64bit and 32 bit

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I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
them is the Activation code.

If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
the full disk, we are talking OEM.

I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
gig on it, so should partition easily.

Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)


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With OEM what you see is what you have. You have to buy 64bit if you want
it.

"wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
> them is the Activation code.
>
> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
>
> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
> gig on it, so should partition easily.
>
> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
>
>
> --
> wysiwyg
 
Hi,

The 32 and 64 bit versions are not on the same disk, they are on separate
ones. What is on the same disk is all the "flavors" of Vista, ie: Home
Basic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate (Starter and Enterprise are
not). The Product Key determines which of these can be installed. The
activation code is what is generated by a combination of the Product Key and
a hardware hash derived from the system. Your Product Key is valid for
either a 32-bit *or* a 64-bit installation, but not both at the same time,
even if you are dual booting and only using one at a time. For a 64-bit
installation, you will need to locate 64-bit OEM media. Product Keys are not
interchangeable between retail and OEM media, you must use the correct type.
A retail Vista Ultimate package would normally contain both media types, OEM
ones frequently do not.

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Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
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"wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
> them is the Activation code.
>
> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
>
> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
> gig on it, so should partition easily.
>
> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
>
>
> --
> wysiwyg
 
Thanks, thats where I got it wrong, its just the different "flavours"
not the "bit" setting.

Ho hum, hand in pocket.:eek:


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wysiwyg
 
I have a retail Vista Ultimate Upgrade so have both 32 and 64 bit DVD's. I
run 32 but my processors can support 64.
Firstly is there any advantage in using 64 bit
Secondly could I install the 64 bit as I was upgrading from 32 bit XP
and Thirdly, if it is OK, how do I do it, the 64 bit disc does not seem to
want to boot.

John Meers


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uX4Zat9wIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> The 32 and 64 bit versions are not on the same disk, they are on separate
> ones. What is on the same disk is all the "flavors" of Vista, ie: Home
> Basic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate (Starter and Enterprise are
> not). The Product Key determines which of these can be installed. The
> activation code is what is generated by a combination of the Product Key
> and a hardware hash derived from the system. Your Product Key is valid for
> either a 32-bit *or* a 64-bit installation, but not both at the same time,
> even if you are dual booting and only using one at a time. For a 64-bit
> installation, you will need to locate 64-bit OEM media. Product Keys are
> not interchangeable between retail and OEM media, you must use the correct
> type. A retail Vista Ultimate package would normally contain both media
> types, OEM ones frequently do not.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:a69e912067363b5f0bb297ba4fe81a8f@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
>> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
>> them is the Activation code.
>>
>> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
>> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
>>
>> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
>> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
>> gig on it, so should partition easily.
>>
>> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
>>
>>
>> --
>> wysiwyg
>
 
Do NOT tack your question onto another poster's problem!
Start your own thread!
What you are doing is totally ignorant!
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"John Meers" wrote:

> I have a retail Vista Ultimate Upgrade so have both 32 and 64 bit DVD's. I
> run 32 but my processors can support 64.
> Firstly is there any advantage in using 64 bit
> Secondly could I install the 64 bit as I was upgrading from 32 bit XP
> and Thirdly, if it is OK, how do I do it, the 64 bit disc does not seem to
> want to boot.
>
> John Meers
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uX4Zat9wIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > The 32 and 64 bit versions are not on the same disk, they are on separate
> > ones. What is on the same disk is all the "flavors" of Vista, ie: Home
> > Basic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate (Starter and Enterprise are
> > not). The Product Key determines which of these can be installed. The
> > activation code is what is generated by a combination of the Product Key
> > and a hardware hash derived from the system. Your Product Key is valid for
> > either a 32-bit *or* a 64-bit installation, but not both at the same time,
> > even if you are dual booting and only using one at a time. For a 64-bit
> > installation, you will need to locate 64-bit OEM media. Product Keys are
> > not interchangeable between retail and OEM media, you must use the correct
> > type. A retail Vista Ultimate package would normally contain both media
> > types, OEM ones frequently do not.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >
> > "wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> > news:a69e912067363b5f0bb297ba4fe81a8f@nntp-gateway.com...
> >>
> >> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
> >> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
> >> them is the Activation code.
> >>
> >> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
> >> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
> >>
> >> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
> >> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
> >> gig on it, so should partition easily.
> >>
> >> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> wysiwyg
> >
>
 
