FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH with P5Kmotherboard.

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Hello!
FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE
with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the
voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep?
Best regards,
Dima
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

On Dec 12, 7:58 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:39:42 -0800 (PST), D <t...@bk.ru>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE
> >with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the
> >voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep?
> >Best regards,
> >Dima

>
> It might help if you elaborated on what "peep" means.
>
> Generally, noise would come from either a failing fan or the
> magnetics (transformer or inductors). While it seems more
> likely a different load from the hardware change is putting
> the magnetics, one of them at a resonant frequency, a change
> in load on the 12V rail could also cause a change in fan RPM
> which reveals a bearing problem.
>
> I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan
> with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be
> the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few
> minutes then open it and lube the fan.
>
> If it is something magnetic the resolution is a bit more
> complicated, either replacing the noisey part, removing it
> and soaking it in lacquer/similar, or trying to apply a
> rubber cement or epoxy like coating while the part is still
> soldered to the PCB.
>
> Finding the noisey part could prove difficult, or at least
> will require some caution. You can stop the fan by simply
> sticking a plastic drinking straw into the fan intake area
> at the center to stop the fan from rotating, but to find
> other parts it woud require opening the PSU and probing
> around while it's powered which is something anyone who
> would need to be told to do so, probably shouldn't be doing
> for safety reasons. It can be done safely, but poking
> around in live mains powered power supplies is beyond what
> the average end user should be doing.
>
> If the PSU were still under warranty you might see of you
> can RMA replace it.

Thanks kony for your suggestions!
The noise comes from the magnetics (transformer or inductors). It
continues even after shutting down Windows sometimes.
Best regards,
Dima
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

On Dec 12, 8:10 pm, "peter" <pe...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem
> somwhere.
> Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of
> the new mobo???
> peter
> peter"D" <t...@bk.ru> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> > Hello!
> > FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE
> > with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the
> > voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep?
> > Best regards,
> > Dima- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks peter for replying!
I meant a whining or creaking by the peeping.
Why does www.silentpcreview.com write "most powerful Intel 670
(P4-3.8) processor rig with nVidia 6800GT video card drew ~214W DC
from the power supply under full load" on http://www.silentpcreview.com/article292-page4.html
for example?
Best regards,
Dima
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

On Dec 12, 7:58 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:39:42 -0800 (PST), D <t...@bk.ru>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello!
> >FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH DELUXE
> >with Asus P5K motherboard. Asus probe 2 and Everest show, that the
> >voltages are fine all the time. How to prevent the peep?
> >Best regards,
> >Dima

>
> It might help if you elaborated on what "peep" means.
>
> Generally, noise would come from either a failing fan or the
> magnetics (transformer or inductors). While it seems more
> likely a different load from the hardware change is putting
> the magnetics, one of them at a resonant frequency, a change
> in load on the 12V rail could also cause a change in fan RPM
> which reveals a bearing problem.
>
> I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan
> with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be
> the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few
> minutes then open it and lube the fan.
>
> If it is something magnetic the resolution is a bit more
> complicated, either replacing the noisey part, removing it
> and soaking it in lacquer/similar, or trying to apply a
> rubber cement or epoxy like coating while the part is still
> soldered to the PCB.
>
> Finding the noisey part could prove difficult, or at least
> will require some caution. You can stop the fan by simply
> sticking a plastic drinking straw into the fan intake area
> at the center to stop the fan from rotating, but to find
> other parts it woud require opening the PSU and probing
> around while it's powered which is something anyone who
> would need to be told to do so, probably shouldn't be doing
> for safety reasons. It can be done safely, but poking
> around in live mains powered power supplies is beyond what
> the average end user should be doing.
>
> If the PSU were still under warranty you might see of you
> can RMA replace it.

My PSU uses Protechnic, not Yate Loon fan.
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

peter wrote:

> Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem
> somwhere.
> Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of
> the new mobo???


Peep, not beep. The main transformer or an output choke may peep if
the load is just right, usually on the high side.
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

On Dec 13, 12:12 pm, do_not_spam...@my-deja.com wrote:
> peter wrote:
> > Never heard of a PSU beeping.......usually a mobo beeps to signafy a problem
> > somwhere.
> > Are you sure the 12v lines on that PSU can handle the power requirements of
> > the new mobo???

>
> Peep, not beep. The main transformer or an output choke may peep if
> the load is just right, usually on the high side.

Thanks do_not_spam...@my-deja.com for replying!
I replaced FSP350-60GLN PSU with Zalman ZM460B-ASP. The Zalman is much
quieter!
Regards,
Dima
 
Re: FSP350-60GLN PSU started peeping after replacing Asus P5W DH withP5K motherboard.

On Dec 14, 4:46 am, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:27:42 -0800 (PST), D <t...@bk.ru>
> wrote:
>
> >> I know that at least some of that model used a Yate Loon fan
> >> with a sleeve bearing that had short life, if it seems to be
> >> the fan you might leave it unplugged from AC for a few
> >> minutes then open it and lube the fan.

> >My PSU uses Protechnic, not Yate Loon fan.

>
> Ok, but did you determine where the noise is coming from? I
> don't know if the Protechnic fan is sleeve bearing or not,
> but it is still a possible suspect.

Yes, I determined the peeping is coming from the electric circuit, not
from the fan.
The fan makes a different noise from its vibration.
I replaced the FSP350-60GLN with ZALMAN ZM460B-ASP. The Zalman is much
quieter.
Regards,
Dima
 
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