Here's an interesting problem I've had with an early SATA I only/ 2 ide port
motherboards. Initially, I went with onboard ide only. XP installed fine.
SATA disabled in the bios.
Curious, I wanted to see if a bootable SATA drive would work on the
motherboard, booting XP. During the learning experience, found that only 2
ports at anytime could be used with a device or devices attached to those
ports. 2 ide, or SATA and one ide port. Additionally, if enabled SATA and
maintained the primary ide port with a hard drive on that ide port, the bios
would list an additional ide controller on irq 10. In that case, I had to
disable the secondary port. For a SATA boot drive, I had to use the remap
to ide primary option in the bios, leave the ide primary port enabled with
no devices attached to it. In that case, no additional ide port showed in
the bios on irq 10.
In the learning experience, I imaged the ide bootable hard drive to a
firewire drive. Removed the ide hard drive and setup SATA to remap to the
primary ide port as previously explained, and attached a new SATA II
jumpered as SATA I hard drive. Restored said image to the SATA hard drive
from the firewire drive. XP started, but, never got to the log-on screen.
Even giving it 30 minutes for anything it may be doing not observable to the
user. No errors messages, nothing.
After much consternation, removed the SATA drive, and reattached the ide
drive. Setup the bios with SATA disabled again. Worked fine. Went back to
bios setup. Simply enabled the SATA port, but did not attach any SATA
drives. Booted to XP, found new hardware, did its thing successfully.
Imaged this installation to the firewire hard drive. Setup the SATA and
bios as previously mentioned. Removed the ide hard drive. Restored the
image to the SATA drive. XP booted successfully. Worked fine since.
I probably could have used the repair option in the first instance I tried,
but, I found something new in my stubborness.
--
Dave
"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BF445799-9DE6-473C-B645-EB76A6616CC0@microsoft.com...
> Also here's a thought. if the Sata port while not using the AHCI mode is
> emulating the IDE and the current master HD is IDE, could this be causing
> a
> conflict?
>
> and do you have the SATA AHCI/Raid mode turned on in your bios?
>
> "Kardon Coupé" wrote:
>
>> Don't think it is an issue with the ports (but I could be wrong), as I
>> have
>> it in port1, it registers in the BIOS, but XP doesn't boot from it
>> (whilst
>> the IDE is in), boots XP with it turned off in the BIOS, and then hot
>> plugged during XP running, it knows it there.......so, tomorrow (as I've
>> just got in from work and I'm knackered) I'll be trying to boot just off
>> the
>> SATA, and disconnecting the IDE, just to see....
>>
>> I'll report back and let ya know tomorrow on the outcome...
>>
>> There is one thing I have just thought, and I'll do some research in the
>> meantime...... SATA II on a SATA port, shouldn't be an issue?
>>
>> "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:81D3B8EA-4BBE-473E-BC40-078F24E1B872@microsoft.com...
>> > Possibly a conflict with having the IDE and the sata set as master?
>> > in the sata it shouldn't matter, but there is always a possibly with
>> > computers, I would try changing jumpers and see if it makes a
>> > difference.
>> > if the sata drivers are installed properly, it should work.
>> > I'm going to be dealing with this same issue in the near future, as I'm
>> > building a new pc and it has ide now as master and I will be adding
>> > sata
>> > drives to it, I don't think I'll be making any of the sata as masters,
>> > till I
>> > get more familiar with the issues.
>> >
>> > is there a possiblity you have the sata drive plugged into the wrong
>> > port,
>> > with my motherboard there are two different types Gigabyte and (dang I
>> > can't
>> > remember what the name is) but it requires two different drivers and
>> > one
>> > is
>> > not compatable with W2k Pro. and causes a crash when the drivers are
>> > loaded
>> >
>> > "Kardon Coupé" wrote:
>> >
>> >> First Implied statment, correct, Second Implied Statment, also
>> >> correct...
