"Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> You can't. You will just have to give the everyone object permission to
>> the folder. You cannot secure it against the security principals from
>> the other OS as it is not active or contactable from the one running OS.
>> The name of the account is irrelevant as it is actually the objects
>> Security ID (SID) that is placed on the Access Control Entry (ACE) on the
>> Access Control List (ACL) for the folder object.
>
> Both Vi$ta and XP use the same NTFS file systems. Can't the security
> wizard open the user database in another partition and extract the
> relevant information?
>
No. The Security Account Manager (SAM) database on an instance of Windows
is more then a file to open. So one running instance on your PC cannot
access the SAM in the other operating system. If you want true cross
instance security management then you need to a move to a domain model with
Windows Servers building a shared directory service for all machines and
operating system instances, an Active Directory. (No you cannot "run" an
Active Directory in a client PC OS like XP or Vista, it is a server only
function)
Bascially within a running OS that is in a workgroup or none networked
environment the only security principals it has access to are those in its
own SAM and for other systems to access files or folder secured using NTFS
ACLs then you need to use account objects such as Guest or Everyone etc
>> (Also you appear to have a problem spelling Vista - it is an s not a $
>> unless you are trying to be cute like the idiots that put a $ in
>> Microsoft. If you have a point to make about the product do it elsewhere,
>> if you want to ask questions then just try referring to the product and
>> company by their correct names).
>
> I am not trying to be cute nor trying to promote anything. I will continue
> addressing it as Vi$ta. I did spend over HK$2000 to buy my Vi$ta Ultimate
> Upgrade, which would likely end up as WinMe.....
>
Well it lacks respect.
As regards your Vista Ultimate becoming like Windows ME - there is no
possibility of that. Windows ME was a dead end product at the end of the
Win 9x product line. Windows Vista is the ongoing development of the NT
desktop operating lineage from Windows NT via Windows 2000 and Windows XP to
where we are today and onward to Windows 7 and future releases. All
effectively built on generational models of the kernel (with some backports
and cross development from the server team) and ongoing security tightening
and innovation. So Windows 7 takes all the work on Vista and continues to
move it forward, so it is worth noting that anyone thinking it will be
easier to go from XP to Windows 7 then from XP to Vista is going to be sadly
mistaken as the underlying security hardening that has caused issues with
drivers and application compatibility between XP and Vista is still there
under the cover of Windows 7, so the best and easiest migration will
actually be from Vista to Windows 7.
So no, your Windows Vista will not end up like ME.
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