabletquestions.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James989530 Wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the best of both worlds. You should try it. lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also share my box with windoze and linux, only because I have
>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>> have a small partition of 10g set asside for windoze and only use it
>>>>>> for specific .EXEs that I unfortunately cannot do without,
>>>>>> otherwise I
>>>>>> would prefer to get rid of it all together. I absolutely refuse
>>>>>> to get
>>>>>> Vista, am still using XP, I just don't like the way that MS relys
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> public to debug their OS. But you know what, Mac is getting a lot of
>>>>>> attention, especially now that they are using intel, and linux is
>>>>>> really stepping up now, I think that this is the beginning of the end
>>>>>> of MS. Oh please oh please be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be fooled. Linux isn't 'stepping up'. It is not, hasn't been
>>>>> for the 8 years that I've followed it, and probably never will be
>>>>> suitable for mainstream desktop computing. Last time it was
>>>>> apparently 'stepping up', there were Linux magazines available and
>>>>> all sorts. MS spends millions ensuring that their product provides
>>>>> what their target audience wants. Whether it works smoothly or not
>>>>> is another matter. Linux (in it's Ubuntu incarnation) on the other
>>>>> hand, looks virtually the same as it did back in the days when Red
>>>>> Hat was due to take over the world. It doesn't listen to what the
>>>>> majority of people want. I'm sure the acid test for most people
>>>>> would be being able to install their copy of MS Office natively,
>>>>> with the same ease as in Windows. Can you do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is great as a server, but it's too raw and clunky as a
>>>>> desktop. But hey, it has some nice screensavers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Great as a toy...not so great as a business/work tool. The majority
>>>>> of people that I know through work and personal life, do not want
>>>>> OpenOffice or other such applications. They want to use their Works
>>>>> or Office software.
>>>>>
>>>>> JW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You need to hang out with a different crowd, one that thinks. You
>>>> haven't been following anything because Ubuntu works out of the box
>>>> and needs no terminal work to get it or keep it going. Ubuntu has
>>>> come along way since I first installed it in 06. For example, you
>>>> can now change the grub order with a GUI. NTFS drives are
>>>> automagically recognized. Linux friendly printers install with three
>>>> clicks, scanners as well. Plug the web cam in and out pops Cheese.
>>>> No software on a CD required.
>>>>
>>>> What can be done with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Surf the web
>>>> Burn CDs.
>>>> Rip CDs.
>>>> Listen to music.
>>>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>>>> Scan and print.
>>>> Spreadsheets.
>>>> Presentations
>>>> Newsgroups.
>>>> HTML editing.
>>>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>>>> Make videos.
>>>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>>>> Translations.
>>>> Use a dictionary
>>>> Learn how to touch type.
>>>> Edit images.
>>>> Send and receive a fax.
>>>> Take screenshots.
>>>> Create .PDF files.
>>>> Create and use a data base.
>>>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>>>> Windows Live Messenger.
>>>> IRC.
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> and much more!
>>>>
>>>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>>>
>>>> Worry about:
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>> DRM,
>>>> Viruses,
>>>> Root kits,
>>>> Spyware,
>>>> and
>>>> Malware.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for proving (once again) that you are a lying linux troll!
>>
>>
>> No, Frank, you're the one that never helps anyone...
>
> Liar!
Fraid not, Frankie. You're the liar here. You never help anyone. All you
do all day long is lie, insult, use profanity, make up weird sexual
stories about people and bluster.
>
> and cannot post
>> without including some unfounded insults, lies, profanity and bluster.
>
> More of your lies. You're sick in the head! Get lost troll. Stop lying
> troll.
I'm not lying and you know it.
Alias