HP Pavillion a1632x

[walter deodiaus]

I have a HP Pavillion a1632x which came with XP, but was advertised to be

upgradeable to

Vista. Later on, this option was not supported. This falls on false

advertising! Doesn't HP have trial drivers? I called HP, but they don't

seem to support Vista for this machine.

Last week, I was infected by a virus and was unable to recover my XP OS.

I received a copy of Vista at a trade show, and decided to install it, as I

did not want to shell out $30 for the CDs. Besides, I heard that Vista was

far better after Service pack 1.

Does anyone know where to get device drivers for the NVidea nForce Network

Controller? I tried both the HP & nvidea, but none of those work.

Moreover, HP does not talk much about the exact specs on the network

controler (which is on board).

I guess my time is cheap, so I am willing to spend a couple of hours before

breaking down and ordering the XP reinstall cds!

 

[DL]

Where did you look?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...uk&dlc=en&submit.y=7&submit.x=5&lang=en&cc=uk



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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>I have a HP Pavillion a1632x which came with XP, but was advertised to be

>upgradeable to

> Vista. Later on, this option was not supported. This falls on false

> advertising! Doesn't HP have trial drivers? I called HP, but they don't

> seem to support Vista for this machine.

> Last week, I was infected by a virus and was unable to recover my XP OS.

> I received a copy of Vista at a trade show, and decided to install it, as

> I did not want to shell out $30 for the CDs. Besides, I heard that Vista

> was far better after Service pack 1.

> Does anyone know where to get device drivers for the NVidea nForce Network

> Controller? I tried both the HP & nvidea, but none of those work.

> Moreover, HP does not talk much about the exact specs on the network

> controler (which is on board).

> I guess my time is cheap, so I am willing to spend a couple of hours

> before breaking down and ordering the XP reinstall cds!

>

 

[David B.]

Why are you whining about HP on a Microsoft discussion group, your post has

nothing to do with Vista, the problem isn't that drivers aren't available,

it's that you haven't looked for them, even in the most obvious of places,

HP's support website, which DL provided a link to.



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"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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>I have a HP Pavillion a1632x which came with XP, but was advertised to be

>upgradeable to

> Vista. Later on, this option was not supported. This falls on false

> advertising! Doesn't HP have trial drivers? I called HP, but they don't

> seem to support Vista for this machine.

> Last week, I was infected by a virus and was unable to recover my XP OS.

> I received a copy of Vista at a trade show, and decided to install it, as

> I did not want to shell out $30 for the CDs. Besides, I heard that Vista

> was far better after Service pack 1.

> Does anyone know where to get device drivers for the NVidea nForce Network

> Controller? I tried both the HP & nvidea, but none of those work.

> Moreover, HP does not talk much about the exact specs on the network

> controler (which is on board).

> I guess my time is cheap, so I am willing to spend a couple of hours

> before breaking down and ordering the XP reinstall cds!

>

 

[walter deodiaus]

I did look on the HP & NVidia site and found some drivers. They did not work

well..

I really wanted alternate locations. The reason I posted to msnews was that

I was hoping for more insight on drivers, especially on how they work

differently under Vista as opposed to XP.

I would hope that the technical issue of drivers which worked under XP but

not under Vista would be well discussed here.

 

[David B.]

If you want alternate drivers I would suggest a google search, discussion of

the differences between XP and Vista drivers isn't a common discussion.

HP provides Vista drivers for that machine, so saying they don't support it

is false. Also, drivers are not a Microsoft related discussion in general as

they are provided by the hardware mfg's, not Microsoft.



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"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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>I did look on the HP & NVidia site and found some drivers. They did not

>work well..

> I really wanted alternate locations. The reason I posted to msnews was

> that I was hoping for more insight on drivers, especially on how they work

> differently under Vista as opposed to XP.

> I would hope that the technical issue of drivers which worked under XP but

> not under Vista would be well discussed here.

>

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi,



Drivers are bits of software written so that the operating system can

address the system hardware. Drivers are always specific to the operating

system (usually singular, but sometimes 2 or 3) in question, meaning they

are always only for use with a designated OS. In the case of HP systems,

like many manufacturers, the hardware is proprietary and requires drivers

written specifically for it. Quite often these are not found in the general

OS-provided driver library (each version of Windows comes with thousands,

but this does not cover every concievable hardware configuration and some

are designed only to provide basic, not full, functionality), so you have to

get them from HP. If there are non available, or if they don't work well,

there is not much you can do about it other than complain to the

manufacturer.



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Best of Luck,



Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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>I did look on the HP & NVidia site and found some drivers. They did not

>work well..

> I really wanted alternate locations. The reason I posted to msnews was

> that I was hoping for more insight on drivers, especially on how they work

> differently under Vista as opposed to XP.

> I would hope that the technical issue of drivers which worked under XP but

> not under Vista would be well discussed here.

