going nuts with roms

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OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
gizmoandback wrote:
> OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
from the Windows CD.

Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?

Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)

In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive entry.
If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?

It is bound to be some other program you've installed.

Paul
 
"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B9A8FD82-07FA-4CFD-BB16-9E2BFD3604E8@microsoft.com...
> OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try another CD/DVD drive.
 
I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom, or a
game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a dvd burner(
external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to restore the
system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc i
mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got any ideas?

"Paul" wrote:

> gizmoandback wrote:
> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
> from the Windows CD.
>
> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
>
> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
>
> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive entry.
> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
>
> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
 
The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.


"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
>I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom, or a
> game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a dvd
> burner(
> external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to restore the
> system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc i
> mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got any
> ideas?
>
> "Paul" wrote:
>
>> gizmoandback wrote:
>> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now
>> > it
>> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
>> from the Windows CD.
>>
>> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
>>
>> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
>>
>> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive entry.
>> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
>> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
>> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
>>
>> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
 
Ok went to the device manager and looked my drivers are the same as yours
except that i have one extra imapi.sys on both drives. What is that for?

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
> of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
> your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.
>
>
> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
> >I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom, or a
> > game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a dvd
> > burner(
> > external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to restore the
> > system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc i
> > mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got any
> > ideas?
> >
> > "Paul" wrote:
> >
> >> gizmoandback wrote:
> >> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now
> >> > it
> >> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
> >> from the Windows CD.
> >>
> >> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
> >>
> >> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
> >>
> >> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive entry.
> >> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
> >> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
> >> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
> >>
> >> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
 
Mhm, well. You must be a talented hacker. You write "..are the
same as yours". You're the first person who has managed to
hack into my system. How did you do it?

I still think that your drive is marginal. Doing the tests I suggested
would confirm it.


"gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2F4A4291-5A08-43F4-9718-5664541B0D1F@microsoft.com...
> Ok went to the device manager and looked my drivers are the same as yours
> except that i have one extra imapi.sys on both drives. What is that for?
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
>> of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
>> your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.
>>
>>
>> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
>> >I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom, or
>> >a
>> > game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a dvd
>> > burner(
>> > external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to restore
>> > the
>> > system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc i
>> > mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got any
>> > ideas?
>> >
>> > "Paul" wrote:
>> >
>> >> gizmoandback wrote:
>> >> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds
>> >> > now
>> >> > it
>> >> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
>> >> from the Windows CD.
>> >>
>> >> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
>> >>
>> >> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive
>> >> entry.
>> >> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
>> >> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
>> >> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
>> >>
>> >> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
 
On Oct 18, 11:54 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote:
> Mhm, well. You must be a talented hacker. You write "..are the
> same as yours". You're the first person who has managed to
> hack into my system. How did you do it?
>
> I still think that your drive is marginal. Doing the tests I suggested
> would confirm it.
>
> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2F4A4291-5A08-43F4-9718-5664541B0D1F@microsoft.com...
>
>
>
> > Ok went to the device manager and looked my drivers are the same as yours
> > except that i have one extra imapi.sys on both drives. What is that for?
>
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> >> The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
> >> of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
> >> your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.
>
> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
> >> >I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom, or
> >> >a
> >> > game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a dvd
> >> > burner(
> >> > external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to restore
> >> > the
> >> > system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc i
> >> > mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got any
> >> > ideas?
>
> >> > "Paul" wrote:
>
> >> >> gizmoandback wrote:
> >> >> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds
> >> >> > now
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >> >> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to install
> >> >> from the Windows CD.
>
> >> >> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
>
> >> >> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
>
> >> >> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive
> >> >> entry.
> >> >> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
> >> >> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
> >> >> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
>
> >> >> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
>
> >> >> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I believe he was referring to his drivers being the same as the ones
"Paul" mentioned...
 
