Event description for bad block is poor

[DWalker]

My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current udpates.

Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from source
Disk with the message:

The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block

Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS to
always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D drive. The
user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case, it's my C drive.

A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!! Using D, I
get eleven thousand.

The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of message:
they show something else besides a single letter after the second \.

What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition on my
IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't figure out
where XP is getting the D from.

If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly designed
error message.


KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP anyway.

Any comments?


David Walker

 

[Paul]

DWalker wrote:
> My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current udpates.
>
> Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from source
> Disk with the message:
>
> The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block
>
> Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS to
> always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D drive. The
> user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case, it's my C drive.
>
> A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!! Using D, I
> get eleven thousand.
>
> The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of message:
> they show something else besides a single letter after the second \.
>
> What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition on my
> IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't figure out
> where XP is getting the D from.
>
> If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly designed
> error message.
>
>
> KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP anyway.
>
> Any comments?
>
>
> David Walker

To see the naming convention at work, check out this site and get a
copy of "dd". It is a port of "disk dump" from Unix, and if
you open a command window and type "dd --list" , it will give a list
of storage devices on the machine. My Win2K machine has a reference to
\\?\Device\Harddisk0\DR0 when I use the above dd command. I have no idea
what DR0 stands for, as I have a single hard drive, IDE type, as my
C: drive.

http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

Paul

 

[Gerry]

Quote from link below:
According to Microsoft you need to translate the hard disk number to a
physical drive on the system. You can determine the hard disk number by
looking in the registry, but you need to know if you are using IDE
drives, SCSI drives or a combination of the two. Disk Administrator will
display the drives in the order they are enumerated on each controller
and in the order that the controller device drivers are loaded. If you
are using multiple controllers, the order in which they are identified
is based on I/O port and controller BIOS address assignments.
http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7&eventno=672&source=Disk&phase=1

A useful tool for checking Hard Drives is HD Tune.

Try running HD Tune(freeware).

Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


DWalker wrote:
> My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current udpates.
>
> Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from
> source Disk with the message:
>
> The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block
>
> Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS to
> always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D drive.
> The user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case, it's my C
> drive.
>
> A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!! Using
> D, I get eleven thousand.
>
> The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of
> message: they show something else besides a single letter after the
> second \.
>
> What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition
> on my IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't
> figure out where XP is getting the D from.
>
> If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly
> designed error message.
>
>
> KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP anyway.
>
> Any comments?
>
>
> David Walker

 

[DWalker]

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in
news:OAieOg7QIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Quote from link below:
> According to Microsoft you need to translate the hard disk number to a
> physical drive on the system. You can determine the hard disk number
> by looking in the registry, but you need to know if you are using IDE
> drives, SCSI drives or a combination of the two. Disk Administrator
> will display the drives in the order they are enumerated on each
> controller and in the order that the controller device drivers are
> loaded. If you are using multiple controllers, the order in which they
> are identified is based on I/O port and controller BIOS address
> assignments.
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7&eventno=672
&source=Disk&ph
> ase=1
>

It was harddisk0, that much I'm sure of. (It was Master disk on the
primary IDE controller, which is the first drive listed in Disk
Administrator, and is exactly what I would expect.)

Disk zero is my primary master IDE disk. As I mentioned, I'm only using
IDE drives.

In fact, the drive is now sitting on my desk.

I'm not having trouble translating the disk number to a physical drive,
I'm having trouble understanding the "D" after the last slash. That's
not a number.

I already looked at that entry at eventid.net... since I don't feel like
paing for it, the links to KB articles don't work for me. 'Twas a great
site before it went pay. I'll bet they make less money now than they
did when they were free (ads should be more valuable when you have a
bigger audience).

> A useful tool for checking Hard Drives is HD Tune.
>
> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>
> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
> http://www.hdtune.com/
>
> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
> and copy into a further message.
>
> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
> scan with HD Tune.
>

I ran HDTune for a while before I removed the drive from the computer;
there were lots and lots of bad blocks (red squares) near the beginning
of the drive, including the first square. I didn't wait for it to
complete the whole drive.

Still, we're back to my original question: I wonder what the \D in the
event ID message means. Any ideas?

David Walker


>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> DWalker wrote:
>> My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current
>> udpates.
>>
>> Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from
>> source Disk with the message:
>>
>> The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block
>>
>> Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS to
>> always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D drive.
>> The user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case, it's my C
>> drive.
>>
>> A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!! Using
>> D, I get eleven thousand.
>>
>> The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of
>> message: they show something else besides a single letter after the
>> second \.
>>
>> What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition
>> on my IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't
>> figure out where XP is getting the D from.
>>
>> If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly
>> designed error message.
>>
>>
>> KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP anyway.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>>
>> David Walker
>
>
>

 

[DWalker]

Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote in news:fkerls$a73$1@aioe.org:

> DWalker wrote:
>> My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current
>> udpates.
>>
>> Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from
>> source Disk with the message:
>>
>> The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block
>>
>> Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS to
>> always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D drive.
>> The user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case, it's my C
>> drive.
>>
>> A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!! Using
>> D, I get eleven thousand.
>>
>> The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of
>> message: they show something else besides a single letter after the
>> second \.
>>
>> What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition
>> on my IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't
>> figure out where XP is getting the D from.
>>
>> If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly
>> designed error message.
>>
>>
>> KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP anyway.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>>
>> David Walker
>
> To see the naming convention at work, check out this site and get a
> copy of "dd". It is a port of "disk dump" from Unix, and if
> you open a command window and type "dd --list" , it will give a list
> of storage devices on the machine. My Win2K machine has a reference to
> \\?\Device\Harddisk0\DR0 when I use the above dd command. I have no
> idea what DR0 stands for, as I have a single hard drive, IDE type, as
> my C: drive.
>
> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
>
> Paul

Thanks for that reference. I don't get DR0 in the event message; I get
D. Which means what?

