Emegrncy help needed please

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My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be stopped.

By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and Windows
said it had downloaded an update and will restart my computer if I do not
press cancel within 5 minutes.

I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have the
choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel these
messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and losing 4 hours
work.

Is there a way to stop this?

How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the computer
automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to turn off automatic
updates and check nothing is about to install before I start this process
and then remember to turn it back on again afterwards (or have the hassle of
managing updates manually) but there is no reason to make me go through
this.
 
"Lorne" <lorne_anderson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be stopped.
>
> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and Windows
> said it had downloaded an update and will restart my computer if I do not
> press cancel within 5 minutes.
>
> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have the
> choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel these
> messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and losing 4
> hours work.
>
> Is there a way to stop this?
>
> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the computer
> automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to turn off automatic
> updates and check nothing is about to install before I start this process
> and then remember to turn it back on again afterwards (or have the hassle
> of managing updates manually) but there is no reason to make me go through
> this.


Ctrl-Alt Del brings up the task manager. You can stop the update from
there. It will still install itself when you finally do reboot.

.... and yes, this does qualify as one of the most stupid features ever.
 
Lorne wrote:
> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be
> stopped.
> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and
> Windows said it had downloaded an update and will restart my
> computer if I do not press cancel within 5 minutes.
>
> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have
> the choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel
> these messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and
> losing 4 hours work.
>
> Is there a way to stop this?
>
> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the
> computer automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to
> turn off automatic updates and check nothing is about to install
> before I start this process and then remember to turn it back on
> again afterwards (or have the hassle of managing updates manually)
> but there is no reason to make me go through this.


Unfortunately - I believe the registry entries I can give you only work
after a reboot...:-(

Copy this into a notepad document:

<copy below here>

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000000
"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001
"RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:0x0007d280

<copy above here>

5 lines - watch for wrapping...
Save as "NoMoreNag.reg" and then right-click and merge it into your system.
Reboot.

Even if it nags (shouldn't) - it will do it once every year or so.

You could try putting in the registry entry anyway... Without the reboot.
But I thought it required the reboot.

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MS-MVP
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"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Lorne" <lorne_anderson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e0ogzHXPIHA.5140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be stopped.
>>
>> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and Windows
>> said it had downloaded an update and will restart my computer if I do not
>> press cancel within 5 minutes.
>>
>> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have the
>> choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel these
>> messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and losing 4
>> hours work.
>>
>> Is there a way to stop this?
>>
>> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the computer
>> automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to turn off
>> automatic updates and check nothing is about to install before I start
>> this process and then remember to turn it back on again afterwards (or
>> have the hassle of managing updates manually) but there is no reason to
>> make me go through this.

>
> Ctrl-Alt Del brings up the task manager. You can stop the update from
> there. It will still install itself when you finally do reboot.
>
> ... and yes, this does qualify as one of the most stupid features ever.
>

Many thanks, but I have now found an even more stupid feature - if I end the
wuauclt.exe process (I assume that is the right one) the icon disappears
from the system tray for a while but then notices it has been shut down and
comes back again :(
 
Many thanks - this seems to have worked as the message now reads "do you
want to restart your computer now" but has no 5 minute count down.

I did however stop the process in task manager thinking that when it
restarted itself it might read the registry - not sure if that was required
or not but at least I can go and have lunch in peace!


"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lorne wrote:
>> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be
>> stopped.
>> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and
>> Windows said it had downloaded an update and will restart my
>> computer if I do not press cancel within 5 minutes.
>>
>> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have
>> the choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel
>> these messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and
>> losing 4 hours work.
>>
>> Is there a way to stop this?
>>
>> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the
>> computer automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to
>> turn off automatic updates and check nothing is about to install
>> before I start this process and then remember to turn it back on
>> again afterwards (or have the hassle of managing updates manually)
>> but there is no reason to make me go through this.