>

 

[Curious]

I had a scanner which did not have Vista drivers but I was able to get it

operational by installing the scaner's XP drivers in XP compatibility mode

and also running the scanner from XP compatibility mode. Due to major

changes in the security design of the OS kernel between XP and Vista all/or

almost all hardware vendors had to rewrite their drivers for Vista.

When you say you had trouble with Vista drivers from both HP and Nvidia what

do you meant? Did you confirm that these drivers did get installed and that

they were the ones being used by Vista using Device Manager?



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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> I did look on the HP & NVidia site and found some drivers. They did not

> work well..

> I really wanted alternate locations. The reason I posted to msnews was

> that I was hoping for more insight on drivers, especially on how they work

> differently under Vista as opposed to XP.

> I would hope that the technical issue of drivers which worked under XP but

> not under Vista would be well discussed here.

>

 

[walter deodiaus]

I went to my neighborhood small computer store and bought a DLink DFE-530TX+

10/100 pci network adaptor which had an MS Vista compatibility logo on it.

It cost about $18, so I bought it. The merchant told me that it would not

work either, but for $44, would make my existing one work. If that were

all, I might consider that, but who knows what other devices might not work

once I get going. Any suggestions on the secret? Are there any websites

which might be a better avenue than this one.

The new adaptor did not work either.

I am unemployed, so spending money is tough. For $30+, I can get XP from HP

with all the drivers on it. I think this is what I am going to do.

BTW, 20 years ago, I use to write DSP integration modules for PC, so I am

not completely unknowledgeable.

 

[walter deodiaus]

It said it was installed and running, but it keeps disconnecting and

reconnecting from the network. The cable is seated firmly and the computer

is still, so its not a louse connection.



"Curious" wrote in message

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>I had a scanner which did not have Vista drivers but I was able to get it

>operational by installing the scaner's XP drivers in XP compatibility mode

>and also running the scanner from XP compatibility mode. Due to major

>changes in the security design of the OS kernel between XP and Vista all/or

>almost all hardware vendors had to rewrite their drivers for Vista.

> When you say you had trouble with Vista drivers from both HP and Nvidia

> what do you meant? Did you confirm that these drivers did get installed

> and that they were the ones being used by Vista using Device Manager?

>

> "walter deodiaus" wrote in message

> news:ODSY08lrKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I did look on the HP & NVidia site and found some drivers. They did not

>> work well..

>> I really wanted alternate locations. The reason I posted to msnews was

>> that I was hoping for more insight on drivers, especially on how they

>> work differently under Vista as opposed to XP.

>> I would hope that the technical issue of drivers which worked under XP

>> but not under Vista would be well discussed here.

>>

 

[walter deodiaus]

BTW this all worked under XP before virus hit.

Also, the network connector works under Ubanto Linux

 

[Curious]

Why were you unable to recover/reinstall the original XP OS? Didn't the

system come with a recovery partition and instructions on how to reinstall

the OS and on how to back up the recovery partition?



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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> BTW this all worked under XP before virus hit.

> Also, the network connector works under Ubanto Linux

>

 

[walter deodiaus]

No, the recovery process did not work. It reinstalls, but still gives me an

error with lsass.exe. I called HP, and they said I needed the CDs which

cost $30 to continue.

I got curious and decided to install Vista, which I got from a trade show.



As it turns out, if I disconnect my Linksys Wireless G router and plug the

Motorola network (provided by Comcast) modem directly into the computer,

then recycle the power on the modem, the network is found. Great as long as

I don't want to use the wireless or the Vonage phone in my house.



"Curious" wrote in message

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> Why were you unable to recover/reinstall the original XP OS? Didn't the

> system come with a recovery partition and instructions on how to reinstall

> the OS and on how to back up the recovery partition?

>

> "walter deodiaus" wrote in message

> news:uUwGgysrKHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> BTW this all worked under XP before virus hit.

>> Also, the network connector works under Ubanto Linux

>>

 

[Curious]

I suggest you disconnect the Vonage phone and do a complete Reset of your

wireless router and then try again after setting the router up again.

Was the computer directly to the router or was it using wireless also?



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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> No, the recovery process did not work. It reinstalls, but still gives me

> an error with lsass.exe. I called HP, and they said I needed the CDs

> which cost $30 to continue.

> I got curious and decided to install Vista, which I got from a trade

> show.

>

> As it turns out, if I disconnect my Linksys Wireless G router and plug the

> Motorola network (provided by Comcast) modem directly into the computer,

> then recycle the power on the modem, the network is found. Great as long

> as I don't want to use the wireless or the Vonage phone in my house.

>

> "Curious" wrote in message

> news:eKbN%238wrKHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Why were you unable to recover/reinstall the original XP OS? Didn't the

>> system come with a recovery partition and instructions on how to

>> reinstall the OS and on how to back up the recovery partition?

>>

>> "walter deodiaus" wrote in message

>> news:uUwGgysrKHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> BTW this all worked under XP before virus hit.

