get updates without the new download

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Mark G.

is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am
not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having
things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.
Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
 
"Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote:

>is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
>more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am
>not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having
>things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.
>Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.

Disable auto updates and do it using IE (Tools...)
 
There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since
it already resides on the system.
Define " old fashioned way ", please.

Is it this ? :
Microsoft Download Center
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en

Or this ? :
How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Mark G. wrote:

> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I am
> not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like having
> things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully control it.
> Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
>
>
 
I mean, now when I go to get my updates, it says this:

Get the latest Windows Update software.


We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the
software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now.

Seems this is a new "service" they are trying to get you involved in. Says
this:

Now you can get updates for Windows, Office and other Microsoft applications
all in one place. Microsoft Update is a new service that brings you all the
features and benefits of Windows Update plus downloads for other Microsoft
applications including Office.


I go about this by clicking my start button and windows update. I just want
it to tell me what is available so I can choose what to download and install
by going through the custom option.

Does that make it more clear? If not, then please let me know. Thanks much.
"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
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> There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it
> already resides on the system.
> Define " old fashioned way ", please.
>
> Is it this ? :
> Microsoft Download Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en
>
> Or this ? :
> How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166
>
> Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
> Mark G. wrote:
>
>> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
>> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I
>> am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like
>> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully
>> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
 
It either takes me here:

http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/muoptdefault.aspx?ln=en-us

Or here:

http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en


"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it
> already resides on the system.
> Define " old fashioned way ", please.
>
> Is it this ? :
> Microsoft Download Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en
>
> Or this ? :
> How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166
>
> Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
> Mark G. wrote:
>
>> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
>> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I
>> am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like
>> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully
>> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
 
You do need to install the new software that's *forced* upon you before you
can use WU in any manner (it's just a new version of the WU engine), but
that is separate from Microsoft Updates, which is entirely optional. At
least, that was the case only a couple of weeks ago.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I mean, now when I go to get my updates, it says this:
>
> Get the latest Windows Update software.
>
>
> We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the
> software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now.
>
> Seems this is a new "service" they are trying to get you involved in. Says
> this:
>
> Now you can get updates for Windows, Office and other Microsoft
> applications all in one place. Microsoft Update is a new service that
> brings you all the features and benefits of Windows Update plus downloads
> for other Microsoft applications including Office.
>
>
> I go about this by clicking my start button and windows update. I just
> want it to tell me what is available so I can choose what to download and
> install by going through the custom option.
>
> Does that make it more clear? If not, then please let me know. Thanks
> much.
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
> news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since
>> it already resides on the system.
>> Define " old fashioned way ", please.
>>
>> Is it this ? :
>> Microsoft Download Center
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en
>>
>> Or this ? :
>> How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166
>>
>> Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>
>>
>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
>> ===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ===============
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark G. wrote:
>>
>>> is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
>>> more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean,
>>> I am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like
>>> having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully
>>> control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
>
>
 
No, it take you to one or the other. Recommend that you stick with
Windows Update. One must opt into Microsoft Update in order to reach
that site.
From the looks of the first URL, that's the opt in link to MU via the
WU site.
As Gary Terhune has already explained, the Windows Update site now
requires an updated version of the Windows Update Agent due to an issue
with the previous scan detection that was causing systems to lock up.

You can install both of the updates needed to resolve that issue from
these links, if you so choose:

Windows Update Agent 3.0 (x86) [XP, WS2003, Win2K]
http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe

KB927891
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CD-A0B9-497E-8A89-404327772E5A&displaylang=en

SAVE the updates, do not run them
When the downloads complete close the browser and any other open programs
Now run WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe [If a message appears that WUA is
already installed, then go here:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=1071
Scroll down to the May 4th posting to see how to install it with /wuforce]

Then run WindowsXP-KB927891-v3-x86-ENU.exe
Restart the system


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


Mark G. wrote:

> It either takes me here:
>
> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/muoptdefault.aspx?ln=en-us
>
> Or here:
>
> http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=en
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message
> news:ep1$HpBvHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>There's no need to install ' more MS software ' to obtain updates since it
>>already resides on the system.
>>Define " old fashioned way ", please.
>>
>>Is it this ? :
>>Microsoft Download Center
>>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Search.aspx?displaylang=en
>>
>>Or this ? :
>>How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166
>>
>>Or do they arrive by snail mail ? <w>
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============
>>
>>
>>
>>Mark G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>is there a way to get win xp updates the old fashion way without putting
>>>more MS software on my machine? If not, is there a work around. I mean, I
>>>am not a MS hater, I appreciate what they offer, I just do not like
>>>having things like that on my machine especially if I can not fully
>>>control it. Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
>
>
>
 
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