How to save cookies that come from banks and credit card companies

[stevemalee]

I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that say
"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make you
answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has been
deleted.

This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
internet file by default.

Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
automatically goes to the temporary file.

It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always full
-- need to delete it from time to time.

I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
idea doesn't work either.

I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
cannot copy and paste.

This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
their security.

Any new ideas?

Thanks

--
stevemalee

 

[Shenan Stanley]

stevemalee wrote:
> I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks
> that say "you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these
> bank pages make you answer a long list of questions each time you
> log on is their cookie has been deleted.
>
> This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the
> temporary internet file by default.
>
> Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> automatically goes to the temporary file.
>
> It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file
> always full -- need to delete it from time to time.
>
> I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that
> programs "save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And
> the trusted zone idea doesn't work either.
>
> I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a
> separate section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the
> program, and you cannot copy and paste.
>
> This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are
> beefing up their security.
>
> Any new ideas?

Personally - I would prefer it to ask me the questions it needs to every
time. That extra 10 seconds to answer a question that helps protect my
data/money/etc is not ruining my life.

I have several different accounts and the ones with these questions have you
answer one - maybe two at most at each logon (the majority being one.) The
questions are usually easy to answer and although I might think for a split
second, "that's annoying" I get over it by the time I have clicked on a
single transaction or started doing what i intended to do.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[Pete Puma]

Re: How to save cookies that come from banks and credit cardcompanies

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 22:23:01 -0800, stevemalee posted...

> I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that
> say "you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages
> make you answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their
> cookie has been deleted.
>
> This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
> internet file by default.
>
> Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> automatically goes to the temporary file.
>
> It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always
> full -- need to delete it from time to time.
>
> I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
> "save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted
> zone idea doesn't work either.
>
> I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
> section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and
> you cannot copy and paste.
>
> This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing
> up their security.
>
> Any new ideas?
>
> Thanks


Use Firefox and the add-on "CookieCuller". An elegant solution. Once you load the important cookies, you
protect them.
Just make sure no other "cleaning" app is slated to touch your cookies after that.

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

>I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that say
>"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make you
>answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has been
>deleted.
>
>This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
>internet file by default.
>
>Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
>automatically goes to the temporary file.
>
>It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always full
>-- need to delete it from time to time.
>
>I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
>"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
>idea doesn't work either.
>
>I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
>section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
>cannot copy and paste.
>
>This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
>their security.
>
>Any new ideas?
>
>Thanks

Good security policy is to let it ask you every time. Phishers and
hackers are getting pretty good at sniffing about in your cookies to
pull out that info and use it to get into people's accounts. It's not
an inconvenience so much as it is your responsibility to protect
yourself and your accounts. You didn't mention what browser you're
using, hopefully not IE, but Seamonkey and, presumably Firefox, allow
you to set "Accept For Current Session Only" which is great from a
security standpoint. As far as Temporary Internet Files is concerned,
set it to something very low like 8MB and use the "Empty Temporary
Internet Files folder when browser is closed" feature on the Advanced
tab of "Internet Options."

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[stevemalee]

Re: How to save cookies that come from banks and credit card compa

It is not just the credit card and bank web pages.....

Many other web pages allow you to choose foarmatting and click on choices,
etc.
If you have to "set up" the page every time you go to the page, it can take
5-10 minutes for each page, and that eats into your work time.
--
stevemalee


"Thee Chicago Wolf" wrote:

> >I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that say
> >"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make you
> >answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has been
> >deleted.
> >
> >This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
> >internet file by default.
> >
> >Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> >automatically goes to the temporary file.
> >
> >It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always full
> >-- need to delete it from time to time.
> >
> >I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
> >"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
> >idea doesn't work either.
> >
> >I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
> >section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
> >cannot copy and paste.
> >
> >This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
> >their security.
> >
> >Any new ideas?
> >
> >Thanks
>
> Good security policy is to let it ask you every time. Phishers and
> hackers are getting pretty good at sniffing about in your cookies to
> pull out that info and use it to get into people's accounts. It's not
> an inconvenience so much as it is your responsibility to protect
> yourself and your accounts. You didn't mention what browser you're
> using, hopefully not IE, but Seamonkey and, presumably Firefox, allow
> you to set "Accept For Current Session Only" which is great from a
> security standpoint. As far as Temporary Internet Files is concerned,
> set it to something very low like 8MB and use the "Empty Temporary
> Internet Files folder when browser is closed" feature on the Advanced
> tab of "Internet Options."
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf
>