>>> Also, the network connector works under Ubanto Linux

>>>

>

>

 

[Deodiaus]

My cable modem I got from Comcast is a Motorola SB4200. It has a lan

attachment as well as a USB attachment. I went to the Motorola

website and downloaded the USB drivers, but get an error that the INF

was not correct. BTW, did the layout of the INF change from Vista SP0

to SP2?

Originally the computer was plugged into the Linksys WRTP54G-VR

Wireless Broadband G router.

BTW, someone suggested I get a Ethernet patch cable? Is that wired

differently than a standard LAN cable?

Do they make a LAN cable wired as a Y, so that I can run a line into

the computer and another into the Wireless router. Will that work, or

will it mess something else up?



On Feb 17, 8:32 am, "Curious" wrote:

> I suggest you disconnect the Vonage phone and do a complete Reset of your

> wireless router and then try again after setting the router up again.

> Was the computer directly to the router or was it using wireless also?

 

[TheDuck]

All this BS and the easiest solution is to disable the onboard function and

buy a new lan card. They are cheap.



"Deodiaus" wrote in message

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> My cable modem I got from Comcast is a Motorola SB4200. It has a lan

> attachment as well as a USB attachment. I went to the Motorola

> website and downloaded the USB drivers, but get an error that the INF

> was not correct. BTW, did the layout of the INF change from Vista SP0

> to SP2?

> Originally the computer was plugged into the Linksys WRTP54G-VR

> Wireless Broadband G router.

> BTW, someone suggested I get a Ethernet patch cable? Is that wired

> differently than a standard LAN cable?

> Do they make a LAN cable wired as a Y, so that I can run a line into

> the computer and another into the Wireless router. Will that work, or

> will it mess something else up?

>

> On Feb 17, 8:32 am, "Curious" wrote:

>> I suggest you disconnect the Vonage phone and do a complete Reset of your

>> wireless router and then try again after setting the router up again.

>> Was the computer directly to the router or was it using wireless also?

 

[Curious]

AFAIK you need to be using the LAN Ethernet connection and not the USB

connection.

You can not use a Y splitter on a Ethernet LAN connection.

A LAN cable and a Ethernet patch cable are the same thing.



"Deodiaus" wrote in message

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> My cable modem I got from Comcast is a Motorola SB4200. It has a lan

> attachment as well as a USB attachment. I went to the Motorola

> website and downloaded the USB drivers, but get an error that the INF

> was not correct. BTW, did the layout of the INF change from Vista SP0

> to SP2?

> Originally the computer was plugged into the Linksys WRTP54G-VR

> Wireless Broadband G router.

> BTW, someone suggested I get a Ethernet patch cable? Is that wired

> differently than a standard LAN cable?

> Do they make a LAN cable wired as a Y, so that I can run a line into

> the computer and another into the Wireless router. Will that work, or

> will it mess something else up?

>

> On Feb 17, 8:32 am, "Curious" wrote:

>> I suggest you disconnect the Vonage phone and do a complete Reset of your

>> wireless router and then try again after setting the router up again.

>> Was the computer directly to the router or was it using wireless also?

 

[walter deodiaus]

force install of driver on Vista

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from

http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/support/default.asp?supportSection=DiscontinuedProducts

http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/SB4200/downloads/542708-001-install-utility-b.exe

When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I get

an error saying that is is unsupported

I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is

not supported

The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.

I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32

Is there a way to force the installation of the files?

How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

 

[walter deodiaus]

force install of driver on Vista

In

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms790225.aspx

it says that it needs the NTamd64

I know MS had problems with device drives which were not compatible, so did

MS create any new indications for SP2 to prevent drivers which were not

tested for installation?



"walter deodiaus" wrote in message

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>I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from

> http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/support/default.asp?supportSection=DiscontinuedProducts

> http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/SB4200/downloads/542708-001-install-utility-b.exe

> When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I

> get an error saying that is is unsupported

> I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is

> not supported

> The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.

> I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32

> Is there a way to force the installation of the files?

> How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

>

>

 

[Barb Bowman]

force install of driver on Vista

use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.



On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:



>I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from

>http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/support/default.asp?supportSection=DiscontinuedProducts

>http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/SB4200/downloads/542708-001-install-utility-b.exe

>When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I get

>an error saying that is is unsupported

>I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is

>not supported

>The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.

>I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32

>Is there a way to force the installation of the files?

>How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

>

Barb Bowman

MS-MVP

http://www.digitalmediaphile.com

http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com

 

[walter deodiaus]

force install of driver on Vista

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless router



"Barb Bowman" wrote in message

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> use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

>

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

> wrote:

>

>>I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from

>>http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/support/default.asp?supportSection=DiscontinuedProducts

>>http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/SB4200/downloads/542708-001-install-utility-b.exe

>>When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I

>>get

>>an error saying that is is unsupported

>>I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is

>>not supported

>>The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.

>>I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32

>>Is there a way to force the installation of the files?

>>How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

>>

> Barb Bowman

> MS-MVP

> http://www.digitalmediaphile.com

> http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com