"josh" <JoshRhoden@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192730995.677777.160970@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 18, 11:54 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote:
>> Mhm, well. You must be a talented hacker. You write "..are the
>> same as yours". You're the first person who has managed to
>> hack into my system. How did you do it?
>>
>> I still think that your drive is marginal. Doing the tests I suggested
>> would confirm it.
>>
>> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2F4A4291-5A08-43F4-9718-5664541B0D1F@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Ok went to the device manager and looked my drivers are the same as
>> > yours
>> > except that i have one extra imapi.sys on both drives. What is that
>> > for?
>>
>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>> >> The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
>> >> of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
>> >> your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.
>>
>> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >>news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom,
>> >> >or
>> >> >a
>> >> > game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a
>> >> > dvd
>> >> > burner(
>> >> > external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to
>> >> > restore
>> >> > the
>> >> > system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc
>> >> > i
>> >> > mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got
>> >> > any
>> >> > ideas?
>>
>> >> > "Paul" wrote:
>>
>> >> >> gizmoandback wrote:
>> >> >> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize
>> >> >> > dvds
>> >> >> > now
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >> >> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to
>> >> >> install
>> >> >> from the Windows CD.
>>
>> >> >> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
>>
>> >> >> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
>>
>> >> >> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive
>> >> >> entry.
>> >> >> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
>> >> >> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
>> >> >> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
>>
>> >> >> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
>>
>> >> >> Paul- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I believe he was referring to his drivers being the same as the ones
> "Paul" mentioned...

I see. He seems to be a little confused about the post he's replying to.
 
All right everybody i understand that things are a little scetchy but the
problem is i had a bad crash and had to recover my entire system I had to
restore using my restore disc when i finished restoreing i went in and
repaired windows with my windows disc everything was working fine until my
son downloaded wmp11 on to the computer thats when everything with my
internal and external drives happened. I rolled back to wmp10 and they
started working agian but over a period of about 2 weeks they have stopped
reading dvds and cdrs of any type they will read the windows xp disc and the
restore disc and some types of cd-rom game discs (civ 3)-(age of empires) but
nothing else. Now you know the root cause i hope you can direct me were i
need to go or do to get the problem fixed.

"gizmoandback" wrote:

> OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
easy i pay attention in class. No i was refering to pauls answer that he had
given and mistakenly added my answer to your reply. I have a one thing to ask
you that is very important. How can i do a clean install when the install
program will not let me delete the old os and install a new one.

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "josh" <JoshRhoden@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1192730995.677777.160970@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 18, 11:54 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote:
> >> Mhm, well. You must be a talented hacker. You write "..are the
> >> same as yours". You're the first person who has managed to
> >> hack into my system. How did you do it?
> >>
> >> I still think that your drive is marginal. Doing the tests I suggested
> >> would confirm it.
> >>
> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:2F4A4291-5A08-43F4-9718-5664541B0D1F@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ok went to the device manager and looked my drivers are the same as
> >> > yours
> >> > except that i have one extra imapi.sys on both drives. What is that
> >> > for?
> >>
> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The fastest way of diagnosing such problems is still by process
> >> >> of elimination: Either try a different CD/DVD drive or else test
> >> >> your own CD/DVD drive in a different computer.
> >>
> >> >> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandb...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >>news:BAA7ECFC-63CE-4B0C-9FA4-86315E8CD6FC@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I did install fron the drive, it will only read a microsoft cd-rom,
> >> >> >or
> >> >> >a
> >> >> > game cd-rom, nothing else and its a combo drive( internal ) and a
> >> >> > dvd
> >> >> > burner(
> >> >> > external ) they worked before i had a system crash and had to
> >> >> > restore
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > system then they went from working to only reading the types of disc
> >> >> > i
> >> >> > mentioned before. If the disc is a cdr or dvd they won't read. got
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > ideas?
> >>
> >> >> > "Paul" wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> gizmoandback wrote:
> >> >> >> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize
> >> >> >> > dvds
> >> >> >> > now
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> >> >> We know the drive works, because you used your CDROM drive to
> >> >> >> install
> >> >> >> from the Windows CD.
> >>
> >> >> >> Have you installed CD burner software or other related products ?
> >>
> >> >> >> Sometimes a third party application will gum up the works. (InCD?)
> >>
> >> >> >> In Device Manager, my optical drive is under the DVD/CDROM drive
> >> >> >> entry.
> >> >> >> If I click on the drive name, and check the driver details, the
> >> >> >> drivers used are "cdrom.sys", "redbook.sys", and "storprop.dll".
> >> >> >> My drive is a simple CDROM. What drivers are shown for yours ?
> >>
> >> >> >> It is bound to be some other program you've installed.
> >>
> >> >> >> Paul- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > I believe he was referring to his drivers being the same as the ones
> > "Paul" mentioned...
>
> I see. He seems to be a little confused about the post he's replying to.
>
>
>
 