 

[V Green]

Re: How to save cookies that come from banks and credit card compa

See below-

"stevemalee" <stevemalee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FAD9C33B-B5DB-412A-A77D-A2DD0E744FC8@microsoft.com...
> It is not just the credit card and bank web pages.....
>
> Many other web pages allow you to choose foarmatting and click on choices,
> etc.
> If you have to "set up" the page every time you go to the page, it can take
> 5-10 minutes for each page, and that eats into your work time.
> --
> stevemalee
>
>
> "Thee Chicago Wolf" wrote:
>
> > >I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that
say
> > >"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make
you
> > >answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has
been
> > >deleted.
> > >
> > >This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
> > >internet file by default.
> > >
> > >Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> > >automatically goes to the temporary file.
> > >
> > >It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always
full
> > >-- need to delete it from time to time.

Only the CONTENT, which can be done automatically (see below).
Cookies can be left alone.

I have "Empty Browser Cache" enabled on IE and it does
NOT touch cookies, only content. If you total cookies up,
even if you have 100+ of them (I do), the disk space used
only comes to a couple meg. BFD.

Deleting cookies just makes more work for you, as you have already
found out. It's a tempest in a teapot. Just leave them alone.

> > >
> > >I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
> > >"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
> > >idea doesn't work either.
> > >
> > >I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
> > >section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
> > >cannot copy and paste.

Do it manually. You can't trust somebody else's choices of what's
important and what's not anyway.

> > >
> > >This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
> > >their security.
> > >
> > >Any new ideas?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> >
> > Good security policy is to let it ask you every time. Phishers and
> > hackers are getting pretty good at sniffing about in your cookies to
> > pull out that info and use it to get into people's accounts. It's not
> > an inconvenience so much as it is your responsibility to protect
> > yourself and your accounts. You didn't mention what browser you're
> > using, hopefully not IE, but Seamonkey and, presumably Firefox, allow
> > you to set "Accept For Current Session Only" which is great from a
> > security standpoint. As far as Temporary Internet Files is concerned,
> > set it to something very low like 8MB and use the "Empty Temporary
> > Internet Files folder when browser is closed" feature on the Advanced
> > tab of "Internet Options."
> >
> > - Thee Chicago Wolf
> >

 

[stevemalee]

Re: How to save cookies that come from banks and credit card compa

Thanks, V Green, your idea is very helpful, and probably will be the way I
will have to do my computer maintenance.

Thanks for your input.
--
stevemalee


"V Green" wrote:

> See below-
>
> "stevemalee" <stevemalee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:FAD9C33B-B5DB-412A-A77D-A2DD0E744FC8@microsoft.com...
> > It is not just the credit card and bank web pages.....
> >
> > Many other web pages allow you to choose foarmatting and click on choices,
> > etc.
> > If you have to "set up" the page every time you go to the page, it can take
> > 5-10 minutes for each page, and that eats into your work time.
> > --
> > stevemalee
> >
> >
> > "Thee Chicago Wolf" wrote:
> >
> > > >I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that
> say
> > > >"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make
> you
> > > >answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has
> been
> > > >deleted.
> > > >
> > > >This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
> > > >internet file by default.
> > > >
> > > >Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> > > >automatically goes to the temporary file.
> > > >
> > > >It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always
> full
> > > >-- need to delete it from time to time.
>
> Only the CONTENT, which can be done automatically (see below).
> Cookies can be left alone.
>
> I have "Empty Browser Cache" enabled on IE and it does
> NOT touch cookies, only content. If you total cookies up,
> even if you have 100+ of them (I do), the disk space used
> only comes to a couple meg. BFD.
>
> Deleting cookies just makes more work for you, as you have already
> found out. It's a tempest in a teapot. Just leave them alone.
>
> > > >
> > > >I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
> > > >"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
> > > >idea doesn't work either.
> > > >
> > > >I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
> > > >section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
> > > >cannot copy and paste.
>
> Do it manually. You can't trust somebody else's choices of what's
> important and what's not anyway.
>
> > > >
> > > >This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
> > > >their security.
> > > >
> > > >Any new ideas?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > >
> > > Good security policy is to let it ask you every time. Phishers and
> > > hackers are getting pretty good at sniffing about in your cookies to
> > > pull out that info and use it to get into people's accounts. It's not
> > > an inconvenience so much as it is your responsibility to protect
> > > yourself and your accounts. You didn't mention what browser you're
> > > using, hopefully not IE, but Seamonkey and, presumably Firefox, allow
> > > you to set "Accept For Current Session Only" which is great from a
> > > security standpoint. As far as Temporary Internet Files is concerned,
> > > set it to something very low like 8MB and use the "Empty Temporary
> > > Internet Files folder when browser is closed" feature on the Advanced
> > > tab of "Internet Options."
> > >
> > > - Thee Chicago Wolf
> > >
>
>
>

