After going through a big hassle....

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Max

After going through a big hassle with the latest IE7 updates (KB942615), I
have to ventilate my feeling!

My God, what is Windows a hassle!!! Since Win95 you have countless hassles,
patches, servicepacks & updates why not an OS that works smoothly like Apple
OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows, it's time they do their job
properly instead of forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money each time!!
Vista seems to be even worse!! I don't bother buying it before all flaws are
ironed out!

Max.
 
Can't make a direct comparison between a PC and an Apple. Apple is
a "Closed System" - tightly controlled, minimal 3rd party hardware and
applications. Contrary to popular belief an Apple/OS-X is NOT immune
from Viruses/Malware. It's just the authors don't bother with such a
miniscule market share Computer/OS. However recently Apple computers
had a Malware threat released against them.

Do patches have unanticipated results - you bet they do. There is no way
to test against every single combination of Hardware/Software that Windows
supports.

"Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D338998D-EF0B-4199-B0FB-5C25527BC168@microsoft.com...
> After going through a big hassle with the latest IE7 updates (KB942615), I
> have to ventilate my feeling!
>
> My God, what is Windows a hassle!!! Since Win95 you have countless
> hassles,
> patches, servicepacks & updates why not an OS that works smoothly like
> Apple
> OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows, it's time they do their job
> properly instead of forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money each time!!
> Vista seems to be even worse!! I don't bother buying it before all flaws
> are
> ironed out!
>
> Max.
>
 
"Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D338998D-EF0B-4199-B0FB-5C25527BC168@microsoft.com...
> After going through a big hassle with the latest IE7 updates (KB942615), I
> have to ventilate my feeling!
>
> My God, what is Windows a hassle!!! Since Win95 you have countless
> hassles,
> patches, servicepacks & updates why not an OS that works smoothly like
> Apple
> OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows, it's time they do their job
> properly instead of forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money each time!!
> Vista seems to be even worse!! I don't bother buying it before all flaws
> are
> ironed out!
>
> Max.

Please let us know when you intend to step down from your soap box.

By the way, if you like Apple so much, what are you doing here?
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:07:09 -0800, Max
<Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>why not an OS that works smoothly like Apple
>OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows,

....And there's a Catch22 in that statement. If Apple had 95% of the
market, all the malware/virus writers would be targeting Apples, and
it would be the Windows OS that "works smoothly." :)

--
Zilbandy
 
Since no one is "forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money", perhaps
you should try an Apple.

Your comparison is not to valid because of some of the main
differences, a few being:
A larger % of users makes it more attractive for malware writers.
Apples exerts far more control on their systems, Microsoft doe not
even make systems.

"I don't bother buying it before all flaws are ironed out!"
Then you will never buy Windows vista.
If you apply that standard to other software, you never buy any other
software from any manufacturer.
If you apply that to other products outside of computers, you may buy
nothing else ever again.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar



"Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D338998D-EF0B-4199-B0FB-5C25527BC168@microsoft.com...
> After going through a big hassle with the latest IE7 updates
> (KB942615), I
> have to ventilate my feeling!
>
> My God, what is Windows a hassle!!! Since Win95 you have countless
> hassles,
> patches, servicepacks & updates why not an OS that works smoothly
> like Apple
> OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows, it's time they do their
> job
> properly instead of forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money each
> time!!
> Vista seems to be even worse!! I don't bother buying it before all
> flaws are
> ironed out!
>
> Max.
 
To all responders: yes, you're right Apple is a niche market and each
software has its inevitable flaws and people need working on it for
improvement. 99% of the time XP works just fine for me and I see continue
improvements since Win95! I was just angry!

Max.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Since no one is "forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money", perhaps
> you should try an Apple.
>
> Your comparison is not to valid because of some of the main
> differences, a few being:
> A larger % of users makes it more attractive for malware writers.
> Apples exerts far more control on their systems, Microsoft doe not
> even make systems.
>
> "I don't bother buying it before all flaws are ironed out!"
> Then you will never buy Windows vista.
> If you apply that standard to other software, you never buy any other
> software from any manufacturer.
> If you apply that to other products outside of computers, you may buy
> nothing else ever again.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>
>
>
> "Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D338998D-EF0B-4199-B0FB-5C25527BC168@microsoft.com...
> > After going through a big hassle with the latest IE7 updates
> > (KB942615), I
> > have to ventilate my feeling!
> >
> > My God, what is Windows a hassle!!! Since Win95 you have countless
> > hassles,
> > patches, servicepacks & updates why not an OS that works smoothly
> > like Apple
> > OS's!?? 95% of the world works with Windows, it's time they do their
> > job
> > properly instead of forcing us to upgrade & pay lots of money each
> > time!!
> > Vista seems to be even worse!! I don't bother buying it before all
> > flaws are
> > ironed out!
> >
> > Max.
>
>
 
Max
"99% of the time XP works just fine for me"
It seems like you should stay with Windows XP depending of course on
the other 1%.
Since computers continue to be sold with Windows XP, Windows XP
continues to be for sale and Windows XP will probably be supported for
several more years, there is no reason for most to upgrade.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar



"Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:83889FCD-8C3C-4553-9F09-6260CCF9FA6C@microsoft.com...
> To all responders: yes, you're right Apple is a niche market and
> each
> software has its inevitable flaws and people need working on it for
> improvement. 99% of the time XP works just fine for me and I see
> continue
> improvements since Win95! I was just angry!
>
> Max.
 