gizmoandback wrote:
> All right everybody i understand that things are a little scetchy but the
> problem is i had a bad crash and had to recover my entire system I had to
> restore using my restore disc when i finished restoreing i went in and
> repaired windows with my windows disc everything was working fine until my
> son downloaded wmp11 on to the computer thats when everything with my
> internal and external drives happened. I rolled back to wmp10 and they
> started working agian but over a period of about 2 weeks they have stopped
> reading dvds and cdrs of any type they will read the windows xp disc and the
> restore disc and some types of cd-rom game discs (civ 3)-(age of empires) but
> nothing else. Now you know the root cause i hope you can direct me were i
> need to go or do to get the problem fixed.
>
> "gizmoandback" wrote:
>
>> OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
>> won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

While we compose our thoughts, there is a thread here with some suggestions.

http://www.siliconguide.com/qa/forum/messages/88-1.shtml

For clearing upper and lower filter entries, there is this tool.
It is based on CDgone.reg .

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts/xp_cd_dvd_fix.vbs

This is the content of CDgone, and the minus signs in this, presumably means
to remove registry entries.

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
"UpperFilters"=-
"LowerFilters"=-

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdr4_2K]

-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdralw2k]

The other thing mentioned in that thread, is a package from Nero.

ftp://ftp9.nero.com/attach/cleanpack.zip

Driver-CleanTool.exe and RegistryChecker.exe are the contents.
Instructions are here, and elsewhere. I tried both tools - the
first tool presented a dialog (but it found no objectionable
drivers on this machine, because I have no burners on this machine).
The second tool didn't even have the decency to display anything
on the screen, so I don't know what it did.

https://www.pctoday.com/techsupport/detail.aspx?guid=&ErrorID=38535

Have fun,
Paul
 
Thanks Paul you have been a great help.

"Paul" wrote:

> gizmoandback wrote:
> > All right everybody i understand that things are a little scetchy but the
> > problem is i had a bad crash and had to recover my entire system I had to
> > restore using my restore disc when i finished restoreing i went in and
> > repaired windows with my windows disc everything was working fine until my
> > son downloaded wmp11 on to the computer thats when everything with my
> > internal and external drives happened. I rolled back to wmp10 and they
> > started working agian but over a period of about 2 weeks they have stopped
> > reading dvds and cdrs of any type they will read the windows xp disc and the
> > restore disc and some types of cd-rom game discs (civ 3)-(age of empires) but
> > nothing else. Now you know the root cause i hope you can direct me were i
> > need to go or do to get the problem fixed.
> >
> > "gizmoandback" wrote:
> >
> >> OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> >> won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> While we compose our thoughts, there is a thread here with some suggestions.
>
> http://www.siliconguide.com/qa/forum/messages/88-1.shtml
>
> For clearing upper and lower filter entries, there is this tool.
> It is based on CDgone.reg .
>
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts/xp_cd_dvd_fix.vbs
>
> This is the content of CDgone, and the minus signs in this, presumably means
> to remove registry entries.
>
> REGEDIT4
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
> "UpperFilters"=-
> "LowerFilters"=-
>
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdr4_2K]
>
> -HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdralw2k]
>
> The other thing mentioned in that thread, is a package from Nero.
>
> ftp://ftp9.nero.com/attach/cleanpack.zip
>
> Driver-CleanTool.exe and RegistryChecker.exe are the contents.
> Instructions are here, and elsewhere. I tried both tools - the
> first tool presented a dialog (but it found no objectionable
> drivers on this machine, because I have no burners on this machine).
> The second tool didn't even have the decency to display anything
> on the screen, so I don't know what it did.
>
> https://www.pctoday.com/techsupport/detail.aspx?guid=&ErrorID=38535
>
> Have fun,
> Paul
>
 
Thanks for the help

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "gizmoandback" <gizmoandback@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B9A8FD82-07FA-4CFD-BB16-9E2BFD3604E8@microsoft.com...
> > OK with all the things to go wrong i wasn't able to recoganize dvds now it
> > won't even read a cd rom either HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Try another CD/DVD drive.
>
>
>
 
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