Thx, I have found this thread to be quite useful and pointed quite a few
others to it as well as noticed others are reading it.
I think that the big unanswered question on the net about WINS is what
happens when you don't have it and what does it really give you? If you were
to ask me, I don't see issues right now without it, but the network has
issues that I haven't even had time to look at since I just started for this
client.
MOM is a Jnightmare and exchange is OK, blackberry hangs up alot on reboots,
etc.
so the question is where is wins good and why does MS keep saying you don't
need it. Right now the standard thought is that with ex2003 and an 2003
domain in native mode, wins isn't needed but they aren't sure what won't work.
So if you go to ex2007 where everything works, then wins becomes useless
unless you have browser issues with pc's, but broadcasting seems OK. I guess
it would be great to find some place to really see some in depth article on
wins and why to have it and when you don't need it, whether it is site size
dependent, clients, etc.
Thanks again,Jake
"SPiderman" wrote:
> Hi,
> Appreciate the help, the only question that was outstanding was how come
> browsing works with WINS disabled?
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
> > SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Isn't the whole thing from MS been for a few years to get people off
> > > of WINS?
> >
> > Most people I know still use it. Exchange likes to have it running. I don't
> > see a downside.
> >
> > This thread is getting pretty long and I think I've answered your questions
> > to the best of my ability, so try my suggestions or don't. As mentioned, if
> > you want to browse, use WINS, and also disable the computer browser service
> > (use GP for this).
> > >
> > > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>> OK, Let me see if this is right.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Disable browser service on all computers but dc's
> > >>
> > >> Yes.
> > >>
> > >>> 2. Enable wins and network places works.
> > >>
> > >> When you enable WINS, make sure you set up your DHCP scope to give
> > >> out the WINS server and also the node type - 0x8 for hybrid node.
> > >>
> > >>> 3. Once we migrate to exchange 2007 then I turn off wins,
> > >>
> > >> No ...
> > >>
> > >>> enable
> > >>> computer browser service and then network places works again?
> > >>
> > >> You should then leave it be. Exchange isn't relevant here.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Right now there is no WINS so how is network places working?
> > >>
> > >> Broadcast - which is very inefficient.
> > >>>
> > >>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> OK, now you got me confused. So without WINS leave computer
> > >>>>> browser service on, but disable NETBT, you mean per pc, disable
> > >>>>> netbios over tcp in the wins properties? Then browsing is done
> > >>>>> via dns, IE: Users can still use network places?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Network Places uses NetBIOS - so if you disable NetBIOS over
> > >>>> TCP/IP, they won't be able to use that feature.
> > >>>> If you want them to be able to do so, use WINS, and disable their
> > >>>> computer browser services.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> thx, that was my understanding as wins fills that in. Without
> > >>>>>>> wins though if you disable that service then the users won't
> > >>>>>>> have that right? But without wins you wouldn't get those damn
> > >>>>>>> browser errors everywhere anyway ? 
Right I hope )
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If you disable the computer browser service & don't have WINS,
> > >>>>>> your browsing isn't going to work, but you shouldn't see election
> > >>>>>> errors. If you're not going to use WINS, disable NetBT anyway....
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, someone once mentioned if you disable this service on
> > >>>>>>>>> all computers then their network places wouldn't work.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> No, not if you have WINS....
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I tested and
> > >>>>>>>>> didn't see it, but never went that far. So which servers do
> > >>>>>>>>> you leave the browser service running on? Just your wins
> > >>>>>>>>> servers or all dc's?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> All DCs, but then, I tend to run fairly small networks.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> SPiderman <SPiderman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have stumbled across this issue for years now. Why do the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> servers always have the alerts in the event logs that a pc
> > >>>>>>>>>>> or other server then a DC believes it is the Master
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Browser? I have read a bunch of articles, reviewed WINS -
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I only have 1 wins box running, it shows the right entry
> > >>>>>>>>>>> for the Master Browser.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I have read many people just disable the computer browser
> > >>>>>>>>>>> service on member servers and desktop/laptops. Please
> > >>>>>>>>>>> advise?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I always do that, via group policy. It makes all this
> > >>>>>>>>>> nonsense go away very easily, and I really see no downside.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> However, you should verity that all member servers/clients
> > >>>>>>>>>> arer egistering in WINS, are using the right node type (0x8,
> > >>>>>>>>>> for hybrid....you set this in your DHCP scope options), and
> > >>>>>>>>>> try running browmon.exe from the resource kit
> > >>>>>>>>>> (google/download from MS).
> >
> >
> >
> >