On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:07:55 +0100, "dennis@home"
<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:
>
>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>> You'll be a welcome addition to the fanboy club and be welcomed with
>> open arms no doubt since you seems to enjoy trying to paint black as
>> white.
>>
>> The Microsoft page in question is poorly written and gives at best
>> misleading advice that does NOTHING to override UAC nag screens which
>> it suggests by the language used it WILL do. I'm sorry if you're too
>> dense to not get it. Better luck next time.
>>
>
>Well you may claim that, but I first read that page a few days ago when it
>was mentioned as being a solution to the UAC problem.
>I also pointed out that it was not a solution to getting rid of the UAC
>prompt as it is plain to anyone that reads it.
Maybe you should consider a career in politics. It seems you have a
gift for deliberately misstating the obvious. It seems the pastime of
too many posters in this newsgroup is playing semantic word games or
more commonly called starting pissing contests in some vain effort to
try to save face.
One more time, see if it sinks in:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true
Scroll down to where it says:
Scenario 2: Mark an application to always run elevated.
I'm not arguing what it says isn't what happens, rather that what is
says is so poorly written it implies something totally different. I
note this is fairly common on Microsoft pages, so many times users get
lead down some garden path only to get unexpected results. This is one
such example.
Note the subhead does not say how to ensure some UAC nag screen pops
up which seems to be what you would like it to mean or you are just
making excuses for it to mean that.
You want me to diagram the sentence for you?
What is the subject? An application.
What is the verb? Run, ie always run elevated.
What is anticipated action? To mark. ie to cause an application to
always run as elevated by changing some
setting in Vista to make it do so.
Now any reasonable non fanboy would conclude the purpose of this
section of the Microsoft web page under discussion was intended to
show the user how to change Vista to mark an application to always run
elevated so when you click on the application or it's shortcut it runs
without nagging you any more. That would be a useful feature since the
jury is in on UAC. Many users think it sucks big time.
The problem which I clearly explained but apparently went over your
head was if you follow the instructions hoping to effect some change
in behavior you change nothing expect to substitute one nag screen for
another. Duh!
THAT is what I'm talking about.
My point. The sub heading is very misleading.
>All it shows so far is that you didn't read it and the MVP either didn't
>understand the posters question or didn't read it either.
The one that doesn't read for comprehension is YOU. So I am forced to
conclude you are nothing but another pompous windbag faking he's
another expert. Well isn't that precious. Just what this newsgroup
needs, another self-anointed expert that loves to shoot his mouth off
and keeps his eyes shut tight so he can pretend his narrow view is
right when facts staring him in the face prove otherwise.
To further illustrate how dumb Microsoft is later on the same page it
suggests a way to disable prompting shown below:
1. Click Start, click Accessories, click Run, type secpol.msc in the
Open text box, and then click OK.
2. From the Local Security Settings console tree, click Local
Policies, and then Security Options.
3. Scroll down to and double-click User Account Control: Behavior of
the elevation prompt for administrators or User Account Control:
Behavior of the elevation prompt for standard users.
4. From the drop-down menu, select one of the following settings:
• No prompt
• Prompt for credentials (this setting requires user name and password
input before an application or task will run as elevated, and is the
default for standard users)
• Prompt for consent (this is the default setting for administrators
only)
5. Click OK.
6. Close the Local Security Settings window.
Note the term Behavior of the elevation prompt for standard users.
Again the Microsoft instructions suggest if you do blah, blah, blah,
then you can get to a "no prompt" state. Notice this is suppose to be
an option to suppress prompting. I set it that way and surprise, it
has no effect at all, UAC still shows the damn nag screen.
So I played around with some other settings in the Local Security
Setting window and while now I no longer get a UAC nag screen for this
one problem application Vista being as dumb as it is now says UAC is
off when it fact it is turned on.
I confirmed it is on by going to Control Panel, User Accounts and see
the check mark "use UAC to protect your computer" is indeed checked,
yet Vista keeps popping up warning messages telling me it is disabled
and suggesting I turn it on.
You got to hand it to the boys of Redmond, they sure know how to mess
things up and tell you exact opposites at the same time. I guess
that's just another Vista "feature". You UAC in off. No wait, it is
on, well maybe not, could be off. Flip a coin.
The conclusion is Vista in it's present state is riddled with
programming errors. That's just sloppy programming. Period. Whoever
writes so-called Microsoft "help" web pages obviously doesn't follow
what is wrote to see if it actually does what is claimed.