On my XP system at work (not the one which had the problem) dd --list
tells me \\?\Device\Harddisk<n>\Partition<n> and \\?\Device\Harddisk<n>
\DR<n> for my various disks. It doesn't help me figure out which one is
which disk, since some of them are the exact same size.

None of that really helps me understand why the event message says
\Device\Harddisk0\D.

It seems that there oughta be an answer! Thanks though. dd is
interesting.

David

 

[Paul]

DWalker wrote:

>
> Thanks for that reference. I don't get DR0 in the event message; I get
> D. Which means what?
>
> On my XP system at work (not the one which had the problem) dd --list
> tells me \\?\Device\Harddisk<n>\Partition<n> and \\?\Device\Harddisk<n>
> \DR<n> for my various disks. It doesn't help me figure out which one is
> which disk, since some of them are the exact same size.
>
> None of that really helps me understand why the event message says
> \Device\Harddisk0\D.
>
> It seems that there oughta be an answer! Thanks though. dd is
> interesting.
>
> David
>

I didn't find an answer to the question, when I tried to satisfy
my curiosity previously.

Paul

 

[Gerry]

It costs nothing to write down the KB article number and to look them up
using Microsoft Advanced Search.

Have you looked in Disk Management -Start, Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DWalker wrote:
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:OAieOg7QIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> Quote from link below:
>> According to Microsoft you need to translate the hard disk number to
>> a physical drive on the system. You can determine the hard disk
>> number by looking in the registry, but you need to know if you are
>> using IDE drives, SCSI drives or a combination of the two. Disk
>> Administrator will display the drives in the order they are
>> enumerated on each controller and in the order that the controller
>> device drivers are loaded. If you are using multiple controllers,
>> the order in which they are identified is based on I/O port and
>> controller BIOS address assignments.
>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7&eventno=672
>> &source=Disk&ph ase=1
>>
>
> It was harddisk0, that much I'm sure of. (It was Master disk on the
> primary IDE controller, which is the first drive listed in Disk
> Administrator, and is exactly what I would expect.)
>
> Disk zero is my primary master IDE disk. As I mentioned, I'm only
> using IDE drives.
>
> In fact, the drive is now sitting on my desk.
>
> I'm not having trouble translating the disk number to a physical
> drive, I'm having trouble understanding the "D" after the last slash.
> That's not a number.
>
> I already looked at that entry at eventid.net... since I don't feel
> like paing for it, the links to KB articles don't work for me. 'Twas
> a great site before it went pay. I'll bet they make less money now
> than they did when they were free (ads should be more valuable when
> you have a bigger audience).
>
>> A useful tool for checking Hard Drives is HD Tune.
>>
>> Try running HD Tune(freeware).
>>
>> Download and run it and see what it turns up.
>> http://www.hdtune.com/
>>
>> Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
>> letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
>> and copy into a further message.
>>
>> Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
>> to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full
>> surface scan with HD Tune.
>>
>
> I ran HDTune for a while before I removed the drive from the computer;
> there were lots and lots of bad blocks (red squares) near the
> beginning of the drive, including the first square. I didn't wait
> for it to complete the whole drive.
>
> Still, we're back to my original question: I wonder what the \D in
> the event ID message means. Any ideas?
>
> David Walker
>
>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> DWalker wrote:
>>> My system has IDE drives only, Windows XP SP2 and all current
>>> udpates.
>>>
>>> Now that I am having bad blocks on drive C, I get Event ID 7 from
>>> source Disk with the message:
>>>
>>> The device, \Device\Harddisk0\D, has a bad block
>>>
>>> Google shows me that other people have asked why the message SEEMS
>>> to always tell you that your D drive is bad. I don't have a D
>>> drive. The user whose post I saw had a bad F drive; in my case,
>>> it's my C drive.
>>>
>>> A Google search for "Device\Harddisk0\C" gave me only 2 hits!!
>>> Using D, I get eleven thousand.
>>>
>>> The samples in various KB articles don't even show this form of
>>> message: they show something else besides a single letter after the
>>> second \.
>>>
>>> What is the D supposed to mean here? Drive C is the first partition
>>> on my IDE primary master disk (basic disks, not dynamic). I can't
>>> figure out where XP is getting the D from.
>>>
>>> If it's not supposed to refer to the D drive, then it's a horribly
>>> designed error message.
>>>
>>>
>>> KB article 159865 is useless, although it doesn't apply to XP
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>>
>>> David Walker