32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server

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Nicholas Malboeuf

after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even the
32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the
updates but it never helped any thing

any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
 
Hello,

which update did you install ?
32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still works,
except if your update is about the kernel maybe.

Is the operating system working as before?

--
Cordialement,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com


"Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
> the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed
> the updates but it never helped any thing
>
> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>
 
its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2 320GB
SATA300 Hard drives

now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web
sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
servers IP and it still cannot see any sites and 64bit explorer works fine,
and I can also connect
to the remote desktop still, every thing was working fine before the updates
and the reboot

our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you cant
connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web
hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP

the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they show
the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the error to
windows

this is what they report
____

Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting module
OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
_____

my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
crashing constantly it reports

______

Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
_______


I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use about
600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think that
is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im sure
this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i run
32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
news:uYdU6Aa4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> which update did you install ?
> 32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still
> works, except if your update is about the kernel maybe.
>
> Is the operating system working as before?
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>
>
> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
>> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
>> the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed
>> the updates but it never helped any thing
>>
>> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>>
>
 
Can you provide the updates your installed ?

Why having a 64 bits server while running only 32 bits software ?


--
Cordialement,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com


"Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eVLxi.70516$rX4.28479@pd7urf2no...
> its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
> Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
> Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2
> 320GB
> SATA300 Hard drives
>
> now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web
> sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
> servers IP and it still cannot see any sites and 64bit explorer works
> fine, and I can also connect
> to the remote desktop still, every thing was working fine before the
> updates and the reboot
>
> our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you cant
> connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web
> hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP
>
> the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they
> show
> the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the error
> to
> windows
>
> this is what they report
> ____
>
> Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting
> module
> OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> _____
>
> my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
> crashing constantly it reports
>
> ______
>
> Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
> subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
> _______
>
>
> I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use about
> 600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think
> that
> is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im
> sure
> this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i run
> 32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work
>
> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:uYdU6Aa4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> which update did you install ?
>> 32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still
>> works, except if your update is about the kernel maybe.
>>
>> Is the operating system working as before?
>>
>> --
>> Cordialement,
>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
>>> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
>>> the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed
>>> the updates but it never helped any thing
>>>
>>> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>>>
>>
>
>
 
the Apps are simply 32 bit apps

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
news:ObYHMHk4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Can you provide the updates your installed ?
>
> Why having a 64 bits server while running only 32 bits software ?
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>
>
> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eVLxi.70516$rX4.28479@pd7urf2no...
>> its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
>> Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
>> Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2
>> 320GB
>> SATA300 Hard drives
>>
>> now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any
>> web
>> sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
>> servers IP and it still cannot see any sites and 64bit explorer works
>> fine, and I can also connect
>> to the remote desktop still, every thing was working fine before the
>> updates and the reboot
>>
>> our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you
>> cant
>> connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web
>> hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP
>>
>> the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they
>> show
>> the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the error
>> to
>> windows
>>
>> this is what they report
>> ____
>>
>> Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting
>> module
>> OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>> _____
>>
>> my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
>> crashing constantly it reports
>>
>> ______
>>
>> Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
>> subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
>> _______
>>
>>
>> I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use
>> about
>> 600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think
>> that
>> is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im
>> sure
>> this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i
>> run
>> 32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work
>>
>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
>> news:uYdU6Aa4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> which update did you install ?
>>> 32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still
>>> works, except if your update is about the kernel maybe.
>>>
>>> Is the operating system working as before?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cordialement,
>>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
>>>> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even
>>>> the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I
>>>> removed the updates but it never helped any thing
>>>>
>>>> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
that's why i don't see real point to have a 64 bits OS to host 32 bits
software.
Do you have an heavy memory usage ? (like 4 applications eating 2G each)