Hi,

> Firstly is there any advantage in using 64 bit

Only if you have applications that can take advantage of it and have more
than 4GB of installed memory.

> Secondly could I install the 64 bit as I was upgrading from 32 bit XP

Certainly, it would just end up being a clean installation.

> and Thirdly, if it is OK, how do I do it, the 64 bit disc does not seem to
> want to boot.

You may need to recheck your BIOS boot order settings.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"John Meers" <John@meers.org.uk> wrote in message
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>I have a retail Vista Ultimate Upgrade so have both 32 and 64 bit DVD's. I
>run 32 but my processors can support 64.
>
> John Meers
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uX4Zat9wIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> The 32 and 64 bit versions are not on the same disk, they are on separate
>> ones. What is on the same disk is all the "flavors" of Vista, ie: Home
>> Basic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate (Starter and Enterprise are
>> not). The Product Key determines which of these can be installed. The
>> activation code is what is generated by a combination of the Product Key
>> and a hardware hash derived from the system. Your Product Key is valid
>> for either a 32-bit *or* a 64-bit installation, but not both at the same
>> time, even if you are dual booting and only using one at a time. For a
>> 64-bit installation, you will need to locate 64-bit OEM media. Product
>> Keys are not interchangeable between retail and OEM media, you must use
>> the correct type. A retail Vista Ultimate package would normally contain
>> both media types, OEM ones frequently do not.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:a69e912067363b5f0bb297ba4fe81a8f@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>
>>> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but are
>>> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that distinguishes
>>> them is the Activation code.
>>>
>>> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
>>> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
>>>
>>> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
>>> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
>>> gig on it, so should partition easily.
>>>
>>> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> wysiwyg
>>
>
 
Apologies if people felt my post was off-topic. It seemed to me a
reasonable addition to a thread of '64bit and 32bit'
John Meers

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB86B967-4783-41B3-AA55-CA9DACB6FADE@microsoft.com...
> Do NOT tack your question onto another poster's problem!
> Start your own thread!
> What you are doing is totally ignorant!
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "John Meers" wrote:
>
>> I have a retail Vista Ultimate Upgrade so have both 32 and 64 bit DVD's.
>> I
>> run 32 but my processors can support 64.
>> Firstly is there any advantage in using 64 bit
>> Secondly could I install the 64 bit as I was upgrading from 32 bit XP
>> and Thirdly, if it is OK, how do I do it, the 64 bit disc does not seem
>> to
>> want to boot.
>>
>> John Meers
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uX4Zat9wIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > The 32 and 64 bit versions are not on the same disk, they are on
>> > separate
>> > ones. What is on the same disk is all the "flavors" of Vista, ie: Home
>> > Basic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate (Starter and Enterprise are
>> > not). The Product Key determines which of these can be installed. The
>> > activation code is what is generated by a combination of the Product
>> > Key
>> > and a hardware hash derived from the system. Your Product Key is valid
>> > for
>> > either a 32-bit *or* a 64-bit installation, but not both at the same
>> > time,
>> > even if you are dual booting and only using one at a time. For a 64-bit
>> > installation, you will need to locate 64-bit OEM media. Product Keys
>> > are
>> > not interchangeable between retail and OEM media, you must use the
>> > correct
>> > type. A retail Vista Ultimate package would normally contain both media
>> > types, OEM ones frequently do not.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best of Luck,
>> >
>> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > "wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> > news:a69e912067363b5f0bb297ba4fe81a8f@nntp-gateway.com...
>> >>
>> >> I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but
>> >> are
>> >> both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that
>> >> distinguishes
>> >> them is the Activation code.
>> >>
>> >> If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to be
>> >> the full disk, we are talking OEM.
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium 64
>> >> bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about 10
>> >> gig on it, so should partition easily.
>> >>
>> >> Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> wysiwyg
>> >
>>
 