 

[stevemalee]

Re: How to save cookies that come from banks and credit card compa

Secondly ----------

It turns out that using Firefox solves the problem !!

I am trying it now and find that it does save the cookies you want, and you
are able to remove the other cookies without saving the ones you want
manually.

Hooray --

--
stevemalee


"V Green" wrote:

> See below-
>
> "stevemalee" <stevemalee@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:FAD9C33B-B5DB-412A-A77D-A2DD0E744FC8@microsoft.com...
> > It is not just the credit card and bank web pages.....
> >
> > Many other web pages allow you to choose foarmatting and click on choices,
> > etc.
> > If you have to "set up" the page every time you go to the page, it can take
> > 5-10 minutes for each page, and that eats into your work time.
> > --
> > stevemalee
> >
> >
> > "Thee Chicago Wolf" wrote:
> >
> > > >I have read the threads here regarding problems logging on to banks that
> say
> > > >"you must have cookies enabled" and the threads re: these bank pages make
> you
> > > >answer a long list of questions each time you log on is their cookie has
> been
> > > >deleted.
> > > >
> > > >This problem is a problem of the "secure" cookies going to the temporary
> > > >internet file by default.
> > > >
> > > >Setting the "cookie over ride" does not work because the cookie
> > > >automatically goes to the temporary file.
> > > >
> > > >It is simply not reasonable to leave the temporary internet file always
> full
> > > >-- need to delete it from time to time.
>
> Only the CONTENT, which can be done automatically (see below).
> Cookies can be left alone.
>
> I have "Empty Browser Cache" enabled on IE and it does
> NOT touch cookies, only content. If you total cookies up,
> even if you have 100+ of them (I do), the disk space used
> only comes to a couple meg. BFD.
>
> Deleting cookies just makes more work for you, as you have already
> found out. It's a tempest in a teapot. Just leave them alone.
>
> > > >
> > > >I also use CCleaner and even though the cookies are put in that programs
> > > >"save" section, it still goes to the temporary file. And the trusted zone
> > > >idea doesn't work either.
> > > >
> > > >I did try a program you recommended that puts the cookies in a separate
> > > >section, but this does not bring in all the cookies to the program, and you
> > > >cannot copy and paste.
>
> Do it manually. You can't trust somebody else's choices of what's
> important and what's not anyway.
>
> > > >
> > > >This problem is getting worse and worse since so many banks are beefing up
> > > >their security.
> > > >
> > > >Any new ideas?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > >
> > > Good security policy is to let it ask you every time. Phishers and
> > > hackers are getting pretty good at sniffing about in your cookies to
> > > pull out that info and use it to get into people's accounts. It's not
> > > an inconvenience so much as it is your responsibility to protect
> > > yourself and your accounts. You didn't mention what browser you're
> > > using, hopefully not IE, but Seamonkey and, presumably Firefox, allow
> > > you to set "Accept For Current Session Only" which is great from a
> > > security standpoint. As far as Temporary Internet Files is concerned,
> > > set it to something very low like 8MB and use the "Empty Temporary
> > > Internet Files folder when browser is closed" feature on the Advanced
> > > tab of "Internet Options."
> > >
> > > - Thee Chicago Wolf
> > >
>
>
>