>> >>
>> >> I've cloned my boot hdd to the sata, and I did switch the bios, but
>> >> alas
>> >> it
>> >> won't boot... I mean, litterally, I can't get anything to boot.... the
>> >> only
>> >> way I can get my machine to boot is by disabling the sata in the
>> >> bios.....
>> >>
>> >> So I'm thinking, before I attempt anything, even a repair dvd install,
>> >> I
>> >> think I'm going to need to update my BIOS to the latest version (even
>> >> though
>> >> I thought it was).....
>> >>
>> >> One question I have, if I have the IDE connected at the same time,
>> >> does
>> >> it
>> >> need to be blanked? i.e. I've chucked a XP Installed HDD in my machine
>> >> b4
>> >> to
>> >> remove files from it, when a persons comp died, and I didn't have a
>> >> problem
>> >> with 2 XP drives in, as it knew which one to boot from....But, the
>> >> machine
>> >> wasn't even booting when I had the Sata in (on channel 1) and it was
>> >> just
>> >> a
>> >> formated blank drive......
>> >>
>> >> Very weird...
>> >>
>> >> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:uwAtqd2RIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Forgive me while I type and think aloud. You have onboard SATA
>> >> > (implied).
>> >> > You current XP is installed on onboard ide hard drive (terribly
>> >> > implied).
>> >> >
>> >> > Why can't you simply enable the SATA controller in the bios, boot to
>> >> > XP,
>> >> > install the driver if needed. Attach the SATA hard drive. Ghost
>> >> > from
>> >> > the
>> >> > ide to SATA drive from boot media, remove the ide drive and instruct
>> >> > the
>> >> > bios to boot from CD, then do a repair install, or course change to
>> >> > bios
>> >> > to boot from SATA after all is complete?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Dave
>> >> > "Kardon Coupé" <prefer.to@readon.newsgroups> wrote in message
>> >> > news:ubwle00RIHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> I'd install the drivers onto the machine, as I can plug the SATA in
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the machine now to regonise it, and then clone my IDE into the
>> >> >> SATA.....I
>> >> >> think, like I said, I've never done this before....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:A2BE17AA-73D8-449C-B685-52E15C4E4F70@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>> The only way to get the sata drivers installed is with an install
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>> windows.
>> >> >>> or a repair install.
>> >> >>> how can you clone the drive to the sata if the sata is not
>> >> >>> physically
>> >> >>> recognized to be able to write to it? the drivers have to be
>> >> >>> installed
>> >> >>> first.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Kardon Coupé" wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Dear All,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I have not long done a re-install, so really don't want to be
>> >> >>>> doing
>> >> >>>> another
>> >> >>>> one so soon, but I've just been given a SATA drive to replace my
>> >> >>>> IDE C
>> >> >>>> Drive for Xmas....
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I've done a bit of research and it appears it can be done the
>> >> >>>> easy
>> >> >>>> way,
>> >> >>>> by
>> >> >>>> Ghosting, and redumping to new drive, and using SysPrep to tell
>> >> >>>> it
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> rebuild the drivers, etc, and then it will use the SATA,
>> >> >>>> otherwise
>> >> >>>> I'm
>> >> >>>> likely to get numerous errors, BSOD's, etc...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> But the link I've stumbled across (amongst others) don't really
>> >> >>>> give
>> >> >>>> me
>> >> >>>> any
>> >> >>>> actual indication of using this tool after I've Ghosted....
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457080.aspx
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> am I suppose to clone the drive, swap the drives and use SysPrep,
>> >> >>>> or
>> >> >>>> use
>> >> >>>> SysPrep, clone the drive, and reboot from the new drive?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I'm confused, has anybody successfully done the IDE to SATA swap
>> >> >>>> without
>> >> >>>> needing a re-install, and if you have, can you please tell me the
>> >> >>>> steps
>> >> >>>> you
>> >> >>>> took to achieve my requirements..
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Regards
>> >> >>>> Paul.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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