Pablo3775735 Wrote:
> With OEM what you see is what you have. You have to buy 64bit if you
> want
> it.
>
> "wysiwyg" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:a69e912067363b5f0bb297ba4fe81a8f@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > I have a disk with Ultimate 32 bit, now correct me if I'm wrong but
> are
> > both 32 bit and 64 bit on the disk and the only thing that
> distinguishes
> > them is the Activation code.
> >
> > If so can just the Activation code be purchased or would it have to
> be
> > the full disk, we are talking OEM.
> >
> > I'm looking to triple boot, I already am dual booting with Premium
> 64
> > bit and Ultimate 32 bit, I have a second 320gb HDD with only about
> 10
> > gig on it, so should partition easily.
> >
> > Information, ideas and thoughts appreciated.:)
> >
> >
> > --
> > wysiwyg

I have went through all this with Microsoft trying to upgrade from
Vista Ultimate 32bit to Vista Ultimate 64bit. Microsoft was no help at
all. I had purchased my notebook from Dell and told them that Microsoft
said because it was an OEM that I had to go to the maker of the
computer. Dell has very helpful! They sent me a FREE Vista Ultimat
64bit cd and I did not even have to pay the shipping! The only thing
was they would no longer service my OS because it was not the one that
came with the notebook.


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>
> I have went through all this with Microsoft trying to upgrade from
> Vista Ultimate 32bit to Vista Ultimate 64bit. Microsoft was no help at
> all.
>

It won't allow a move from 32 to 64 on same OS, I had to open my
Premium parition to custom install ULT 64.

This of course is using OEM.


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'The Windows Vista 64-bit upgrade from Windows Marketplace requires a
64-bit operating system.'
(http://robmensching.com/blog/archiv...rade-from-Windows-Marketplace-requires-a.aspx)


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It appears that your computer is able to handle Vista 64 bit! I perferr
a clean install because of Vista's ability to keep a copy of you
settings.
INSTALLING A 64-BIT VERSION OF VISTA ON COMPUTER THAT IS RUNNING A
32BIT VERSION OF WINDOWS VISTA.

1. You will need a Vista 64-bit DVD.
2. You can back up all the data and settings by using "Windows Easy
Transfer" that is available on the currently installed 32-bit version
of Vista.
(Like I said I perferr a clean install) When you backed up your data,
perferrable on a DVD.
3. Insert the 64-it version of Vista into your DVD drive, and then
restart the computer.
4. NOTE! You must start Vista Setup by starting the computer from the
Vista 64-bit DVD! The installation package will not run on a 32-bit
operating system.
5. When prompted during Vista setup, select CUSTOM as your installation
choice.
6. When the installation is complete you can restore the data from its
backup location.
Don't forget to do the program update on Vista 64-bit, such as SP1
because this will take care of a lot of the problems you may encounter.
If you need drivers which should be very few because 64-bit will run the
32 bit programs. Go first to your Computers web site and then to the
Vista web site and you will find the right drivers. Remember drivers
have to be Windows certified or they will not work. If you can't find
the right drivers at these two sites go to the web site of program or
hardware you are having trouble with and most likely they will have
them.
THE WORSE THING YOU CAN DO IS TRY AND DOWNLOAD THE UPGRADE AND INSTALL
IT! WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU HAVE TWO LAYERS OF VISTA! THAT WAS THE FIRST
THING I DID AND YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE PROBLEMS I HAD! I DON'T CARE
WHAT THEY SAY YOU WILL ONLY RUN INTO MORE PROBLEMS THAN YOU CAN FIX!


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