>
> Unfortunately - I believe the registry entries I can give you only work
> after a reboot...:-(
>
> Copy this into a notepad document:
>
> <copy below here>
>
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
> "RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000000
> "NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001
> "RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:0x0007d280
>
> <copy above here>
>
> 5 lines - watch for wrapping...
> Save as "NoMoreNag.reg" and then right-click and merge it into your
> system.
> Reboot.
>
> Even if it nags (shouldn't) - it will do it once every year or so.
>
> You could try putting in the registry entry anyway... Without the reboot.
> But I thought it required the reboot.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
 
Lorne wrote:
> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be stopped.
>
> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and Windows
> said it had downloaded an update and will restart my computer if I do not
> press cancel within 5 minutes.
>
> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have the
> choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel these
> messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and losing 4 hours
> work.
>
> Is there a way to stop this?
>
> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the computer
> automatically ?



Microsoft built that feature in for people who don't like or want to
control what's happening to their own computers, but nevertheless need
the updates. Those who don't want this sort of thing to happen simply
configure Windows Update to notify them of the availability of Updates,
rather automatically installing them. It was your choice to leave the
default settings in place, so it's a bit unfair to blame Microsoft,
don't you think?


> It looks like in future I will have to turn off automatic
> updates and check nothing is about to install before I start this process
> and then remember to turn it back on again afterwards (or have the hassle of
> managing updates manually) but there is no reason to make me go through
> this.
>
>



Actually, there's *every* reason for you to "have to go through this"
if you want to assume control of your own computer.

No one should use the Automatic Updates, unless they take
precautions to ensure that no patches get installed without the user's
express permission, given only after he/she has researched each
individual patch to ensure that it applies and is necessary. Due to the
nearly infinite number of possible combinations of hardware, device
drivers, and applications on any given PC, it's impossible to guarantee
that all patches will be 100% harmless. In a very small number of
cases, patches and hotfixes can cause conflicts or other problems. So,
as with all changes to an OS, caution is advised.

In the overwhelming majority of cases, all "Critical" updates
should be installed. These address serious issues that can affect a
large number of computers. There will be only rare occasions when a
Critical update will not apply. Of special importance are those that
address security vulnerabilities. If people had installed the available
critical updates in July of 2003, the Blaster and Welchia worms would
not have spread throughout the Internet the following month. In the
unlikely event that problems do develop, you can always use the Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet or a System Restore Point to
uninstall the troublesome hotfix.

For the "Recommended" updates, simply study the information
provided to see if these updates apply in your specific situation. If
they don't apply, or you're not experiencing the problem(s) addressed,
you needn't install them. For instance, I have no use for WinXP's
MovieMaker, so I ignore any updates to it. Again, in the unlikely
event that problems do develop, you can always use the Control Panel's
Add/Remove Programs applet or a System Restore Point to uninstall the
troublesome hotfix.

In general, though, I've found it best *not* to download the
"Driver" updates from Windows Update, unless they're for a hardware
device originally manufactured by Microsoft. Device drivers provided
by each component's manufacturer's web site are likely to perform
better and offer more features than will the watered-down, "generic"
drivers that those manufacturers provide to Microsoft for distribution
via Windows Update.


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Bruce Chambers

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Automatically restarting is expected if you have Windows/Microsoft
Update set to Automatic.
Any of the other options will not reboot.
To change settings:
Right click My Computer and click Properties.
Click windows Update tab.
Make selections as desired.

If you turn off, be sure to regularly check for updates.
You will get no messages or warnings of new updates.
Normally updates are released the 2nd Tuesday of each month.
But there are exceptions.

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"Lorne" <lorne_anderson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0ogzHXPIHA.5140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> My computer is half way through a 7 hour process that can't be
> stopped.
>
> By chance I happened to look at the screen a few minutes ago and
> Windows said it had downloaded an update and will restart my
> computer if I do not press cancel within 5 minutes.
>
> I cancelled but the message has now come up again. I seem to have
> the choice of sitting by my computer for 3 hours waiting to cancel
> these messages until the process finishes or letting it reboot and
> losing 4 hours work.
>
> Is there a way to stop this?
>
> How can Microsoft write such stupid software that reboots the
> computer automatically ? It looks like in future I will have to
> turn off automatic updates and check nothing is about to install
> before I start this process and then remember to turn it back on
> again afterwards (or have the hassle of managing updates manually)
> but there is no reason to make me go through this.
 
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