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Dan Conrad

I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.
 
On Jan 2, 9:33 pm, Dan Conrad <dcon...@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote:
> I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
>    can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.


A "slave" is a second drive on the same connector. Only a SATA drive
can be a slave to a SATA drive. SATA connectors are totally diferent
than IDE connectors.

If your mobo also has IDE connectors, then your IDE drives go there.
 
Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote:

>I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
> can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.


AFAIK, SATA drives don't use the master/slave configuration. Each SATA
drive has a separate connection to the motherboard.

You can have two EIDE drives connected to the same motherboard
connector. That's when you need to set one "master" and one "slave" so
that the system can talk to the right one at the right time.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
Tim Slattery wrote:
> Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
>> can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.

>
>
> AFAIK, SATA drives don't use the master/slave configuration. Each SATA
> drive has a separate connection to the motherboard.
>
> You can have two EIDE drives connected to the same motherboard
> connector. That's when you need to set one "master" and one "slave" so
> that the system can talk to the right one at the right time.
>

Thanks -- still a bit confused -- how will system identify the boot
disk? --wanted that to be the sata. I assume this will be obvious in
the bios? Sorry for naive question as have only set up ide drives
before. Thanks again.
 
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:33:32 -0500, Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu>
wrote:

> I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
> can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.




No. You are apparently unaware of what the term "slave" means when
referring to hard drives.

On one IDE channel you can normally connect two hard on a single IDE
cable. Normally one of those drives is called the master and the other
called the slave.

SATA doesn't use the master/slave relationship, and even if it did,
you couldn't connect an IDE drive to a SATA connector.

However, my guess that what you really want to know is can you install
both SATA and PATA (IDE) drives on a single motherboard. The answer to
that question is yes.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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On Jan 2, 11:08 pm, PD <pauld1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 9:33 pm, Dan Conrad <dcon...@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote:
>
> > I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
> >    can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.

>
> A "slave" is a second drive on the same connector.  Only a SATA drive
> can be a slave to a SATA drive. SATA connectors are totally diferent
> than IDE connectors.
>
> If your mobo also has IDE connectors, then your IDE drives go there.


There are "no" slave drives on a SATA cable. Every SATA drive has a
"direct" connection to the motherboard. It's the BIOS that tells XP
which SATA drive is the "slave" drive.
 
Yes -- that is what I wanted to know -- and in bios I can identify which
is to be the boot disk? Sorry my question was confusing -- I have hooked
up master/slave -- but my confusion relates to how I tell system which
is the primary boot disk when using sata and ide hookups. Again with
the ide -- the system uses the primary ide and master disk on this -- if
sata is there as well was not sure how to handle. Thanks.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:33:32 -0500, Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
>> can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.

>
>
>
>
> No. You are apparently unaware of what the term "slave" means when
> referring to hard drives.
>
> On one IDE channel you can normally connect two hard on a single IDE
> cable. Normally one of those drives is called the master and the other
> called the slave.
>
> SATA doesn't use the master/slave relationship, and even if it did,
> you couldn't connect an IDE drive to a SATA connector.
>
> However, my guess that what you really want to know is can you install
> both SATA and PATA (IDE) drives on a single motherboard. The answer to
> that question is yes.
>
>
 
Kinda depends don't it? You haven't divulged the SATA needed configuration
in the bios for recognition of SATA hard drives. Nor, the bios boot order
of hard disks available. Ken's good, but he's not psychic.

In all cases, I've seen, you can make the SATA hard drive the boot drive.
How to get there depends on your bios, and, whether early SATA, or more
current SATA bios/SATA drive capable. Yes, the ide drives can be caused to
take the "back seat". Slave designation is not accurate if both on the same
ide connector.

--
Dave
"Dan Conrad" <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote in message
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> Yes -- that is what I wanted to know -- and in bios I can identify which
> is to be the boot disk? Sorry my question was confusing -- I have hooked
> up master/slave -- but my confusion relates to how I tell system which is
> the primary boot disk when using sata and ide hookups. Again with the
> ide -- the system uses the primary ide and master disk on this -- if sata
> is there as well was not sure how to handle. Thanks.
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:33:32 -0500, Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am installing a new motherboard and planned to use a single sata HD --
>>> can I have IDE drives as slaves? Thanks.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> No. You are apparently unaware of what the term "slave" means when
>> referring to hard drives.
>>
>> On one IDE channel you can normally connect two hard on a single IDE
>> cable. Normally one of those drives is called the master and the other
>> called the slave.
>>
>> SATA doesn't use the master/slave relationship, and even if it did,
>> you couldn't connect an IDE drive to a SATA connector.
>>
>> However, my guess that what you really want to know is can you install
>> both SATA and PATA (IDE) drives on a single motherboard. The answer to
>> that question is yes.
>>
 
Dan Conrad <dconrad@hsc.vcu.edu> wrote:

>Thanks -- still a bit confused -- how will system identify the boot
>disk? --wanted that to be the sata. I assume this will be obvious in
>the bios? Sorry for naive question as have only set up ide drives
>before. Thanks again.


Check your BIOS setup. You should be able to set the order in which
your drives are checked for an OS during bootup. (When you want to
boot from a CD, you have to put that first in the order. Putting it
lower down might speed things up when you don't want to boot from it.)

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 

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