--
Cordialement,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com


"Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lR_xi.71104$fJ5.56936@pd7urf1no...
> the Apps are simply 32 bit apps
>
> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:ObYHMHk4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Can you provide the updates your installed ?
>>
>> Why having a 64 bits server while running only 32 bits software ?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordialement,
>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eVLxi.70516$rX4.28479@pd7urf2no...
>>> its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
>>> Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
>>> Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2
>>> 320GB
>>> SATA300 Hard drives
>>>
>>> now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any
>>> web
>>> sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other
>>> servers IP and it still cannot see any sites and 64bit explorer works
>>> fine, and I can also connect
>>> to the remote desktop still, every thing was working fine before the
>>> updates and the reboot
>>>
>>> our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you
>>> cant
>>> connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web
>>> hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP
>>>
>>> the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they
>>> show
>>> the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the
>>> error to
>>> windows
>>>
>>> this is what they report
>>> ____
>>>
>>> Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting
>>> module
>>> OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.
>>>
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>> _____
>>>
>>> my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
>>> crashing constantly it reports
>>>
>>> ______
>>>
>>> Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
>>> subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
>>> _______
>>>
>>>
>>> I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use
>>> about
>>> 600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think
>>> that
>>> is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im
>>> sure
>>> this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i
>>> run
>>> 32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work
>>>
>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
>>> news:uYdU6Aa4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> which update did you install ?
>>>> 32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still
>>>> works, except if your update is about the kernel maybe.
>>>>
>>>> Is the operating system working as before?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cordialement,
>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
>>>>> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing,
>>>>> even the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I
>>>>> removed the updates but it never helped any thing
>>>>>
>>>>> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
 
massive, they are game servers, all our servers are quad core 2s with 4GB,
each CPU has a 32bit game exe (single threaded) locked to it, each uses
600+MB of ram

you cant run 32bit OS and use PAE as its too unstable and it crashed the
apps, so its no good to us due to 2GB limits for the OS and the each app,
then it also crosses memory locaions which just kills the server totally so
64bit is all you can use to run stable

that is untlill those updates, the updates are Aug 18th or older updates for
win2k3E 64bit
(last to earlier updates)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921503
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=925398
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=927891
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=935966
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938127
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=937143

so god knows what MS did to that poor server
I've had to shunt all my 64bit UK servers clients to the US in the mean time

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
news:eiusmVo4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> that's why i don't see real point to have a 64 bits OS to host 32 bits
> software.
> Do you have an heavy memory usage ? (like 4 applications eating 2G each)
>
>
> --
> Cordialement,
> Mathieu CHATEAU
> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>
>
> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lR_xi.71104$fJ5.56936@pd7urf1no...
>> the Apps are simply 32 bit apps
>>
>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
>> news:ObYHMHk4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Can you provide the updates your installed ?
>>>
>>> Why having a 64 bits server while running only 32 bits software ?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cordialement,
>>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eVLxi.70516$rX4.28479@pd7urf2no...
>>>> its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following
>>>> Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)
>>>> Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2
>>>> 320GB
>>>> SATA300 Hard drives
>>>>
>>>> now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any
>>>> web
>>>> sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our
>>>> other
>>>> servers IP and it still cannot see any sites and 64bit explorer works
>>>> fine, and I can also connect
>>>> to the remote desktop still, every thing was working fine before the
>>>> updates and the reboot
>>>>
>>>> our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you
>>>> cant
>>>> connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for
>>>> web
>>>> hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP
>>>>
>>>> the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they
>>>> show
>>>> the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the
>>>> error to
>>>> windows
>>>>
>>>> this is what they report
>>>> ____
>>>>
>>>> Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting
>>>> module
>>>> OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.
>>>>
>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>> _____
>>>>
>>>> my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is
>>>> crashing constantly it reports
>>>>
>>>> ______
>>>>
>>>> Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The
>>>> subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A
>>>> _______
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use
>>>> about
>>>> 600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think
>>>> that
>>>> is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im
>>>> sure
>>>> this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i
>>>> run
>>>> 32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work
>>>>
>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message
>>>> news:uYdU6Aa4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> which update did you install ?
>>>>> 32 bits software use the WOW64 on 64 bits to work. That should still
>>>>> works, except if your update is about the kernel maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the operating system working as before?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU
>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Nicholas Malboeuf" <rncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:RwCxi.68831$rX4.31704@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing,
>>>>>> even the 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I
>>>>>> removed the updates but it never helped any thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
 
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