You're right Jupiter Jones, I'll stick to XP.
Quite often I help people with their PC and a real plague is those OEM
pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!! I strongly
prefer a 'bare' PC and do the formatting & installation (of an genuine MS
version) all myself!

Max.
=========
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> Max
> "99% of the time XP works just fine for me"
> It seems like you should stay with Windows XP depending of course on
> the other 1%.
> Since computers continue to be sold with Windows XP, Windows XP
> continues to be for sale and Windows XP will probably be supported for
> several more years, there is no reason for most to upgrade.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>
>
>
> "Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:83889FCD-8C3C-4553-9F09-6260CCF9FA6C@microsoft.com...
> > To all responders: yes, you're right Apple is a niche market and
> > each
> > software has its inevitable flaws and people need working on it for
> > improvement. 99% of the time XP works just fine for me and I see
> > continue
> > improvements since Win95! I was just angry!
> >
> > Max.
>
>
 
"pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!!"
Then they come here and other places complaining their new computer is
slow.
They often need more memory, but simply disabling junk from starting
at boot or uninstalling the junk can be as effective and cheaper than
adding memory.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar


"Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB2AB391-8D99-4A66-81BB-4797F7BE1E46@microsoft.com...
> You're right Jupiter Jones, I'll stick to XP.
> Quite often I help people with their PC and a real plague is those
> OEM
> pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!! I
> strongly
> prefer a 'bare' PC and do the formatting & installation (of an
> genuine MS
> version) all myself!
>
> Max.
 
Also very frustrating to see is how many programs (bells & whistles) people
are not aware of or never use, are started up each time and run in the
background! People have no clue, are so helpless but in most cases are too
lazy to learn the PC basics!!
They never have heard of 'msconfig' etc. but complain of a slow PC, they try
to 'uninstall software' by removing the shortcuts from the desktop!! My
brother's PC, brandnew in unused 'virgin condition' with OEM XP Home (+ bells
& whistles) pre-installed had a whopping 9GB of his harddisk wasted from the
start!
=====
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> "pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!!"
> Then they come here and other places complaining their new computer is
> slow.
> They often need more memory, but simply disabling junk from starting
> at boot or uninstalling the junk can be as effective and cheaper than
> adding memory.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>
>
> "Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AB2AB391-8D99-4A66-81BB-4797F7BE1E46@microsoft.com...
> > You're right Jupiter Jones, I'll stick to XP.
> > Quite often I help people with their PC and a real plague is those
> > OEM
> > pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!! I
> > strongly
> > prefer a 'bare' PC and do the formatting & installation (of an
> > genuine MS
> > version) all myself!
> >
> > Max.
>
>
 
Max wrote:
> You're right Jupiter Jones, I'll stick to XP.
> Quite often I help people with their PC and a real plague is those OEM
> pre-installed PC's with all bells & whistles you never asked for!! I strongly
> prefer a 'bare' PC and do the formatting & installation (of an genuine MS
> version) all myself!
>
> Max.
> =========
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Max
>> "99% of the time XP works just fine for me"
>> It seems like you should stay with Windows XP depending of course on
>> the other 1%.
>> Since computers continue to be sold with Windows XP, Windows XP
>> continues to be for sale and Windows XP will probably be supported for
>> several more years, there is no reason for most to upgrade.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>
>>
>>
>> "Max" <Max@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:83889FCD-8C3C-4553-9F09-6260CCF9FA6C@microsoft.com...
>>> To all responders: yes, you're right Apple is a niche market and
>>> each
>>> software has its inevitable flaws and people need working on it for
>>> improvement. 99% of the time XP works just fine for me and I see
>>> continue
>>> improvements since Win95! I was just angry!
>>>
>>> Max.
>>
I accept this comment .OEM PC which are built for home and home office
users are full of crap.Never works properly.Performance shouldnt be a
problem but no stability.Components inside the system will fail to work
properly every now and then.There customer support also is not very
effective for home users
 
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:41:00 -0800, Max wrote:

> Also very frustrating to see is how many programs (bells & whistles) people
> are not aware of or never use, are started up each time and run in the
> background! People have no clue, are so helpless but in most cases are too
> lazy to learn the PC basics!!
> They never have heard of 'msconfig' etc. but complain of a slow PC, they try
> to 'uninstall software' by removing the shortcuts from the desktop!! My
> brother's PC, brandnew in unused 'virgin condition' with OEM XP Home (+ bells
> & whistles) pre-installed had a whopping 9GB of his harddisk wasted from the
> start!
A very useful application for any *new* pc is the PC Decrapifier, it
attempts to remove all of the crap on your PC that you never asked for...
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
 
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